| FTBL Updates on Alabama players that are entering the transfer portal...

[BamaFan334]

Alabama is in a sitting ducks situation right now. I'd make a Pearl Harbor analogy if I knew folks wouldn't take it the wrong way (there, I kinda did it anyway, without having to actually do it). But to quote the goat, "We just gotta survive the shitstorm." Saban was talking about Gus' play call script in the 1st quarter in auburn. I'm saying Bama has to survive and just get out of this 30 day window with as few substantial losses as possible.

It's money at this point. I understand wanting to come and play for Nick Saban. Outside of Kirby there is no other coach out there that can use NFL results as a selling point over any new coaching hire at Alabama. Norvell, Sarkesian, Kiffin, Lanning, any of them cannot use the NFL as a leg to stand on. It's purely money, and possibly stupidity.

 

[colbyjacks]

Is it going to be awkward for UGA fans when we win that September 28th matchup?

 

[cj6891]

I 5000% agree with this and currently one of those idiots. I am definitely rethinking my entire position here because it'll be car purchasing time for my four and these donations would allow me to pay cash for those vehicles. Cars for my kids or what we are seeing with college football???

This is where all of NIL has created a double edge sword. Was I willing to contribute for facility expansion/renovation? Yes! Did I want the players to have the very best, to give them the best opportunity to succeed? Yes! Am I now willing to take away from my family to instead ensure that a 18 year old college freshman has better than what my kids do? Hell no! However, that doesn't cause me to throw stones at the kid for getting what he can. I know we all bleed crimson and would likely have given one nut to run out of that tunnel. But, these kuds have a chance to gain life changing wealth while STILL playing college ball! I understand the emotion in statements like "stay for your team" or "you should do it for your school"! Well, I call bullshit on that! If my kid played at Alabama and was receiving a small NIL stipend but then was offered a couple million to go elsewhere, I'd tell him, you better go get that check! Think about Ty Prothro! One play ended his CAREER! How mich better off would he have been with a couple million in the bank?

I hate all of this as much as the next guy! I just don't blame the athletes for securing themselves financially. I also won't try and impart my moral values on them. If you want to blame someone, look to the fat guys with short ties that have fed at the trough for years! They had the opportunity to fix this decades ago. However, they were getting too fat and instead decided to wait until the courts broke it off in their ass!
I truly believe that the college football we were all brought up on is dead. It appears that maybe it wasn't as pure as I fooled myself into believing to begin with. RTR.

 

[cj6891]

I 5000% agree with this and currently one of those idiots. I am definitely rethinking my entire position here because it'll be car purchasing time for my four and these donations would allow me to pay cash for those vehicles. Cars for my kids or what we are seeing with college football???

This is where all of NIL has created a double edge sword. Was I willing to contribute for facility expansion/renovation? Yes! Did I want the players to have the very best, to give them the best opportunity to succeed? Yes! Am I now willing to take away from my family to instead ensure that a 18 year old college freshman has better than what my kids do? Hell no! However, that doesn't cause me to throw stones at the kid for getting what he can. I know we all bleed crimson and would likely have given one nut to run out of that tunnel. But, these kuds have a chance to gain life changing wealth while STILL playing college ball! I understand the emotion in statements like "stay for your team" or "you should do it for your school"! Well, I call bullshit on that! If my kid played at Alabama and was receiving a small NIL stipend but then was offered a couple million to go elsewhere, I'd tell him, you better go get that check! Think about Ty Prothro! One play ended his CAREER! How mich better off would he have been with a couple million in the bank?

I hate all of this as much as the next guy! I just don't blame the athletes for securing themselves financially. I also won't try and impart my moral values on them. If you want to blame someone, look to the fat guys with short ties that have fed at the trough for years! They had the opportunity to fix this decades ago. However, they were getting too fat and instead decided to wait until the courts broke it off in their ass!
I truly believe that the college football we were all brought up on is dead. It appears that maybe it wasn't as pure as I fooled myself into believing to begin with. RTR

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

It's money at this point. I understand wanting to come and play for Nick Saban. Outside of Kirby there is no other coach out there that can use NFL results as a selling point over any new coaching hire at Alabama. Norvell, Sarkesian, Kiffin, Lanning, any of them cannot use the NFL as a leg to stand on. It's purely money, and possibly stupidity.

You think that was the only other reason (not counting stupidity)?

You don't think that Jawja isn't, at the present, the most NFL ready team to get him prepared for the NFL? Kirby's defense is pretty much Saban's so he doen't have the learning curve as Wommack's? Plus having T-Rob there too?

Those aspects make a lot of sense to me. As much as I hate to admit as well as much as I hate to see him go.

 

[alabamajack]

This is where all of NIL has created a double edge sword. Was I willing to contribute for facility expansion/renovation? Yes! Did I want the players to have the very best, to give them the best opportunity to succeed? Yes! Am I now willing to take away from my family to instead ensure that a 18 year old college freshman has better than what my kids do? Hell no! However, that doesn't cause me to throw stones at the kid for getting what he can. I know we all bleed crimson and would likely have given one nut to run out of that tunnel. But, these kuds have a chance to gain life changing wealth while STILL playing college ball! I understand the emotion in statements like "stay for your team" or "you should do it for your school"! Well, I call bullshit on that! If my kid played at Alabama and was receiving a small NIL stipend but then was offered a couple million to go elsewhere, I'd tell him, you better go get that check! Think about Ty Prothro! One play ended his CAREER! How mich better off would he have been with a couple million in the bank?

I hate all of this as much as the next guy! I just don't blame the athletes for securing themselves financially. I also won't try and impart my moral values on them. If you want to blame someone, look to the fat guys with short ties that have fed at the trough for years! They had the opportunity to fix this decades ago. However, they were getting too fat and instead decided to wait until the courts broke it off in their ass!
I truly believe that the college football we were all brought up on is dead. It appears that maybe it wasn't as pure as I fooled myself into believing to begin with. RTR.

It is a two edged sword. Just talking about the players here. Heck yeah, get financially secure if you can, but you are going to see players who throw all their money on frivolous items and be broke at the end. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man but instead of spending all their money on jewelry and cars, maybe invest it in much better ways and think about the future.

 

[SnakeDoc]

Is it going to be awkward for UGA fans when we win that September 28th matchup?

Very.

 

[BamaFan334]

This is where all of NIL has created a double edge sword. Was I willing to contribute for facility expansion/renovation? Yes! Did I want the players to have the very best, to give them the best opportunity to succeed? Yes! Am I now willing to take away from my family to instead ensure that a 18 year old college freshman has better than what my kids do? Hell no! However, that doesn't cause me to throw stones at the kid for getting what he can. I know we all bleed crimson and would likely have given one nut to run out of that tunnel. But, these kuds have a chance to gain life changing wealth while STILL playing college ball! I understand the emotion in statements like "stay for your team" or "you should do it for your school"! Well, I call bullshit on that! If my kid played at Alabama and was receiving a small NIL stipend but then was offered a couple million to go elsewhere, I'd tell him, you better go get that check! Think about Ty Prothro! One play ended his CAREER! How mich better off would he have been with a couple million in the bank?

I hate all of this as much as the next guy! I just don't blame the athletes for securing themselves financially. I also won't try and impart my moral values on them. If you want to blame someone, look to the fat guys with short ties that have fed at the trough for years! They had the opportunity to fix this decades ago. However, they were getting too fat and instead decided to wait until the courts broke it off in their ass!
I truly believe that the college football we were all brought up on is dead. It appears that maybe it wasn't as pure as I fooled myself into believing to begin with. RTR.

There in lies the problem. "Go get that check" could ruin your future as much as getting injured. Let's face it, $2M after taxes, agents, and other fees isn't still $2M. You also could have hamstrung yourself into a terrible situation at an inferior institution because you chased dollar signs. What happens if say Bond goes to Texas chasing that money and Ewers has a down year and Bond looks worse, therefor his draft position sinks and he is forced to come back or transfer again? you also say "go after the money", but what about the money your school invested into your kid? you think the weight program, stipend, clothing, nutrition program, health program, medical program, tuition, room and board, all of that is free? Your spot on a roster that costed another kid a spot on a roster. You don't consider that an investment in your kid and you should create some loyalty to that? I'd question you raising your kid on chasing money rather than seeing out a plan. Saban says it all the time, "we want to set you up for success after you leave Alabama, not just while you're here". $2M will buy you a house and a car, but can you afford the upkeep and property taxes associated with it if you aren't prepared for a future without football since only 1% of the 1% make it?

 

[SnakeDoc]

It is a two edged sword. Just talking about the players here. Heck yeah, get financially secure if you can, but you are going to see players who throw all their money on frivolous items and be broke at the end. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man but instead of spending all their money on jewelry and cars, maybe invest it in much better ways and think about the future.

They can do that with their NFL money.

 

[BamaFan334]

You think that was the only other reason (not counting stupidity)?

You don't think that Jawja isn't, at the present, the most NFL ready team to get him prepared for the NFL? Kirby's defense is pretty much Saban's so he doen't have the learning curve as Wommack's? Plus having T-Rob there too?

Those aspects make a lot of sense to me. As much as I hate to admit as well as much as I hate to see him go.

Kirby was the only coach I admitted to in another post that could use the NFL line with some merit. That being said, I also noted Downs was going to make it to the NFL if he was at Alabama, Georgia, Rutgers, Washington State, or Baylor. It was the money, plain and simple.

 

[alabamajack]

They can do that with their NFL money.

If they are good enough. Don't know the exact odds, but it can't be high of someone outside the first round ever becoming wealthy

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

I deal in life insurance & retirement account planning. Whenever the topic of children beneficiaries (for 6 or 7+ figures) the conversation ALWAYS goes to trust planning & my attorney referrals.

To that point, who would expect a young adult male to make wise, sound decisions with huge volumes of money? Nobody...

Why would we think, in any way that now that players are getting paid with these huge sums that they are making WISE decisions? In fact, I am VERY comfortable estimating that 90% of them will NOT be millionaires any more by 30.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I deal in life insurance & retirement account planning. Whenever the topic of children beneficiaries (for 6 or 7+ figures) the conversation ALWAYS goes to trust planning & my attorney referrals.

To that point, who would expect a young adult male to make wise, sound decisions with huge volumes of money? Nobody...

Why would we think, in any way that now that players are getting paid with these huge sums that they are making WISE decisions? In fact, I am VERY comfortable estimating that 90% of them will NOT be millionaires any more by 30.

And many of them are being guided by people (handlers, "agents", etc.) that get a piece of these deals. When those cats are basically working on commission in cases like this, it doesn't take a deep thinker with an abundance of deductive reasoning to see that... maybe they aren't always looking out of the player's best long term interests.

 

[Slickmullet]

CKD gave a big hint last night about good recruiting.:

Still waiting…

 

[PurlJam]

And many of them are being guided by people (handlers, "agents", etc.) that get a piece of these deals. When those cats are basically working on commission in cases like this, it doesn't take a deep thinker with an abundance of deductive reasoning to see that... maybe they aren't always looking out of the player's best long term interests.

Now what makes you think that?

 

[bamafan9201]

And many of them are being guided by people (handlers, "agents", etc.) that get a piece of these deals. When those cats are basically working on commission in cases like this, it doesn't take a deep thinker with an abundance of deductive reasoning to see that... maybe they aren't always looking out of the player's best long term interests.

This is a great point, I've also started to deduce these twitter personalities like Hayes Fawcett and such make their living off transfers, recruiting decisions, flips and what not. I'm not saying he's pressuring guys to do something but I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's not egging them on a bit so he can get more clicks and generate revenue for himself. The system is completely broken in this current ERA and unless something is done it's not going to get better. We'll have to get into the new era and just do it better than the rest of them

 

[Slickmullet]

Don't overlook that DeBoer just hired 2 sitting HC's to the staff. There's much more to it for both of them (including $), but still...

Should’ve spent the money on Downs and Proctor.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

This is a great point, I've also started to deduce these twitter personalities like Hayes Fawcett and such make their living off transfers, recruiting decisions, flips and what not. I'm not saying he's pressuring guys to do something but I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's not egging them on a bit so he can get more clicks and generate revenue for himself. The system is completely broken in this current ERA and unless something is done it's not going to get better. We'll have to get into the new era and just do it better than the rest of them

Doesn't he work for one of the networks? I think there's some decent people* working those jobs on some of the team sites, but at their core, it's all about drama and clicks. Don't get me started on the player ranking systems. For all the hate PFF gets, and they deserve some of it, a lot of the same people throwing stones are ALL IN on 247/Rivals/On3, etc...


*there's also some real shitty ones.

 

[SnakeDoc]

Should’ve spent the money on Downs and Proctor.

Can't spend what you don't have.

 

[Slickmullet]

Can't spend what you don't have.

What’s up with the lack of NIL money I keep hearing?