🏈 The Good, The Bad and The Ugly vs. FSU

[bamatommy]

Good- The opening drive was a thing of beauty. 15 balanced plays. Leaned on the run game and let Simpson settle in, overcame a 3rd down penalty, and ran some nifty and effective red zone plays. At the time, I was feelin' good...

The RB's ran hard and for a young group, I thought they played well... was really impressed with Kevin Riley (a player I honestly wasn't too high on when he signed). They never really got the ground game going consistently again after that opening drive, but when they did run it, those guys made the most of what yardage was available. And, they held onto the football.

Germie Bernard had a great game... thank goodness for him. He's as steady and consistent as they come.

Talty hit a FG, yeah! And was on target for the 53 yarder at least...


Bad- Ryan Williams has got to catch the football better.

Lawson looks like he's at 80% speed at best and that is hurting the defense, a defense which doesn't need any help when it comes to self-inflicting wounds.

Felt like Grubb & Co. maybe got away from what was working well early, but the FSU defense certainly had a lot to do with that.

The OL showed too many cracks, too many breakdowns, especially when the run game evaporated and FSU could tee off. That led to Simpson getting very uncomfortable in the pocket, bringing his eyes down too soon at times. Other times, he held the ball too long, which led to rushed and off target throws. He just looked like he was in a blender back there... hindsight being what it is, that was a tough game and tough environment to make a 1st career start. He will learn from it though. And he did show some toughness.


Ugly- As nice as the opening drive was for the offense, the defense was equally as disappointing on FSU's first possession (and most thereafter). Really thought they'd come out and set the tone. Instead, the DL got eaten alive which led to the DB's getting burned up. Later, the ILB's were out of position and getting gashed by QB runs.

Just like last year, the defense can't get off the field clean after the Bama offense puts it in for 6. Overall, a really bad day for them in pretty much every possible way.

[whistle blows] Alabama is flagged for an undisciplined penalty

DeBoer is now 4-4 in games where Bama was at least a 14 point favorite.


Random Thoughts- I'm thankful Lee Roy Jordan didn't have to witness that.

I can't stand Gus, but I'll give him credit. When Bama is the opposing team, he brings his best gameplans. I saw enough of his auburn (and UCF on their midweek) games to know that he isn't normally that good. But for whatever reason, he has Bama's number... and I hate it. On a related note, I don't know how they'll finish things out, but FSU is definitely a better team than they were last year. Bama should have handled them, but they are closer to 2023 FSU than 2024 FSU. That team was night and day different from last season.

That game had a 2000 at UCLA feel to it. We score quick, feel good about ourselves, and then the shit gets real and eventually hits the fan. I was at that game in 2000... I'm glad I wasn't at this one today.

There is no doubt in my mind at this point that in spring and fall camp, the Bama OL going up against the Bama DL, does no favors for the OL. I believe it provides a false sense of success... not just for the players, but for the staff, and casual observers. I say this, because for the second year in a row, the reports, some of which I've even gotten first hand, don't match the results on the field when the season begins.

I think it was @Krimson who tried to warn us that Wommack was fool's gold when he was hired. I pushed back on that idea at that time. I'm not ready to fold and cash out on him yet, but I need to see a better product considering some of the athletes he's got to work with. Time and patience is starting to run real short.

Nothing stings as bad as the truth and at the time, most of us thought it was a dumb comment to make, but Castellanos was indeed right. The fear of Alabama is officially gone. History would emphatically tell us that one day, the fear will return. But who knows when. I'm greedy and I enjoy it, so hopefully sooner, than later.

Lastly, I feel like an absolute loser for how I built up this team in recent weeks. Yes there were lingering questions, but I was sure things had been fixed. I had them pegged as a 1 or 2 loss regular season team, and they got big boy'd by FSU right out of the gate. On the flipside, I'm not sure anyone had this pegged whole thing pegged more than @mando (in terms of serious posters), with his cautious, somewhat skeptical, wait and see approach.. I'd add @Kirk Van de Graaff to that very short list of Bama prophets as well, but those are from conversations off the board.

Very well said Brandon! I am not impressed with our head coach, DC, DL coach or OL coach.

 

[bamatommy]

Hell, the punter got us our only turnover.

What did he do? I missed the game because I was traveling back from Detroit to Birmingham.

 

[bamatommy]

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First opening season loss since I was in school down there

 

[bamatommy]

100%!

Why in the WORLD wasn't Milroe benched vs Michigan? He played the worst game of his Bama career!

 

[Slickmullet]

The Good: Germi Bernard
The Bad: Ty Simpson (stats look ok but his decision making sucks, no command of the offense, 6-6 team with him running the show)
The Ugly: Zero run game, Ryan Williams' hands (hope he is ok from a health standpoint). Refs, playing 97 players on defense leading to explosive plays for FSU. This genuinely could be a 6-6 team.

Seriously, why do we not just have starters on defense? They rotated the entire defensive roster in. Why are we rotating in multiple freshmen in the 1st quarter directly leading to a score?

Ryan Williams is so unreliable should he even be on the field at this point?

 

[BamaFan334]

What did he do? I missed the game because I was traveling back from Detroit to Birmingham.

He just punted the ball high and when it came down it was at an angle back towards the line of scrimmage where the returned booted it and we recovered.

 

[Slickmullet]

He will be fired if this doesn't get MUCH BETTER this year and next.

66 million dollar buy-out. Were stuck with him

 

[64Tide]

Gentleman, we have a high school QB. It’s not going to just go away. Under pressure, he’s Molly Potts. He looks scared instead of confident. Couldn’t get is in right play as play clock ran down, led to false start, people out position etc.
Most glaring, trying to throw ball awsy in the grasp- completed pass to #72. Also, could have run for first down but chose to bounce a pass to R Williams, who has disappeared. Without #5, game over by half. We are not even mid tier SEC.

 

[Secondand26]

Gentleman, we have a high school QB. It’s not going to just go away. Under pressure, he’s Molly Potts. He looks scared instead of confident. Couldn’t get is in right play as play clock ran down, led to false start, people out position etc.
Most glaring, trying to throw ball awsy in the grasp- completed pass to #72. Also, could have run for first down but chose to bounce a pass to R Williams, who has disappeared. Without #5, game over by half. We are not even mid tier SEC.

I truly believe that you are looking on the wrong side of the ball. The blame doesn't lie on the 1st-start QB. The blame lies on the gimmicky-Defensive Coordinator & ultimately, the head coach.
A lack of fundamentals in technique, and an overall lack of discipline are the main things that jump out to me.
I saw zero repercussions to either player that committed personal fouls.
Smoke & mirrors go away when it gets dark or the wind blows. A change needs to occur on Defense especially. After 14-15 games I'm tired of seeing the same old shit on defense. When you rely on "scheme" it eventually gets figured out and you end up getting punked.
Saying this leads me to my biggest concern. If I see this, then the coaches have seen it for a while. If they've seen it for a while, then they must be accepting it. If they accept it, then to hell with them, it'll never get resolved.

 

[Rolltide24]

Gentleman, we have a high school QB. It’s not going to just go away. Under pressure, he’s Molly Potts. He looks scared instead of confident. Couldn’t get is in right play as play clock ran down, led to false start, people out position etc.
Most glaring, trying to throw ball awsy in the grasp- completed pass to #72. Also, could have run for first down but chose to bounce a pass to R Williams, who has disappeared. Without #5, game over by half. We are not even mid tier SEC.

I read where he was 1-10 when he was pressured and actually threw it. I believe it was 1-10 for 5 yards. Not what you expect from a 4th year guy. He made some nice throws but also some poor ones.

On the Ryan Williams hit, it didn’t even look like he got hit, but maybe I missed it. It looked like Little whiffed and the other guy didn’t make contact anywhere near his head or neck. That was an odd one to see that he was hurt.

I’ve slept on the results of yesterday and have three overreactions for week 1.

1. Bama is a playoff team
2. Arch should be the Heisman front runner
3. The Barn will have a worse record than Bama

 

[94 Grad]

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, IT'S OFFICIAL, DeBoer is on the hotseat....

I think his buyout is 65+ million. Not sure it’s all that hot. Warming, yes… but not realistic to be replaced this year.

 

[64Tide]

Gentleman, we have a high school QB. It’s not going to just go away. Under pressure, he’s Molly Potts. He looks scared instead of confident. Couldn’t get is in right play as play clock ran down, led to false start, people out position etc.
Most glaring, trying to throw ball awsy in the grasp- completed pass to #72. Also, could have run for first down but chose to bounce a pass to R Williams, who has disappeared. Without #5, game over by half. We are not even mid tier SEC

I truly believe that you are looking on the wrong side of the ball. The blame doesn't lie on the 1st-start QB. The blame lies on the gimmicky-Defensive Coordinator & ultimately, the head coach.

Sir, I haven’t got to the defensive side yet…. I do not disagree. Not sure we have a defender that could start on another SEC team….horrible. 3rd and whatever, first and 10. If we do stop them, WWE takes over and gives them first down. Last year, vs Dores and Viles, undisciplined defenders ended our chance to pull game out with uncalled for penalties-personal fouls. The first rule of football…DO NOT BEST YOURSELF, at least it was back when real football was played.

 

[94 Grad]

Name 1 defensive player that had a good game. I can’t think of one.
We helped create creases by undisciplined Defensive line player. That’s coaching

Yup. We got beat in every aspect of the game… but not only beat, we looked like a midlevel high school team playing.

I can handle getting out played, but that performance had our starters looking like the 3rd stringers with zero prep playing. Shocking how undisciplined and lost they looked.

 

[Secondand26]

Gentleman, we have a high school QB. It’s not going to just go away. Under pressure, he’s Molly Potts. He looks scared instead of confident. Couldn’t get is in right play as play clock ran down, led to false start, people out position etc.
Most glaring, trying to throw ball awsy in the grasp- completed pass to #72. Also, could have run for first down but chose to bounce a pass to R Williams, who has disappeared. Without #5, game over by half. We are not even mid tier SEC

Sir, I haven’t got to the defensive side yet…. I do not disagree. Not sure we have a defender that could start on another SEC team….horrible. 3rd and whatever, first and 10. If we do stop them, WWE takes over and gives them first down. Last year, vs Dores and Viles, undisciplined defenders ended our chance to pull game out with uncalled for penalties-personal fouls. The first rule of football…DO NOT BEST YOURSELF, at least it was back when real football was played.

You speak the truth sir!

 

[MunchyOs]

That would be 2000 vs UCLA, after winning SEC championship the year before. 4-7 got DuBose fired.

We went 3-8 in 2000 and it was announced after the loss to Tennessee thar year that Dubose wouldn't be back

 

[Kamikazi18627]

After sleeping on it…..

1. We haven’t improved from last year. The offensive and defensive lines were awful.

2. Guess we know now Milroe wasn’t pulled for Simpson last year.

3. If line play and qb aren’t improved quickly, could be a long season. As for some that said I was crazy to worry about Auburn in November, how ya feeling now?

4. This thing could get turned around. Starts Saturday.

 

[Hardkore]

The only thing good about it was the first drive.

Anything after that...

 

[Kamikazi18627]

That would be 2000 vs UCLA, after winning SEC championship the year before. 4-7 got DuBose fired.

No. Sean was right.

The last time we lost an opener was in Bryant Denny Stadium in 2001 with Fran as the head coach. Lost 20-17 to UCLA. I was there unfortunately.


I remember specifically we ran a power I in the inside the 10 yard line and some dumbass in front of me said it was the wishbone. lol.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

We went 3-8 in 2000 and it was announced after the loss to Tennessee thar year that Dubose wouldn't be back

The lead up sure felt like the lead up to 2000...for some reason ..Couldn't put my finger on it... but did...
But still....do believe in this team...
Believe in Ty....sure made some mistakes...but we also went from having an offensive game plan to throwing the ball on near every play... thats on the D...

Got a good game coming up to get him in grove....
Hope 95K show up...get behind him... this season will only go asfar as Ty will take it...
And...KD has proven...he is not changing QBs....so...its Ty..make or break

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

If Bama is going to have to score every time they get the ball, then Ty might not be the answer. Maybe Tua and return and play his last year.

After the Wisconsin game we will have a pretty good idea about the QB. JMO but the fact Bama had to score just to match FSU was too much for us in game one. The HC task is to find and start the players that produce. Looking at that film from yesterday, he has one hell of a task to find 11.