🏈 The Good, The Bad and The Ugly vs. FSU

[EasyTider]

Here’s some UGLY for you

 

[Secondand26]

You can challenge me. That's fine.

On DL and coaching: All summer long and during fall camp, we've heard they've improved so much adn they're more aggressive on the line, but when the time came they regressed. I don't know if it's the coaching or losing keeley hurt us more than we thought, or it's both. I honestly do not know I do know this: DL is supposed to be better than what we saw and ain't no way the team is like this at all. I want to see more before I'm ready to throw the season away or not.

I think the team is in better place mentally and physically compared to last year, but we'll see how the players respond to this. That's what I'm more interested in right now than reading some ridiculous take on the teams from the fans on other sites. Go read SecRant and Tidefans site and then come back here and tell me what you saw.

I do think coaches are on their ass about fundamental but at the end of the day, the players has to execute on the field and they didn't.

Blame games:

75 percent on coaches and how they called the game. The opening drive was real good, so why they didn't stick to it and adjust a little instead of going away? Wommack didn't adjust fast enough.

20 percent is on players: They had the game plan: They didn't make efforts to tackle, being aggressive .

5 percent: FSU field. Players were slipping and not going fast. I think they were too tentative because of that.

I wasn’t challenging you ( when or if I do it will be very apparent). I legitimately wanted your thoughts because you seem to have some connections in Tuscaloosa.
What about my question made you think I was “challenging “ you?

Go read SecRant and Tidefans site and then come back here and tell me what you saw.

Not going to do that. I’m not interested in shit-stirrers and idiots.
Just like the “fire Deboer” crowd. Even if it needs to be done (don’t think it does) it’s not going to happen this year.

I was sincerely asking for your opinion.

 

[24and7]

I hope some of our NIL players have a "performance based Pay clause" in their contracts... After yesterday some of our big time players should take a big financial hit... especially Ryan Williams...

 

[Justneedme81]

I wasn’t challenging you ( when or if I do it will be very apparent). I legitimately wanted your thoughts because you seem to have some connections in Tuscaloosa.
What about my question made you think I was “challenging “ you?

I was making a general statement

 

[Secondand26]

I was making a general statement

Go back & read my edit - it may be more clear

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

‘81, these are not shots at you, but I’d like to know your thoughts/answers:
What is your opinion on the defensive line & especially the coaching?

DL has been an issue for a while. It starts with Roach. I've said before that when Saban brought him back on staff, he was put at DL coach, which is where he'd been at Ole Miss and other stops. Saban felt he would be a better LB coach and the intention was to move him there as soon as they could. That never happened however, and to this day, he's still at DL. But, he's not a very good (SEC level) DL coach and the development of his guys is not close to where it should be. Along with that, UA has had issues in recent years getting top DL... talking about guys like Peter Woods and players at/near his level. Other schools recruit against Bama and hammer the "development" angle which has been a thorn in UA's recruiting side (some also overpay for them). Lastly, some of the players Bama does have are not necessarily physically built for the schemes Bama sometimes runs... they are just undersized and overmatched.

Is this a disciplined team & do you think (or know because you seem to be dialed in) there are any repercussions to the players for the STUPID PF penalties?

A week ago I would have said YES, though I did warn a couple weeks back that penalties were still an issue during fall camp practices and scrimmages. What I didn't expect this year was the dumb penalties... personal foul type flags and such. Yesterday made me question how disciplined this team really is. If they didn't change their behavior in other ways from last year, would the overall team discipline be any different? I don't know yet, but it will reveal itself soon enough.

If a player gets out of line like Moore did last year at Vandy then I know they make them do some stuff as a punishment. I'd imagine it's a case by case basis. If a guy gets a flagged because he hits a runner who it 1/2 step out of bounds, I doubt the staff is going to do much other than point it out in film review and hope they avoid it in the future.

Does the team practice fundamentals like tackling?

They do tackling drills during position stations and stuff, but it's a lot of tackling dummies or thudding. There's not a lot of Oklahoma drills going on these days, but that's anywhere.

Do you think the coaches make any effective adjustments (especially on the defensive side)?

Can they? Yes. And they are going to have to or teams will rush for 225+ a game against them and move the chains at will.

 

[Rolltide24]

Looks like he was 3 of 14 for 68 yards.

I was going off an ESPN article so it could have been incorrect. Said 1-10 for 30 yards, that one pass on the next to last drive.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I want changes made on OL asap. It's not working. Same for DL. Those are two i want to see changes on that.

I just want the nasty attitude to come back. I just don't know if the team took FSU for granted, like they did with Vandy and Oklahoma. that mindset has to go. So maybe its a good thing that we'll be facing pressure all season long, and it might be enough to get the guys to say " We can't fuck around no more. "

A stroke of bad luck that Grubb and Huff were cherry picked by McDonald in Seattle, then discarded after just 1 season. Will be interesting to see if DeBoer reaches back out to Huff (with the Rams now as a TE coach) if this year's OL doesn't play to their potential. But of those guys never go to Seattle, I think in some ways, Bama is better off right now, especially offensively.

 

[TerryP]

* @Brandon Van de Graaff @TerryP - please add what you are hearing

It's Sunday. I won't "hear" anything until tomorrow. I don't communicate with folks during the weekends; even in the off-season.

I'm about half-way through the first quarter right now. (Events had me listening yesterday versus watching so I didn't get a lot from the CTSN group.) I'm planning on watching the game today at three.

I haven't read anything here, nor elsewhere, about the game other than a few things I've caught settling the book, pick-'em, etc.

I'll say this on the little I've seen. I find "it was a 2-10 team" intellectually dishonest. There's a reason I didn't refer to them that way. A reason I kept pointing to the number of transfers. They sure "gelled" more quickly than I expected.

 

[Secondand26]

DL has been an issue for a while. It starts with Roach. I've said before that when Saban brought him back on staff, he was put at DL coach, which is where he'd been at Ole Miss and other stops. Saban felt he would be a better LB coach and the intention was to move him there as soon as they could. That never happened however, and to this day, he's still at DL. But, he's not a very good (SEC level) DL coach and the development of his guys is not close to where it should be. Along with that, UA has had issues in recent years getting top DL... talking about guys like Peter Woods and players at/near his level. Other schools recruit against Bama and hammer the "development" angle which has been a thorn in UA's recruiting side (some also overpay for them). Lastly, some of the players Bama does have are not necessarily physically built for the schemes Bama sometimes runs... they are just undersized and overmatched.




A week ago I would have said YES, though I did warn a couple weeks back that penalties were still an issue during fall camp practices and scrimmages. What I didn't expect this year was the dumb penalties... personal foul type flags and such. Yesterday made me question how disciplined this team really is. If they didn't change their behavior in other ways from last year, would the overall team discipline be any different? I don't know yet, but it will reveal itself soon enough.

If a player gets out of line like Moore did last year at Vandy then I know they make them do some stuff as a punishment. I'd imagine it's a case by case basis. If a guy gets a flagged because he hits a runner who it 1/2 step out of bounds, I doubt the staff is going to do much other than point it out in film review and hope they avoid it in the future.




They do tackling drills during position stations and stuff, but it's a lot of tackling dummies or thudding. There's not a lot of Oklahoma drills going on these days, but that's anywhere.



Can they? Yes. And they are going to have to or teams will rush for 225+ a game against them and move the chains at will.

Thank you sir. Mostly ESPN ( I know I know, their game production sucks!) just showed CKD on the sidelines with tight shots. I couldn’t see the reactions on the sidelines

 

[Secondand26]

It's Sunday. I won't "hear" anything until tomorrow. I don't communicate with folks during the weekends; even in the off-season.

I'm about half-way through the first quarter right now. (Events had me listening yesterday versus watching so I didn't get a lot from the CTSN group.) I'm planning on watching the game today at three.

I haven't read anything here, nor elsewhere, about the game other than a few things I've caught settling the book, pick-'em, etc.

I'll say this on the little I've seen. I find "it was a 2-10 team" intellectually dishonest. There's a reason I didn't refer to them that way. A reason I kept pointing to the number of transfers. They sure "gelled" more quickly than I expected.

I'm planning on watching the game today at three.
Get some Pepto, you are going to be sick!
I’m mostly pissed about the lack of effort/disipline.
Also, I don’t have the vocabulary to express how much I’ve come to HATE this defensive system!

 

[Krimson]

Also, I don’t have the vocabulary to express how much I’ve come to HATE this defensive system!

That's why I have no faith in D getting better. Go back and watch South vs a running qb, same issues. His D is like a Malzahn O in gimmicks but Womack can't seem to make the right calls as often as Malzahn. Imo you're going to see a lot of the same thing every time they face a mobile qb, he didn't let me down in that opinion last year and I don't think he's going to change this year.

 

[TerryP]

I'm planning on watching the game today at three.

VA Tech vs UofSC.

 

[24and7]

Is it too late to bring Verne and Gary back to calling Televised Alabama games?... I would take them in a heartbeat over Joe Tessatore... I like him in boxing, UFC and other games... But damn he sure rubbed salt into the wounds yesterday..

 

[Secondand26]

VA Tech vs UofSC.

Gotcha- thought you were talking about a re-watch of the debacle

 

[TerryP]

Gotcha- thought you were talking about a re-watch of the debacle

I'm through the first quarter on that one. I mentioned earlier I wasn't able to watch; only listen to CTSN. (Raining, neighbor had his water heater burst for some ungodly reason, which left him saving stuff in his garage while I'm trying to find the main water valve: grown over.)

I'll watch it throughout the day and morning...

 

[Justneedme81]

Good:

 

[Rolltide24]

Is it too late to bring Verne and Gary back to calling Televised Alabama games?... I would take them in a heartbeat over Joe Tessatore... I like him in boxing, UFC and other games... But damn he sure rubbed salt into the wounds yesterday..

Nobody mentioned Tessatore’s new business casual look at a “Good”?! With his top 4 buttons unbuttoned and gold necklace?

 

[Slickmullet]

Here’s some UGLY for you

That’s absolutely pathetic.

 

[24and7]

Nobody mentioned Tessatore’s new business casual look at a “Good”?! With his top 4 buttons unbuttoned and gold necklace?

COCAINE JOE