šŸˆ The Good, The Bad and The Ugly vs. LSU

Secondand26 said:
See, you are doing the SAME THING that you accuseā€™81 of. When you say shit like the quote in bold, your argument loses credibility. The turnovers were not because they are a bad team- a lot of the time the ball was on the ground as a direct result of the actions of the defense.
** Iā€™m not calling you out. Just saying everyone could lay off simple statements like never,ever, best, worst, etcā€¦
ā€œWe have no pass rush ā€œ - watch the game again. Got pressure several times with only three.
I know you &ā€™81 have a history of bitching, so maybe that entered into it?
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Green-Hill had an amazing punch out thay was pure and really assisted a defense that was put into multiple bad situations by the offense. The other two when you look back were rookie mistakes where the ball carrier had to ball like Reggie Bush used to carry the ball back in the day, low and away from his body.

And LSU played like a not so good team offensively last night. Look at all the WIDE open dropped passes right on them and look at their quarterback sliding before the first down when he had more room and the false start right after it resulting in a punt.

The defense on the surface looked great. But they consistently give up third and long. Our linebackers drop into a spot and do not move. Our DB's do not put their foot into the ground and drive on the ball. I watched Red Morgan on two occasions sit there thinking he was getting an interception only for the receiver to keep driving out of his break right in front of him for the reception. Another third and long we had FOUR guys playing zone and within three yards of the receiver and just so happen to leave the passing line open for LSU to complete a 3rd and 12 I believe it was.

Getting pressure is a whole other deal. Yes, we finally got pressure late in the game. Pierre had a nice play mid-way through the game, but the rest of the pressure came against a young quarterback holding the ball too long just like Ty and missing open receivers. #14 was wide open across the middle in the endzone for them where one of us could have made the throw, but their quarterback never left his first read while he rolled to the sideline and hurt himself. Is that enough for you to know I'm not being too general about it all?

I'm not saying we are awful, I'm simply saying a Texas A&M, Indiana, and Ohio Staye with decent quarterbacks and skill guys will not miss on all of these mistakes we make and us survive. It's ok to say we need to improve. If you or anyone else go back and read what I say, I always question our defensive performance and admit it almost can't be explained. We give up so little points, but yet against Missouri, South Carolina, LSU, Vanderbilt, and Tennessee the games were always still in question and concern from everyone late into each of those games. Even the Georgia game was closer than it should have been and started wondering if we could keep holding up. How many here including @Justneedme81 talked about this game not being close or concerning? I can tell you the feel in the stadium was not good last night. Probably the first Alabama game I've ever been to and was just bored waiting on something good to happen and the overall pace of the game was not fun. I could keep going on, but this was not a #4 team to me and we did not play as if so many expected. Kind of tired of hearing "Alabama gets everyone's best shot". Well no kidding, so does Georgia, Ohio State, and all other high ranking programs. It's not an excuse to me. We very well could go on to win it all. I am proud of where this defense has come from the Florida State game and if you look at all my Good, Bad, and Ugly's I make note of this defense and call out who has played well and who hasn't. I support them all. And guess what, I was ridiculed for how upset I was for Domani Jackson, and now his ass is riding the bench. All I heard was "he's a high NFL pick", "he's not going anywhere", "why the hate for Jackson", and now Dijon Lee is kesrning and performing extremely well. That deflection in the endzone last night was text book and right where I was sitting and just looked great. He breaks down and makes tackles and is going to continue to grow and perform. Told him parents that after the Tennessee gane when I met them. It's not all venom from me, just an honest approach to it all. We have a ton of room to approve and our middle backers struggle with gap responsibilities and we get washed. Sabb is struggling, but luckily Hubbard bails a lot of these guys out after a slow start. He called himself out and has answered the bell ten fold. Keenan has been solid and really holds the line together. Green-Hill has been terrific. Jefferson has been great at times, but slow at times, but overall good. As I said, lots of room to grow with everything still in front of us. I'll leave this alone as I'm sure everyone is wanting me to shut up at this point.
 
Bammerboy321 said:
Why is Daniel Hill not getting more touches? Jam Miller needs to be the 3rd down back on passing downs. Hill has been more productive and pushes the pile.
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I have questioned this same thing. Miller is good, but his dancing at the line of scrimmage kills him when the line gives no time to hit the hole. Hill hits the hole hard and fast and it shows with his success. Jump cuts are tough when the line isn't holding up and defenses continue to scrape hard and fast.
 
BamaFan334 said:
Green-Hill had an amazing punch out thay was pure and really assisted a defense that was put into multiple bad situations by the offense. The other two when you look back were rookie mistakes where the ball carrier had to ball like Reggie Bush used to carry the ball back in the day, low and away from his body.

And LSU played like a not so good team offensively last night. Look at all the WIDE open dropped passes right on them and look at their quarterback sliding before the first down when he had more room and the false start right after it resulting in a punt.

The defense on the surface looked great. But they consistently give up third and long. Our linebackers drop into a spot and do not move. Our DB's do not put their foot into the ground and drive on the ball. I watched Red Morgan on two occasions sit there thinking he was getting an interception only for the receiver to keep driving out of his break right in front of him for the reception. Another third and long we had FOUR guys playing zone and within three yards of the receiver and just so happen to leave the passing line open for LSU to complete a 3rd and 12 I believe it was.

Getting pressure is a whole other deal. Yes, we finally got pressure late in the game. Pierre had a nice play mid-way through the game, but the rest of the pressure came against a young quarterback holding the ball too long just like Ty and missing open receivers. #14 was wide open across the middle in the endzone for them where one of us could have made the throw, but their quarterback never left his first read while he rolled to the sideline and hurt himself. Is that enough for you to know I'm not being too general about it all?

I'm not saying we are awful, I'm simply saying a Texas A&M, Indiana, and Ohio Staye with decent quarterbacks and skill guys will not miss on all of these mistakes we make and us survive. It's ok to say we need to improve. If you or anyone else go back and read what I say, I always question our defensive performance and admit it almost can't be explained. We give up so little points, but yet against Missouri, South Carolina, LSU, Vanderbilt, and Tennessee the games were always still in question and concern from everyone late into each of those games. Even the Georgia game was closer than it should have been and started wondering if we could keep holding up. How many here including @Justneedme81 talked about this game not being close or concerning? I can tell you the feel in the stadium was not good last night. Probably the first Alabama game I've ever been to and was just bored waiting on something good to happen and the overall pace of the game was not fun. I could keep going on, but this was not a #4 team to me and we did not play as if so many expected. Kind of tired of hearing "Alabama gets everyone's best shot". Well no kidding, so does Georgia, Ohio State, and all other high ranking programs. It's not an excuse to me. We very well could go on to win it all. I am proud of where this defense has come from the Florida State game and if you look at all my Good, Bad, and Ugly's I make note of this defense and call out who has played well and who hasn't. I support them all. And guess what, I was ridiculed for how upset I was for Domani Jackson, and now his ass is riding the bench. All I heard was "he's a high NFL pick", "he's not going anywhere", "why the hate for Jackson", and now Dijon Lee is kesrning and performing extremely well. That deflection in the endzone last night was text book and right where I was sitting and just looked great. He breaks down and makes tackles and is going to continue to grow and perform. Told him parents that after the Tennessee gane when I met them. It's not all venom from me, just an honest approach to it all. We have a ton of room to approve and our middle backers struggle with gap responsibilities and we get washed. Sabb is struggling, but luckily Hubbard bails a lot of these guys out after a slow start. He called himself out and has answered the bell ten fold. Keenan has been solid and really holds the line together. Green-Hill has been terrific. Jefferson has been great at times, but slow at times, but overall good. As I said, lots of room to grow with everything still in front of us. I'll leave this alone as I'm sure everyone is wanting me to shut up at this point.
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A lot of good points & I agree with several of them. A few things I didnā€™t know until this morning:
(This is according to an article on ESPN so take it fwiw)
1st time LSU was kept out of end zone since 2011 national championship game.
LSU had only given up 5 pass plays 30+ yards all season- Ty hit four for 30+
Thatā€™s not ā€œGod awful ā€œ as someone on here said.
Also a lot of references to elite Osu, Indiana, A&M on this board. How elite if they played Bamaā€™s schedule? Iā€™m sure they are good teams. Not sure based on primarily cupcake schedules that any of those are elite,
I promise you, no one on here watches the game with a more critical eye than myself.
And I tend to bitch a lot during the games.
This isnā€™t pointed at you. Itā€™s pointed at the people that come on here, make blanket statements & when they are proven wrong do not have the BALLS to admit they may have been incorrect. Example- Simpson was ā€œGod awful ā€œ . How bad are all the other QBs that have faced LSU if Simpson hit more big passes than the rest combined? Also, how many on here would have kissed Milroeā€™s ass if he had a passing game like last night?
I agree- we have a LOT to improve upon, but I never really felt the game was in danger last night.
 
Secondand26 said:
A lot of good points & I agree with several of them. A few things I didnā€™t know until this morning:
(This is according to an article on ESPN so take it fwiw)
1st time LSU was kept out of end zone since 2011 national championship game.
LSU had only given up 5 pass plays 30+ yards all season- Ty hit four for 30+
Thatā€™s not ā€œGod awful ā€œ as someone on here said.
Also a lot of references to elite Osu, Indiana, A&M on this board. How elite if they played Bamaā€™s schedule? Iā€™m sure they are good teams. Not sure based on primarily cupcake schedules that any of those are elite,
I promise you, no one on here watches the game with a more critical eye than myself.
And I tend to bitch a lot during the games.
This isnā€™t pointed at you. Itā€™s pointed at the people that come on here, make blanket statements & when they are proven wrong do not have the BALLS to admit they may have been incorrect. Example- Simpson was ā€œGod awful ā€œ . How bad are all the other QBs that have faced LSU if Simpson hit more big passes than the rest combined? Also, how many on here would have kissed Milroeā€™s ass if he had a passing game like last night?
I agree- we have a LOT to improve upon, but I never really felt the game was in danger last night.
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I think Grubb really did the entire team a disservice last night. The middle of the field was WIDE open all night and that's where we hit those big pass plays. I will say Ty did miss Meadows wide open for six and went to the underneath route to Williams I believe it was. The trickeration and all that was not on Ty and the offense, but Grubb. He's a great OC, but I can't help but think he has costed us a ton of blowouts by stalling with perplexing calls thay stall series. The screen and throw backs into a ton of traffic had me holding my breath.

If Ty gets the ball outside on a couple of throws last night we run away with that game. He crossed Bernard up on that wide open deep pass and then Horton as well.
 
Secondand26 said:
I promise you, no one on here watches the game with a more critical eye than myself.
And I tend to bitch a lot during the games.
This isnā€™t pointed at you. Itā€™s pointed at the people that come on here, make blanket statements & when they are proven wrong do not have the BALLS to admit they may have been incorrect. Example- Simpson was ā€œGod awful ā€œ . How bad are all the other QBs that have faced LSU if Simpson hit more big passes than the rest combined? Also, how many on here would have kissed Milroeā€™s ass if he had a passing game like last night?
I agree- we have a LOT to improve upon, but I never really felt the game was in danger last night.
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I call myself out a whole lot and admit that I'll exaggerate. I also didn't cast a "blank statement" as I watched the game. I simply gave my opinion. Ty Simpson was god awful last night.
 
Secondand26 said:
Also a lot of references to elite Osu, Indiana, A&M on this board. How elite if they played Bamaā€™s schedule? Iā€™m sure they are good teams. Not sure based on primarily cupcake schedules that any of those are elite,
I promise you, no one on here watches the game with a more critical eye than myself.
And I tend to bitch a lot during the games.
This isnā€™t pointed at you. Itā€™s pointed at the people that come on here, make blanket statements & when they are proven wrong do not have the BALLS to admit they may have been incorrect. Example- Simpson was ā€œGod awful ā€œ . How bad are all the other QBs that have faced LSU if Simpson hit more big passes than the rest combined? Also, how many on here would have kissed Milroeā€™s ass if he had a passing game like last night?
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Based on schedule played, imo, aTm is the best team in the country. As far as ass kissin'...never wondered what shit taste like and ain't kissin' nobody's ass to find out. :p :laugh:
 
Bammerboy321 said:
I call myself out a whole lot and admit that I'll exaggerate. I also didn't cast a "blank statement" as I watched the game. I simply gave my opinion. Ty Simpson was god awful last night.
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I am kinda in there some....ok... i watched TY. The drive at end of first half. Was beautiful...when he is on. Hes ON....gotta stop the drops.... throws him off some..
Couple misses. He under throws...the makes up...by...over throws...kinda natural...

But...really not "God awful...". Just not his sharpest moment....
And game had no rhythm...i thought...offense for sure....but thats for lack of running game maybe...
Maybe those infuriating 3+ minute commercials...or flashing lights...or blaring sounds ( some may call it music...notme).

All that...plays made when they needed to be.. a big W against a wounded tiger...
But a W.
 
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Bammerboy321 said:
I call myself out a whole lot and admit that I'll exaggerate. I also didn't cast a "blank statement" as I watched the game. I simply gave my opinion. Ty Simpson was god awful last night.
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And with all respect. If you think his play was ā€œGod awfulā€, I think that thatā€™s a shitty opinion.
We can disagree. No problem.
I respect your fandom & I say a lot of similar stuff (I just donā€™t type it in real time lol)
Based on the information that Iā€™ve seen, LSU has a good pass defense & Ty did better than most. I my opinion the dude is a winner.
 
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50+yeartidefan said:
Yeah. Want a definition of "God awful". Go back n Watch Milroe vs Oklahoma n Michigan last year.
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That wasn't god awful. That was a complete insult to the QB position. His entire play after UGA (minus vs LSU and Mizzou) was a complete abomination. TY didn't have his best game yesterday but he's been very good this year, with very good games vs UGA, TN, and Mizzou where he made elite throws. I think he'll step it up vs OU and connect on more deep throws.
 
Bammerboy321 said:
That wasn't god awful. That was a complete insult to the QB position. His entire play after UGA (minus vs LSU and Mizzou) was a complete abomination. TY didn't have his best game yesterday but he's been very good this year, with very good games vs UGA, TN, and Mizzou where he made elite throws. I think he'll step it up vs OU and connect on more deep throws.
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The one to Bernard was 1 foot from being a TD.
Imagine last year if the QB would/could have incorporated all the different people in the passing game that Ty has. (Or more importantly the year before- could have been a natty in 2023!)
 

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