| CURRENT EVENTS The Presidential Race: The Debacle. Err, debate.

I know none of you are going to agree with this, but that’s ok. Tonight was great. Michelle had the best speech of the night and one of the best speeches in any convention.

@TerryP taking a que from tonight- Sorry for my part in division here, we believe in different things for this country and believe in different things that make this country great and better and that’s ok.
 
ElephantStomp said:
@TerryP taking a que from tonight- Sorry for my part in division here, we believe in different things for this country and believe in different things that make this country great and better and that’s ok.
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I was tied up most of the night, last night. I'm just now starting to watch the coverage.

I'll get back to you on this when I get some perspective on where you are coming from based on last night.
 
Early impression is we've circled back to 2020; "I rode a yellow school bus."

First AOC, then Michelle Obama with "middle class Kamala?" Give me a 'effin break!

If she grew up middle class, the Kennedy's and the Bush family? Both new to politics.

Setting policy aside for a minute along with the personalities of both candidates.

No matter the setting or situation, if I had someone say to me that I could be undefeated and not win every game? I'm walking out.
 
How can anyone find “Hope” from both MEN that spoke last night.. All they did was trash a man that hasn’t been in power…They shouldn’t even mention his name , if they were confident in what they say…All they did talk about was socialism… They are talking about soaking the rich.. If you fuck the rich, they will fuck you without lube…If they let them make their money, then we make our money…28%or beyond in corporate tax rates will destroy this countries industry..All the industries will do is use automation to replace workers, to ensure they stay in the black..
 
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24and7 said:
How can anyone find “Hope” from both MEN that spoke last night.. All they did was trash a man that hasn’t been in power…They shouldn’t even mention his name , if they were confident in what they say…All they did talk about was socialism… They are talking about soaking the rich.. If you fuck the rich, they will fuck you without lube…If they let them make their money, then we make our money…28%or beyond in corporate tax rates will destroy this countries industry..All the industries will do is use automation to replace workers, to ensure they stay in the black..
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Destruction is their plan. How can you view what’s happened the last 10-12 years and not come to that conclusion? They ignore our history and want it forgotten. The left wants all decisions made by the ultra rich. The right seeks power of the people, power to decide in the middle class. 2016-2020 saw more power to the middle class. They can’t let this happen again.
 
TerryP said:
Early impression is we've circled back to 2020; "I rode a yellow school bus."

First AOC, then Michelle Obama with "middle class Kamala?" Give me a 'effin break!

If she grew up middle class, the Kennedy's and the Bush family? Both new to politics.

Setting policy aside for a minute along with the personalities of both candidates.

No matter the setting or situation, if I had someone say to me that I could be undefeated and not win every game? I'm walking out.
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Kamala did grow up middle class
 
64Tide said:
Destruction is their plan. How can you view what’s happened the last 10-12 years and not come to that conclusion? They ignore our history and want it forgotten. The left wants all decisions made by the ultra rich. The right seeks power of the people, power to decide in the middle class. 2016-2020 saw more power to the middle class. They can’t let this happen again.
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With all due respect it’s not our side that wants to ignore our history, we’re not the ones afraid of white people looking bad (DeSantis), he has spent his entire political career wanting to change our history.

“The left wants all decisions made by the ultra rich”- that’s rich as hell. Since Reagan the right has believed in a trickle down economic idea.

“The right seeks power of the people”- is that why they fought so hard to make the 2020 election null and void with some bs election fraud shit? Is that why they’ve fought so hard to keep abortion off of ballots?

You can think your side is better for the country, but you have to come from a place of honesty.
 
24and7 said:
How can anyone find “Hope” from both MEN that spoke last night.. All they did was trash a man that hasn’t been in power…They shouldn’t even mention his name , if they were confident in what they say…All they did talk about was socialism… They are talking about soaking the rich.. If you fuck the rich, they will fuck you without lube…If they let them make their money, then we make our money…28%or beyond in corporate tax rates will destroy this countries industry..All the industries will do is use automation to replace workers, to ensure they stay in the black..
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Question- is the guy they mentioned running against their candidate for President? Also, did you and do you feel the same about your candidate mentioning Harris at every rally and their convention?
 
ElephantStomp said:
Question- is the guy they mentioned running against their candidate for President? Also, did you and do you feel the same about your candidate mentioning Harris at every rally and their convention?
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Harris is in power..Harris is mentioned because of the policy failures… Now I have said Trump needs to be more positive, and stick to policy…But some of the stuff they’re saying last night is short on collateral… the only thing they are offering is more of the same… and worse socialism..
 
ElephantStomp said:
With all due respect it’s not our side that wants to ignore our history, we’re not the ones afraid of white people looking bad (DeSantis), he has spent his entire political career wanting to change our history.

“The left wants all decisions made by the ultra rich”- that’s rich as hell. Since Reagan the right has believed in a trickle down economic idea.

“The right seeks power of the people”- is that why they fought so hard to make the 2020 election null and void with some bs election fraud shit? Is that why they’ve fought so hard to keep abortion off of ballots?

You can think your side is better for the country, but you have to come from a place of honesty.
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If you actually think that 2020 election was the will of the people, there is no hope for you.
 
24and7 said:
Harris is in power..Harris is mentioned because of the policy failures… Now I have said Trump needs to be more positive, and stick to policy…But some of the stuff they’re saying last night is short on collateral… the only thing they are offering is more of the same… and worse socialism..
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And that’s why Trump is mentioned. He’s running for the same job as Harris. You mention policy failures, but Trump doesn’t hardly mention her policies. The dude got jealous that she looked pretty on the Time cover
 

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