🏈 Tua's possessions

[252BAMA]

Doubt if any CFB QB has ever produced 14TDs with 20 possessions. Before now.

 

[sean]

touchdown on 70% of his drives.....yeah i'll take that

 

[mando]

Look at how quickly they are scoring. Not sure how this can be sustained but I will enjoy it while it last.

Roll Tide.

 

[T&B]

Team Tua with complete and total vindication. Tua looked the exact same last year every time he got an opportunity, and the numbers support that.

Why they waited until it should have been too late to make the switch will be a question I will forever be curious. Can't wait for the book.

 

[252BAMA]

Team Tua with complete and total vindication. Tua looked the exact same last year every time he got an opportunity, and the numbers support that.

Why they waited until it should have been too late to make the switch will be a question I will forever be curious. Can't wait for the book.

The barn would have been as totally unprepared for Tua as they were as totally prepared for Jalen.

 

[planomateo]

 

[Max]

Team Tua with complete and total vindication. Tua looked the exact same last year every time he got an opportunity, and the numbers support that.

Why they waited until it should have been too late to make the switch will be a question I will forever be curious. Can't wait for the book.

Oh my god. What is this, your e-victory lap? Hell, it's not even the second half and you're acting like Aubie's versus the Coonasses the last two years.

What so difficult to understand in the fact Tua wasn't ready for a good portion of the '17 season and really started catching in December?

This "Team Tua" thing is ridiculous. There's a team we support here and it's Bama. One individual is not bigger than the program unless you're Ohio State.

Truth bomb for you here: It's those who have said "Don't count Jalen out" that are sitting here this morning with complete and total vindication. All you Tua guys have been telling Jalen he needs to leave along notes that resemble "he's gone" with continuous evidence to the contrary.

 

[LeGarrette]

I remember seeing women walking around with Team Jacob vs Team Edward shirts. Team Tua seems equally GAY.

 

[TerryP]

Team Tua seems equally GAY.

To me, it seems "NASCAR'ish."

Here's a gut feeling. We're going to see those who are all about Tua and all against Jalen are going to start mini-rants about Jalen costing Tua the Heisman because they're sharing snaps.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Team Tua seems equally GAY.

To me, it seems "NASCAR'ish."

Here's a gut feeling. We're going to see those who are all about Tua and all against Jalen are going to start mini-rants about Jalen costing Tua the Heisman because they're sharing snaps.

I can see that. I remember Saban saying post-game that he only plays Hurts "with the best guys".

 

[TerryP]

I remember Saban saying post-game that he only plays Hurts "with the best guys".

A pretty telling statement in my opinion.

I've seen countless people talk of how this has been handled and the more we move on the more we're seeing how well it's being handled.

I can't say I've ever seen a football story that was more intriguing yet so filled with assinine opinions. I'm still dumbfounded at all the "he's going to transfer" comments all the while we're seeing clips, almost weekly, with him and the leadership council.

Scott Van Pelt mentioned on last nights SC/SVP that "common sense is seldom found in college football anymore." He's so right and it's magnified with the "Fire Taggert" and "Fire Kelly" crowds.

 

[TUSKtimes]

A pretty telling statement in my opinion.

I've seen countless people talk of how this has been handled and the more we move on the more we're seeing how well it's being handled.

I can't say I've ever seen a football story that was more intriguing yet so filled with assinine opinions. I'm still dumbfounded at all the "he's going to transfer" comments all the while we're seeing clips, almost weekly, with him and the leadership council.

Scott Van Pelt mentioned on last nights SC/SVP that "common sense is seldom found in college football anymore." He's so right and it's magnified with the "Fire Taggert" and "Fire Kelly" crowds.

Fans are fans. Bama hardly has the market cornered on sophistication. This tale of two QBs will get even more interesting as the competition meter goes up. Having them both in the stable and ready to play has been the best case scenario from the get-go. If anyone made me feel like it wasn't going to happen it was Jalen, family, and Saban's rhetoric and tone this summer. No way Saban read these tea leaves.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I remember Saban saying post-game that he only plays Hurts "with the best guys".

A pretty telling statement in my opinion.

I've seen countless people talk of how this has been handled and the more we move on the more we're seeing how well it's being handled.

I can't say I've ever seen a football story that was more intriguing yet so filled with assinine opinions. I'm still dumbfounded at all the "he's going to transfer" comments all the while we're seeing clips, almost weekly, with him and the leadership council.

Scott Van Pelt mentioned on last nights SC/SVP that "common sense is seldom found in college football anymore." He's so right and it's magnified with the "Fire Taggert" and "Fire Kelly" crowds.

I think people have always been excitable and short on common sense in college football. There just wasn't sports talk and the internet to broadcast the lunacy.

 

[TerryP]

If anyone made me feel like it wasn't going to happen it was Jalen, family, and Saban's rhetoric and tone this summer. No way Saban read these tea leaves.

Saban's rhetoric and tone this summer hasn't been any different than it was in the past--settled on the field. Yet, it wasn't good enough this season.

What I'm seeing is a long troll started by Matt Hayes and the free agent talk. Yet, we've known who Matt Hayes is for years--a decade plus is more likely. When has he ever stuck to reporting the story instead of taking the route he's chosen--being a part of making a story?

Jalen led you to believe what? That he didn't understand why Saban said what he did? When has Saban every responded to a hypothetical question in any manner that differs from how he handled that one?

I'm suspecting I'm about to see something along the lines of a "pro-Jalen" stance. Yet, all I have mentioned here shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. We've been living with it for over a decade.

I'm not suggesting Saban was reading tea leaves. I am stating that what we know of Saban and his preparedness should tell fans that he's had a plan. Now, those plans might not always end up the way he wanted it to but never-the-less don't you think it's a bit foolish to even think he didn't have a plan in mind when all of this started?

Here's what really intrigues me. How often have you seen, here, the statement, "Don't count Jalen out?" And yet, here we are.

 

[TerryP]

There just wasn't sports talk and the internet to broadcast the lunacy.

Tim, as you know I've been involved with sports message forums like this since the mid-90's. Yes, going back to where a forum was hosted the only way it could be, through AOL. That said, I believe I'm qualified to state the attitudes and actions have changed since their inception.

If we step back 15 years the only trolls we saw were from rival fans. Now, we're seeing the same from a fan of a school against said school and other like minded fans. Forums like the old Tidesports forum led to such behavior--yet, that forum still had a lot of entertaining moments--and it was only from a certain few. That crowd has grown and like you I believe it's due to the anonymity.

I remember a conversation back in the last 90's with Jess Nicholas when we both agreed that if we're going to state an opinion we'll do so under our real name. I'm still a fan of the idea of a sports message site that required the use of given names. It's been tried but the guys that started it didn't have enough cache to pull off a subscription site.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Jalen led you to believe what? That he didn't understand why Saban said what he did? When has Saban every responded to a hypothetical question in any manner that differs from how he handled that one?

It's not about what coach Saban did or didn't do. Your comments were a lot of my argument on the subject at the time. It's the perception of how Jalen was taking it. That narrative no one can control. Jalen left enough rhetoric out there that fans were convinced he would not settle for backup. Then when he spoke he voiced frustration that he wasn't allowed to get his narrative out in the media, whatever that was. Coach Saban was as curious as the rest of us.

I'm suspecting I'm about to see something along the lines of a "pro-Jalen" stance. Yet, all I have mentioned here shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. We've been living with it for over a decade.

From the media or the fans, or both? Perhaps what we are also seeing is the ability of coach Saban to get past the 4 game redshirt rule with Jalen.

I'm not suggesting Saban was reading tea leaves. I am stating that what we know of Saban and his preparedness should tell fans that he's had a plan. Now, those plans might not always end up the way he wanted it to but never-the-less don't you think it's a bit foolish to even think he didn't have a plan in mind when all of this started?

Bama fans don't get that coach Saban is the king of micro-analyzing and game planning? He had a plan for Mo Smith and Kendell Sheffield, but they weren't having any of it.

Here's what really intrigues me. How often have you seen, here, the statement, "Don't count Jalen out?" And yet, here we are.

Yes, as the starter. Aren't we way past that?

 

[TerryP]

Yes, as the starter. Aren't we way past that?

No. The statement about "don't count Jalen out" revolved around the criticisms we've all seen.

I was never been hung up on who the starter was going to be. It was simple to me--let the competition figure it out.

It's pretty clear to me we've still got fans caught up in this--hell, that John Doe fellow is still making videos with the intent to devalue what Jalen brings to the field.

Bama fans don't get that coach Saban is the king of micro-analyzing and game planning? He had a plan for Mo Smith and Kendell Sheffield, but they weren't having any of it.

Kendall was all about Kendall's dad being told Kendall wouldn't be given a starting job--he had to earn it. Mo was all about Mo's mom.

Yes, they are similar in some circumstances. But I don't find a lot of similarities in that there are extenuating details that make each story stand on its own.

From the media or the fans, or both? Perhaps what we are also seeing is the ability of coach Saban to get past the 4 game redshirt rule with Jalen.

I believe we're seeing the plan come to fruition that mirrors what we've seen Bama do in the past--this time it's just with two players taking snaps.

Your comments were a lot of my argument on the subject at the time. It's the perception of how Jalen was taking it. That narrative no one can control. Jalen left enough rhetoric out there that fans were convinced he would not settle for backup.

"The perception..." "That narrative..." Both things that were cautioned about following to deeply.

 

[TUSKtimes]

No. The statement about "don't count Jalen out" revolved around the criticisms we've all seen.

I was never been hung up on who the starter was going to be. It was simple to me--let the competition figure it out.

It's pretty clear to me we've still got fans caught up in this--hell, that John Doe fellow is still making videos with the intent to devalue what Jalen brings to the field.

He's an idiot, so he never got a second look from me. His brush he paints with is way too broad. But the only thing that will legally prove he is an idiot is when Jalen keeps doing what he is doing. Then we can have him committed.

Kendall was all about Kendall's dad being told Kendall wouldn't be given a starting job--he had to earn it. Mo was all about Mo's mom.

Yes, they are similar in some circumstances but I don't find a lot of similarities. There are extenuating details that make each story stand on its own.

Sure they are, and you obviously know why I put those two up there. Jalen's dad is an azz and not much of a head coach to ever send a message that any credible high school coach wouldn't except on their own team.

I believe we're seeing the plan come to fruition that mirrors what we've seen Bama do in the past--this time it's just with two players taking snaps.

All I can tell you, Terry, is that this fan will be happy and somewhat relieved to see Jalen line up at QB in the 5th game of the year. I don't like counting chickens.

"The perception..." "That narrative..." Both things that were cautioned about following to deeply.

But it's why I come to your place. My wife just won't listen.

 

[Tidestalker]

Team Tua seems equally GAY.

To me, it seems "NASCAR'ish."

Here's a gut feeling. We're going to see those who are all about Tua and all against Jalen are going to start mini-rants about Jalen costing Tua the Heisman because they're sharing snaps.

Emotions aside - Is that inaccurate?

 

[Tidestalker]

Here's what really intrigues me. How often have you seen, here, the statement, "Don't count Jalen out?" And yet, here we are.

Where are we? Jalen has yet to take a consequential snap.

Even the staunchest Jalen vindicators have to admit that his QB play has no impact on the outcome of each game... And likely won't barring an injury.

I'm one of the few people that fully expected a 2 QB system. However, I also thought Jalen would get those snaps with the game in doubt. As of now I don't see that happening... Tua is just too damn good.