| FTBL This was a thread about Mel Tucker getting fired, and sort of still is, but it's hijacked with Russell Brand's story as well

TerryP said:
A flawed stance could also be defined as blaming the man in a consensual relationship. Adultery is binary.
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No, because you aren't forced to commit adultery. If you are forced, it's not consensual.

I know your stance on marriage, but it still doesn't take away from the fact you've taken vows to be with one man/woman for life. Don't like it, file for a divorce, but anything during that relationship is adultery and it takes a decision to be made.
 
BamaFan334 said:
Harvey Weinstein was guilty, as was Jeffrey Epstein to make a comment on your Me Too comments. You're blaming a woman for the decisions a man made. This is where you are flawed in your stance beyond belief. If Mel said no and respected his wife, he wouldn't be here right now and even if she is exploiting him, she wouldn't have that opportunity without him stepping out on his wife. Life is about decisions, and if you make the wrong ones you can pay with your life. You keep belligerently talking about Saban and this football team and their decisions, but men that cheat all had choices, and they picked their path and have to live with it. End of story. Don't care how cool, nice philanthropic someone is, they have choices. Lionel Messi never touches female fans when taking pictures out of respect for his wife. I don't know him from Adam, but knowing a guy takes those steps and then looking at guys like Tucker, Freeze, Petrino, and others, you quickly learn these types of guys are slimeballs no matter how hard the scorned woman twists their balls.
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Bullshit!..No I am not belligerently talking about Saban and his football team!..There are deep issues with the team.. Too many sunshine pumpers get butt hurt for making a statements or an observation… this isn’t Tidefans ..Most post on here is someone’s opinion anyway…

The male in these cases are destroyed without any fairness by the media.. if a woman says it, it has to be true ?… Hope you never get falsely accused by deranged female…Most marriages these days, have cheating in them at some point.. Some are open relationships, but it is still cheating…That woman violated confidentiality agreement took the case to the press to cause the most damage…America had to watch ridiculous Supreme Court justice hearings on tv with lying women for days..They should be in prison now..This case is simple… Michigan State wants to fire him because they jumped the gun and give him an overly generous contract!… they won’t even investigate this woman that brought this case!.. she is apparently off-limits… I have basically been saying if the man is indeed innocent, then he needs to get aggressive and proactive in his defense… if he chooses to be passive, it’s on him..
 
ElephantStomp said:
He was offered a hearing and he’s this far has refused to participate in anything and has continually bad mouthed his employer.
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The point was when he was offered the hearing. Was it before, or after, he was fired?

I carry a deeply seeded bias towards people who break the bonds of marriage. I have no respect for either party based on that alone. But believe you me...there's not much difference, if any, in the administration at MSU.

I can't get over the decision to bring Dantonio back, when he was fired citing, among other things, his players committing sexual assault.
 
24and7 said:
I have defended Mel Tucker because of the ravenous “me too movements”… all it takes is a mere accusation to cancel a man’s life.. we have seen so-called victims, get up in front of congress and lie like hell (and even could not remember anything)…They should be in jail, but it was just “politics”.. never mind the fact that they wasted millions of taxpayers dollars with their charade… Mel Tucker may have been going through a midlife crisis, or just simply not in love with his wife.. He found it with that woman…it was good for a while…then went to shit… the man is full of regret mode, I’m sure… I honestly believe the woman didn’t have a case, because she broke confidentialities to put it in the press…That’s when the wolves came out… so I think Mel Tucker should get very aggressive and proactive with his defense, to ensure A Fair Trial…
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The “Me Too” movement also took down a lot of shitty, predatory dudes.

I don’t care about him stepping out on his wife (I’m not going to stand on some moral high ground or anything), but if he jerked his junk without her consent while on the phone with her that’s not consensual and not ok.

Mel Tucker better have a lot of evidence he’s hiding because she’s shown her evidence.
 
BamaFan334 said:
No, because you aren't forced to commit adultery. If you are forced, it's not consensual.

I know your stance on marriage, but it still doesn't take away from the fact you've taken vows to be with one man/woman for life. Don't like it, file for a divorce, but anything during that relationship is adultery and it takes a decision to be made.
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Where did the word "forced" enter the picture? They had their relationship for two years.
 
24and7 said:
Bullshit!..No I am not belligerently talking about Saban and his football team!..There are deep issues with the team.. Too many sunshine pumpers get butt hurt for making a statements or an observation… this isn’t Tidefans ..Most post on here is someone’s opinion anyway…
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Got banned, did ya? How long did it take for your first warning?
 
TerryP said:
The point was when he was offered the hearing. Was it before, or after, he was fired?

I carry a deeply seeded bias towards people who break the bonds of marriage. I have no respect for either party based on that alone. But believe you me...there's not much difference, if any, in the administration at MSU.

I can't get over the decision to bring Dantonio back, when he was fired citing, among other things, his players committing sexual assault.
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It was offered before, she went and provided her evidence and he chose not to show and started bath mouthing his employer.

I don’t share the same belief in marriage as most on here, stepping out is one thing, but if you do things without consent that’s a problem

Oh I’ve got zero respect for the school and Dantonio is a pos.
 
ElephantStomp said:
The “Me Too” movement also took down a lot of shitty, predatory dudes.

I don’t care about him stepping out on his wife (I’m not going to stand on some moral high ground or anything), but if he jerked his junk without her consent while on the phone with her that’s not consensual and not ok.

Mel Tucker better have a lot of evidence he’s hiding because she’s shown her evidence.
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Its a double edged sword… they dont wait for facts… just ask Russell Brand..They have already caused his demonitzing and canceling his shows and acts..He may be guilty but this is two days old..
 
24and7 said:
They are extreme pumpers on there… commies of bama football.. they ban just for facts they don’t like..at least you can talk and debate here..
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Eh, I post regular there and they had a meltdown thread on Jalen Milroe so it's not all sunshine. It's hard to get banned there unless you cuss, troll and call people out of their names.
 
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