| FTBL This was a thread about Mel Tucker getting fired, and sort of still is, but it's hijacked with Russell Brand's story as well

Again, I'm not talking harrassment allegations, rather a consensual relationship.

CEOs of McDonalds, Intel, NBCUniversal...
Two ABC news anchors within the last few months ... Amy Robach (sp) and her paramour.

Michigan State, ethical behaviour, and University standards...three things that don't seem to belong in the same thread.
 
agree, but that’s a handful of the hundreds that occur on a regular basis that’s kept out of the news for contractual reasons. Shareholders usually have a say in this type of stuff also. I personally think they should be held accountable for this type of stuff more than they are, if they can’t be honest with the people that are most important to them how are the going to treat people they really don’t give 2 flips about.
I only gave a couple, yes, and the exec departures have to be disclosed for publicly traded companies. The vast majority of them have had policies against this for years. Dalliances are far more widespread, of course.
 
This is about him being inappropriate with somebody that’s not his wife

Could be all bs, but could be all true
I can't speak for others, but What Mel did was wrong, but From my experience, and yes, I'm serious.... You never want to run into a woman who is willing to destroy your marriage just because you didn't get what you want.

I know a guy, I will not mention his name, position, or what town... He was married with 2 kids and He met a woman through a conference and they were friends at first. It turned into something significant to where he was paying for her home, her car, her shopping budgets, trips and etc. Everything fell apart when the woman got pregnant and she told him and he freaked out and started to cut her off on everything. She got pissed and blasted him on social media and even sent pics, video, texts to his wife and to his boss.

He lost his job and his marriage all in 1 week. Friends and church started to alienate him because of his "character."

Few months later, after the baby was born, He had the dna checked and it was confirmed that it was not his. He confronted her and she admitted that she did all of this on purpose to hurt him because he said he wouldn't leave his wife.

Last I've heard, he landed another job, is in counseling and he and his ex wife are working things out. What was the reason behind it?

80/20 relationship issue. His wife was 80 percent, she was giving 80 percent of everything and he had desire to chase 20 percent.. so he found the 20 percent in the other woman...
 
This is about him being inappropriate with somebody that’s not his wife
In my opinion that's enough to make a judgment about Mel, as a person. It's also enough to judge her.

A real stumbling point for anyone who looks at this critically is seeing Michigan State trying to establish itself on some type of moral high ground. Especially now where we have two consenting adults as compared to what MSU has it its history: rape, abuse, cover-ups, and the like.
Could be all bs, but could be all true
She appeared at MSU two years ago and she hasn't been back in any official capacity. We know how many calls they've had, when they were, and how long they were. (If you're me this naturally brings up the question how does Title IV have any bearing if all this happened after the fact?)

Something doesn't add up. But, let's follow official proceedings, right?

In this case, as an employee, he's allowed a grievance hearing. He's already been fired without said hearing. It's also specifically written in the bylaws of MSU that the parties are afforded confidentiality.

So, he didn't get his hearing before being fired. He wasn't afforded his right to confidentiality. Both of these acts were willingly committed by MSU.

Something doesn't add up.
 
In my opinion that's enough to make a judgment about Mel, as a person. It's also enough to judge her.

A real stumbling point for anyone who looks at this critically is seeing Michigan State trying to establish itself on some type of moral high ground. Especially now where we have two consenting adults as compared to what MSU has it its history: rape, abuse, cover-ups, and the like.

She appeared at MSU two years ago and she hasn't been back in any official capacity. We know how many calls they've had, when they were, and how long they were. (If you're me this naturally brings up the question how does Title IV have any bearing if all this happened after the fact?)

Something doesn't add up. But, let's follow official proceedings, right?

In this case, as an employee, he's allowed a grievance hearing. He's already been fired without said hearing. It's also specifically written in the bylaws of MSU that the parties are afforded confidentiality.

So, he didn't get his hearing before being fired. He wasn't afforded his right to confidentiality. Both of these acts were willingly committed by MSU.

Something doesn't add up.
So, MEL could get his money in theory if that's exactly how it went down.
 
I have defended Mel Tucker because of the ravenous “me too movements”… all it takes is a mere accusation to cancel a man’s life.. we have seen so-called victims, get up in front of congress and lie like hell (and even could not remember anything)…They should be in jail, but it was just “politics”.. never mind the fact that they wasted millions of taxpayers dollars with their charade… Mel Tucker may have been going through a midlife crisis, or just simply not in love with his wife.. He found it with that woman…it was good for a while…then went to shit… the man is full of regret mode, I’m sure… I honestly believe the woman didn’t have a case, because she broke confidentialities to put it in the press…That’s when the wolves came out… so I think Mel Tucker should get very aggressive and proactive with his defense, to ensure A Fair Trial…
 
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So, MEL could get his money in theory if that's exactly how it went down.
If we take him at his word. By the accounts I've read her story seems to corroborate what he's saying as far as how often, and how long, they've been in contact with each other. On most accounts ...

The original report said she'd been invited on campus three times. He says it was once.

All I can say is ...

Something doesn't add up.
 
I have defended Mel Tucker because of the ravenous “me too movements”… all it takes is a mere accusation to cancel a man’s life.. we have seen so-called victims, get up in front of congress and lie like hell (and even could not remember anything)…They should be in jail, but it was just “politics”.. never mind the fact that they wasted millions of taxpayers dollars with their charade… Mel Tucker may have been going through a midlife crisis, or just simply not in love with his wife.. He found it with that woman…it was good for a while…then went to shit… the man is full of regret mode, I’m sure… I honestly believe the woman didn’t have a case, because she broke confidentialities to put it in the press…That’s when the wolves came out… so I think Mel Tucker should get very aggressive and proactive with his defense, to ensure A Fair Trial…

Harvey Weinstein was guilty, as was Jeffrey Epstein to make a comment on your Me Too comments. You're blaming a woman for the decisions a man made. This is where you are flawed in your stance beyond belief. If Mel said no and respected his wife, he wouldn't be here right now and even if she is exploiting him, she wouldn't have that opportunity without him stepping out on his wife. Life is about decisions, and if you make the wrong ones you can pay with your life. You keep belligerently talking about Saban and this football team and their decisions, but men that cheat all had choices, and they picked their path and have to live with it. End of story. Don't care how cool, nice philanthropic someone is, they have choices. Lionel Messi never touches female fans when taking pictures out of respect for his wife. I don't know him from Adam, but knowing a guy takes those steps and then looking at guys like Tucker, Freeze, Petrino, and others, you quickly learn these types of guys are slimeballs no matter how hard the scorned woman twists their balls.
 
Harvey Weinstein was guilty, as was Jeffrey Epstein to make a comment on your Me Too comments. You're blaming a woman for the decisions a man made. This is where you are flawed in your stance beyond belief. If Mel said no and respected his wife, he wouldn't be here right now and even if she is exploiting him, she wouldn't have that opportunity without him stepping out on his wife. Life is about decisions, and if you make the wrong ones you can pay with your life. You keep belligerently talking about Saban and this football team and their decisions, but men that cheat all had choices, and they picked their path and have to live with it. End of story. Don't care how cool, nice philanthropic someone is, they have choices. Lionel Messi never touches female fans when taking pictures out of respect for his wife. I don't know him from Adam, but knowing a guy takes those steps and then looking at guys like Tucker, Freeze, Petrino, and others, you quickly learn these types of guys are slimeballs no matter how hard the scorned woman twists their balls.
Interesting perspective...
 
You're blaming a woman for the decisions a man made. This is where you are flawed in your stance beyond belief. If Mel said no and respected his wife, he wouldn't be here right now and even if she is exploiting him, she wouldn't have that opportunity without him stepping out on his wife.
A flawed stance could also be defined as blaming the man in a consensual relationship. Adultery is binary.
 
It is never ok to run around on your spouse, and it is never ok to be the “other” man/woman. Fact is he probably deserves some of what he’s getting, but she also deserves to be alienated. Both seem to be bad people to me. When the dust settles she will still be the “victim”, even though she is not.
 
In my opinion that's enough to make a judgment about Mel, as a person. It's also enough to judge her.

A real stumbling point for anyone who looks at this critically is seeing Michigan State trying to establish itself on some type of moral high ground. Especially now where we have two consenting adults as compared to what MSU has it its history: rape, abuse, cover-ups, and the like.

She appeared at MSU two years ago and she hasn't been back in any official capacity. We know how many calls they've had, when they were, and how long they were. (If you're me this naturally brings up the question how does Title IV have any bearing if all this happened after the fact?)

Something doesn't add up. But, let's follow official proceedings, right?

In this case, as an employee, he's allowed a grievance hearing. He's already been fired without said hearing. It's also specifically written in the bylaws of MSU that the parties are afforded confidentiality.

So, he didn't get his hearing before being fired. He wasn't afforded his right to confidentiality. Both of these acts were willingly committed by MSU.

Something doesn't add up.
He was offered a hearing and he’s this far has refused to participate in anything and has continually bad mouthed his employer.

MSU has no moral ground to stand on to me, they’re a joke.
 
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