🌎 The 'arguments' about what should be covered by SNAP benefits intrigues me. And yes, I believe there's some personal bias here.

[ElephantStomp]

A family of four receives, on average, just under $1000 a month from SNAP. According to the USDA, the average family of four spends that much on groceries per month.

Now we're seeing them remove overly priced junk foods.

Now we’re seeing their benefits cut, that’s what you meant to say

 

[Krimson]

I wish you could eat entirely healthy on SNAP, but you cannot because of the price of some groceries. You really can’t eat healthy with benefits being cut

That's just not true. I'm not a vegetarian but it is probably healthier than the diet I eat. You can absolutely buy rice, dry beans, and vegetables for what people get for Snap benefits.
If you want meat, the healthiest meat can be obtained with a minimal investment of a hunting license if you have a gun. Fishing rod and license, around $50 in most states.
Snap may not let you shop at Trader Joe's and buy everything you want but it can absolutely provide you with a healthy diet if you're willing to cook from scratch and put a little effort in. Convenience is where the cost is. If you want convenience, get a better job.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Take away snacks and sugary drinks from allowed items. It makes no sense to allow ultra-processed "bags of fudge rounds". Hot prepared foods are excluded, and they are usually more expensive than the uncooked alternative. If you need assistance to feed a family, buy eggs, flour, pasta, beans, canned/frozen veggies and meat. You don't have to listen to Dave Ramsey to figure this out.

SNAP is geared toward families, which is why there are many stories of minimal/limited assistance to individuals.

Almost every type of subsidy was extended, enhanced and broadened under Biden. Under a Biden policy, the FHA has forgiven or extended payments on 15 percent of its outstanding book of loans. Had it not done so, delinquencies would be approaching 2008-09 levels. This isn't due to declines in real estate values or a collapsing housing economy, but lower underwriting standards. We're not talking liar or NINJA (No Income No Job) loans, but they're just forgiving the higher loan to value and weaker credit score borrowers they mandated.

Before their takeover, Democrats had Barney Frank sweetheart (literally) deals. Since the takeovers, the liberal policy approach at their regulator, The Federal Housing Finance Authority, has been driving their underwriting.

It all stinks.

 

[TerryP]

Now we’re seeing their benefits cut, that’s what you meant to say

No. That is not what we are talking about here. Taking away someone's ability to buy a 12 pack of Cherry Coke isn't taking away a benefit. Making a rule that you can't buy a dozen creme filled donuts at the 7-11 isn't a benefit being taken away.

To suggest such is also saying "taking away junk food from a persons diet" is taking away a benefit. You don't believe such.

You've completely missed the point of the USDA numbers earlier. People can feed their families healthier diets. IF their food is being subsidized by you and me, we should want them to live healthier.

As I recall roughly 45 percent of those on SNAP are obese according to the USDA reports. Over half of the women on SNAP are obese. They aren't healthy by any term or reason. Removing items like that Cherry Coke from SNAP? A benefit to their health.

 

[TerryP]

it can absolutely provide you with a healthy diet if you're willing to cook from scratch and put a little effort in. Convenience is where the cost is. If you want convenience, get a better job.

This is what I'm calling effort. It's what I'm putting under the category, "lazy."

This is also where I put in the disclaimer about personal bias.

It's my suspicion a very high percentage of the folks on SNAP would love a good, home cooked dinner. It's also my suspicion they don't want to put in the effort. All they think about is "I have to work in the kitchen for a few minutes." It's never about sitting down and enjoying the end result.

 

[TerryP]

Democrats had Barney Frank sweetheart

He was, and I sort of miss him. Definitely an entertainer.

 

[Bamabww]

you can grab your flour, baking powder and soda, sugar, salt, milk, etc

Wait a minute Terry, did you just tell us you put sugar in homemade biscuits? Please tell me you don't do that to cornbread.

 

[TerryP]

Wait a minute Terry, did you just tell us you put sugar in homemade biscuits? Please tell me you don't do that to cornbread.

I do in my biscuits. DEFINITELY not in cornbread.

It's a TBLS of sugar going into 2 C of AP flour. Baking powder, soda, sea salt, cold butter, and milk ...

All in my big cast iron skillet!!!

 

[TerryP]

@Bamabww when I start building the recipe area under Resources here, my recipe for biscuits was going to be one of the first. I've done it so many times I can rattle the thing off. I stopped experimenting on them several years ago after experimenting with them for quite a long while.

(I've got one using cream of tartar that works out well. And yes, you can find Crisco in my cabinet.)

And I SWEAR by cooking them in the cast iron skillet. When done, they are right at the rim...get 7 or 8.

 

[Bamabww]

I do in my biscuits. DEFINITELY not in cornbread.

Why one and not the other? My grandmother White, 'Mother White' in the book, always put at least a TBLS of sugar in her biscuits AND cornbread. I still use her recipes for both except for the sugar.

 

[TerryP]

Why one and not the other? My grandmother

You answered it right there. My grandmother; her recipe.

I make biscuits all the time. Cornbread? Mostly in the cool/winter months.

I fault you for making me think of Pinto's and cornbread now. Although, it'll likely be a Mexican version...it's the only other I'll make.

 

[Krimson]

You answered it right there. My grandmother; her recipe.

I make biscuits all the time. Cornbread? Mostly in the cool/winter months.

I fault you for making me think of Pinto's and cornbread now. Although, it'll likely be a Mexican version...it's the only other I'll make.

My grandmother's"recipes" were a little of this and a pinch of that until it tasted right

 

[rick4bama]

Never heard of this pie until April was asking me about it. This is who she watch make it.

Mountain Cookin’ with Missy​

Pinto Pie

Pinto Bean pie
15.5 oz can pinto beans rinsed and drained
¾ cup evaporated milk
¾ cup white sugar
¼ cup brown sugar
2 large eggs lightly beaten
2 Tablespoons unsalted butter melted
1 Tablespoon molasses
½ teaspoon ground cinnamon
¼ teaspoon ground nutmeg
¼ teaspoon salt
1 9 inch prepared pie crust
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees Fahrenheit.
Add pinto beans, evaporated milk, white sugar, brown sugar, eggs, molasses, butter, cinnamon, nutmeg, and salt to a blender and blend until smooth, about 40 seconds.
Pour into the pie shell and bake in a preheated oven for 35-40 minutes, until the pie is set in the middle.
Let cool for an hour

 

[TerryP]

Pinto Pie

Yeah, uh. No.

My grandmother's"recipes" were a little of this and a pinch of that until it tasted right

I'd guess one of ten is the number of times I get the measurements correct. IE: Leveling off flour. A TBSP of an liquid.

Hell, saw a recipe the other day that had "two cups of milk + two TBSP's. How the hell did they get to the extra two TBSP's? I can hear it in my head, "I need a little more milk, let's try a tsp this time.

 

[Bamabww]

Pinto Pie

I've made that Rick and added pecans to the top. It was much better than some expected.

 

[TerryP]

I've made that Rick and added pecans to the top. It was much better than some expected.

I looked up a picture of Pinto Pie. It looked like the meal served by Arya known as "Frey Pie" from GOT.

It's a weakness of mine. I know it's picky. I still can't outgrow the reaction of how some foods look and how they turn off my appetite.

 

[Krimson]

Never heard of this pie until April was asking me about it. This is who she watch make it.

Mountain Cookin’ with Missy​

Pinto Pie

Pinto Bean pie
15.5 oz can pinto beans rinsed and drained
¾ cup evaporated milk
¾ cup white sugar
¼ cup brown sugar
2 large eggs lightly beaten
2 Tablespoons unsalted butter melted
1 Tablespoon molasses
½ teaspoon ground cinnamon
¼ teaspoon ground nutmeg
¼ teaspoon salt
1 9 inch prepared pie crust
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees Fahrenheit.
Add pinto beans, evaporated milk, white sugar, brown sugar, eggs, molasses, butter, cinnamon, nutmeg, and salt to a blender and blend until smooth, about 40 seconds.
Pour into the pie shell and bake in a preheated oven for 35-40 minutes, until the pie is set in the middle.
Let cool for an hour

I've had beans in sweets in Japan, pretty common there, but I think I'll pass on making this one. I'd try it though.

 

[rick4bama]

The Pinto Pie became because of the Great Depression.

 

[TerryP]

The Pinto Pie became because of the Great Depression.

That's what her husband said?

 

[rick4bama]

That's what her husband said?

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yes that is who April has been watching.