🌎 The 'arguments' about what should be covered by SNAP benefits intrigues me. And yes, I believe there's some personal bias here.

[TerryP]

Caveat: The utube video I posted above, ( post 87 ) Game Over, is about the numbers of illegals getting more SNAP benefits than American citizens receiving benefits, + many other benefits to boot. There are clips of Congressmen and Senators as well as Speaker of the House Johnson explaining their positions.
When Trump was sworn in back in Jan., he wrote, signed E.O.'s reclaiming some benefits back away from illegal aliens. But, in many Blue sanctuary states and cities, their leaders are still breaking laws and giving illegals money, housing, health care, food (snap), social security numbers, so they can obtain drivers license, hence, an ID to be able to vote. Many social security numbers were stolen recently, and assigned to illegals. Also are given free phones and cell service.


So the numbers may no be as lop sided now as they were under the Biden Admin, they are still high in Blue run states.

While the numbers may be off the gist of the video was clear.

I don't look at this as much under the guise of illegal's getting SNAP as much as I look at the total numbers. I saw in 2020 there were 17.4 million or so on SNAP and that number is well above 41 million now.

My instinct tells me that's related to the work requirements being removed several years ago.

 

[TerryP]

Real butter, lard and olive oil are about all I ever use. Don't ever remember buying margarine.
I have no doubt I could stay full with a fishing rod and a few hooks and a 22 rifle with cartridges

I've got a can of Crisco I pull out on occasion for things like a pie pan. I used it Wednesday making some banana bread. It pretty well stops there. (Although, biscuits made with Crisco have their own unique taste. That, with buttermilk, definitely hits the old school Southern flavor niche.)

I'd be eating a lot of fish if we went into some quasi-apocalypse era. It would take a minute but walking to the reservoir isn't that difficult. Dock fishing isn't too terribly difficult around there because so many people tend to throw back when they are leaving.

(Reminds me...old black fella that sits on one dock almost every day. I've seen him fish a few times. Every time he leaves he has a mess. "What y'all gonna do with dem? I'll take 'em." Just folks throwing fish back... )

 

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[Krimson]

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And if they cook 4lbs of chicken and 2lbs of rice for 4 people I can almost guarantee there will be leftovers. That's a lot of food.

 

[TerryP]

And if they cook 4lbs of chicken and 2lbs of rice for 4 people I can almost guarantee there will be leftovers. That's a lot of food.

The chicken; I need to look. $14 seems about two bucks high to me with Grok's deal. I know it was less than $3 a lb the last time; $2.89 is what's hitting me. I know the pack was a little over $14 but it was also close to 5 lbs.

The Chef's egg price is .60 more. No clue on how much per slice of toast!!

I'm a little tempted to do this for one day in my life. But geez, that's complicated! Just one dish is WAY TOO much math.

 

[Krimson]

The chicken; I need to look. $14 seems about two bucks high to me with Grok's deal. I know it was less than $3 a lb the last time; $2.89 is what's hitting me. I know the pack was a little over $14 but it was also close to 5 lbs.

The Chef's egg price is .60 more. No clue on how much per slice of toast!!

I'm a little tempted to do this for one day in my life. But geez, that's complicated! Just one dish is WAY TOO much math.

Easiest way would be to use your monthly average grocery bill. I can assure you we don't spend anywhere near $1800 a month on food we cook at home and there's 5 of us. The 4lbs of chicken they used in the example meal would be enough for 2 or 3 meals using a 4 to 6 ounce serving size. When we were stationary I grew 2/3 of the vegetables we ate for probably 1/3 of what it would've cost me at a grocery store. It ain't hard to eat healthy for reasonably cheap.

 

[TerryP]

Easiest way would be to use your monthly average grocery bill.

Ha! I started thinking about it and quit when I got to the third constant; bread. Milk and eggs? Easy. Hell, I can think of three types I've bought this month alone. Capt. John Durst for BBQ, but I don't want that for a Cuban (used a fresh French loaf from a bakery.) Hawaiin for the smoked ham. I've got my mind on meatball subs right now...

 

[Krimson]

Ha! I started thinking about it and quit when I got to the third constant; bread. Milk and eggs? Easy. Hell, I can think of three types I've bought this month alone. Capt. John Durst for BBQ, but I don't want that for a Cuban (used a fresh French loaf from a bakery.) Hawaiin for the smoked ham. I've got my mind on meatball subs right now...

We eat a lot of different stuff each month but I'd say we spend pretty close to the same amount each month. I don't track it anymore like I used to have to. Biggest variables would be the amount of beef and seafood we buy.

 

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[TerryP]

On the depot note...never looked at their prices. Good prices on knives and assumdries

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Haven't read anything in this thread so maybe this has been covered, but the headline caught my attention...

Alabama bill seeks to limit SNAP purchases of unhealthy foods

House Bill 31, currently under consideration in Alabama, proposes that the state's Department of Human Resources (DHR) request federal permission to restrict ce

abc3340.com

 

[TerryP]

January we see soda's and snacks removed from SNAP benefits.
February we see Pepisco announced a 15 percent drop in prices.

Coincidence?

 

[rick4bama]

Gov. Kay Ivey signs Alabama SNAP soda, candy ban into law. What to know



https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=22e6...vZGErYW5kK2NhbmR5JTNmJmZvcm09Q1NCUkFORA&ntb=1

Alabama Signs Law to Restrict SNAP Use for Candy and Soda​

Alabama Governor Kay Ivey has signed SB 57, a bill that will require the state to request a federal waiver to ban SNAP recipients from using benefits to buy certain candy and soda .

Purpose and Background​

The law, sponsored by Sen. Arthur Orr (R-Decatur) and Rep. Reed Ingram (R-Pike Road), aims to promote healthier diets by limiting purchases of sugary foods linked to obesity and diabetes. Alabama has one of the nation’s highest obesity rates — about 38.9% of adults and 22.8% of children are obese AOL.

How It Works​

• Federal Waiver Required: The Alabama Department of Human Resources (DHR) must seek approval from the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Food and Nutrition Service before the restrictions take effect Yahoo+1.
• Implementation Date: If approved, the ban will take effect no sooner than April 1, 2027 Yahoo. Some reports note earlier proposed dates (Oct. 1, 2026) but the current law’s text sets April 1, 2027 as the earliest possible Yahoo+1.
• Annual Reapplication: If the USDA denies the waiver, Alabama must reapply each year until approval is granted rocketcitynow.com+1.

What’s Banned​

Candy is defined as products where sugar, cane sugar, corn syrup, or high fructose corn syrup is a primary ingredient, including:

• Chocolate bars
• Non-chocolate candy
• Chewing gum
• Other sugar-based confections

Soda is defined as beverages where the first two ingredients are carbonated water plus sugar, cane sugar, corn syrup, or high fructose corn syrup
Diet sodas (with low- or no-calorie sweeteners) are still allowed Yahoo+1.

What’s Not Banned​

Some sweet items remain eligible for SNAP, such as:

• Baked goods (cakes, cookies)
• Jams, jellies, frostings
• Marshmallows
• Hot cocoa mix
• Powdered drink mixes

State and Federal Context​

The law aligns with a Trump administration initiative to expand rural healthcare and improve public health. Similar waivers have been approved for 22 other states. Critics warn the restrictions could burden low-income families and small retailers, while supporters see it as a step toward reducing obesity

Bottom line: Alabama’s new law will not take effect until after a federal waiver is approved, but it sets the stage for banning SNAP purchases of certain sugary candy and soda starting in 2027.