🧑🤝🧑 / 🏡 CV-19: Effects on life, work, and sports
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planomateo
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Six of us went out last night for a quick bite/drink. One of our group is a local math teacher and has been adamant about not wanting to return to school for fear of her health.
As the night went on she pointed out four of the people working there telling us "they are in my classes." As it ends up, she and her "beau" had been to this place about a dozen times over the last few weeks.
Are you seeing the disconnect here? She's more than willing to go to a place to eat with her students serving her but lord no, the idea of teaching?
As the night went on she pointed out four of the people working there telling us "they are in my classes." As it ends up, she and her "beau" had been to this place about a dozen times over the last few weeks.
Are you seeing the disconnect here? She's more than willing to go to a place to eat with her students serving her but lord no, the idea of teaching?
Yes, it's old. But it still made the hair on the back of this neck stand up LOL. You think that this whole thing kicked off rationed health care? Or could this example from this particular tweet have just been an isolated incident?
mando
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In my eyes apples and oranges comparison - a 1 hour dinner encounter with one or two students for a few minutes to take their order and serving it to being in the same room 5 days a week for 8 hours a day with 30+ students.
BTW I am not one that thinks they cannot make this work but the two comparisons are not equivalent in my eyes.
It's interesting that lots of teachers now suddenly claim that their immune systems are "absolutely shot". One, they certainly never mentioned anything like that before. And two, if that is the case, if their immune systems are shot, as they put it, what were they doing teaching in the first place? The disconnect seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
rocknthefreeworld
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The thing to me is that teachers were all screaming a few months ago about how we couldn't close schools because kids would not be fed or would wind up abused. Now they don't acre at all about that. I expect this is a bargaining chip to try to get more money like always. Once the union says they will gladly work if paid more they will all fall in line.
And in one instance, eating out, there is no social distancing, mask, etc. In the other (school) it's mandated with seats already spaced and schedules being adjusted.
It's okay for her to be around people for her entertainment. It's not okay if it's her damn job.
While I'm being a little facetious here, and this is certainly a matter of constant debate across the aisles, how badly will we see some melt down if this were something everyone could take advantage of for their children. I don't know...something like school vouchers.
mando
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You added some new info. That is certainly a disconnect. So in the school case precautions are being followed but in the social setting they are not.
The litmus test for me is how much time will I be in a setting and are precautions being followed? Also, how widespread are the cases in your area. All if this is about risk management which for most is low.
Exactly, and that was my point in the first place. I should have shared more detail in the first post.
That's the thing here with me and it's been that way since day one. I know I've said this a dozen times or more. The "wash your hands, don't touch your face, don't get close to people you aren't familiar with, etc." These are everyday practices with me and have been since I was old enough to play outside as a kid.
I don't know what the local numbers are here in the Tri-County. Even if I knew the latest from this morning's news, I'll admit, I'd look at it skeptically. That happens when you have people in the medical profession tell you things like "we sent in 50+ test, unopened, and they all came back positive." (She works in a local "doc in a box")
From what I have heard, the county I reside in (Shelby) is on a "places to watch" or some such list at the White House. So...my question is, what do they do if the things that they are watching for (whatever that may be) happen? Do they ramp up testing sites in the county? Give Shelby Medical in Alabaster more funds?
planomateo
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If you think about the number of beds available at Shelby (they used to have a 210-bed capacity, not sure now) for a county of 217,000, you'd have to include the south Jefferson hospitals of Brookwood and Grandview in that funding determination, along with UAB.
Looking at the map showing the new infection rates per 100,000 residents, every county in the state is considered high (over 100). Some are in the 500-600 range, and Shelby is at 340. If Shelby is on some contingency watch basis, it would be more based on the population density versus current infection rate.
I took my mom to Homewood for an outpatient knee procedure last Thursday (she's recovered very well). No one was allowed in the facility other than the patient. Greg Carr had done an earlier arthroscopic procedure on the other knee, a few others on my dad along with his knee replacement. He's not too bad for an aubrun guy, actually a very likable fellow.
Hanging out for several hours, with little to do in Homewood, did remind me of this classic:
mando
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I understand this point also. A lot of mistakes being made but I do not throw out all numbers because of some reported mistakes. I also look at more than one report. Now if they are all getting info from the same place well then I am probably getting fooled.
When it is all said and done it is my personal responsibility and choice to make. I choose to try and not make it worse for myself, my family and my neighbors. So I take the necessary precautions. The riskiest thing I have done so far is to go to my sons high school graduation where there were probably 1000+ people in doors. The facility is much larger than that so everyone was able to distance themselves and most had on masks (was required to get in). Not much else I can do. After all of those precautions I then look at the probability of getting the virus in the first place and secondly having a severe case which could lead to death. Both of those are very very low unless you are in a high risk group.
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