Davestwin
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You lost me on comparing Russia and Saudi Arabia. Oneās a major global power and the otherās not. That youāre saying itās related to race or ethnicity is stunning. However, one thing I know ā¦ thereās little chance changing opinions once race is thrown into the mix. People who view events through the prism of race are like those Bama fans who view everything through Crimson colored glasses. Both only see what they want to see and they always attribute nefarious motives to those with whom they disagree.
So, to be clear, my reasons have absolutely zero to do with race ā¦ period! They have everything to do with Americaās national interest and Americaās role as a stabilizing force for good in the world. If you donāt see how Russia invading Ukraine is different because it has negative implications for both then Iām at a loss ā¦ just as I am with your labeling of what I laid out as āwhataboutismā. I didnāt try to change the subject and I certainly didnāt try to avoid discussing your assertions. Your claim is Americans as a whole base their support about where America should intervene militarily on race isnāt supported by the post WWII historical record. Americans support intervention when our leaders make a clear and compelling argument for why our intervention is in our national interest and is the right thing to do. Both components must be true or most Americans wonāt support it. Taking control of Canada and their economy would certainly be in Americaās interest but it wouldnāt be right. Intervening in Saudi Arabia wouldnāt be in Americaās national interest even though itās the right thing to do. Getting involved in two SE Asia wars were in America and the free worldās best interests and were the right things to do. Not finishing both turned the right thing to do upside down ā¦ especially in Viet Nam. At least in Korea we were willing to persevere in winning half of the war ā¦ but the North Korean people have paid a heavy price for only half a victory. Many of us thought America and Americans had learned our lesson until we once again saw our nationās inability to see victory through in Iraq and Afghanistan. So, as I said, I donāt support sending our young warriors into combat anywhere, including Ukraine, if our nation doesnāt have the resolve to complete the job and make the lost lives mean something. Race and ethnicity donāt come into play.
Those Americans who want America to stop being the global leader for good will eventually see just how badly that turns out for the world and for America. History shows us that the lessons of the past repeat themselves over and over again in the future with only the actors changing. Allowing China and Russia to fill the vacuum left by Americaās withdrawal from the world stage will usher in dramatic and far reaching negative results for the free world and for America. Western Europe and America sat back in the 1930ās and allowed Germany, Japan and much less so Italy a free hand to serve their own despicable aims and it took 60 million lives and a world war to restore some semblance of order. Though the mistake made by the left to coddle Stalin and the Soviet Union in the aftermath cost millions upon millions of people their freedom and America tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars.
Who didn't see this coming?
