🌎 Wall to Wall: Russia, Russia, Russia. This Ukraine mess, what's your feelings on the matter?

[It Takes Eleven]

Maybe I'm just gullible, but it looks like Russia may actually be attacking Ukraine.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Interesting thread

Some of those are blatantly reused from way back or faked. I have seen very few of those at all tied to this one. Lots of folks lying all over.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

This bothers me. It's poisonous, for lack of a better word. It's also the same mindset we see from terrorists when it comes to civilians. They're after leaders and look at those around them as the one's who made them leaders.

This ranks up there with those who with a gloating tone were tweeting images of people stranded because Apple and Google pay are no longer working.

This is the same as painting all Germans who didn't put their lives in jeopardy in WWI to stop Hitler as equal to the Nazis themselves. Very common today to say you are on one side or the other no matter what and refuse to see any shades of grey. Same folks would not put their lives on the line to save people in their own house usually.

 

[planomateo]

Russian military impressing anyone?

European countries now realize some of their decisions of late were just flat out dumb.

 

[RollllTide!]

My company is giving free phone calls to Ukraine until further notice.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

My company is giving free phone calls to Ukraine until further notice.

1-800-236-5227 (BIOLABS)

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Just a few updates:

Alcoa Stops Raw Material Sales to Russian Aluminum Makers

Alcoa Corp. will no longer sell raw materials to Russian aluminum businesses in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the company said in a letter to employees. Pittsburgh-based Alco

www.wsj.com

Finra Halts Over-the-Counter Trades in Some Russian Companies

The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority halted trading in the over-the-counter market for several U.S.-listed shares of Russian companies. Finra halted trading in American depositary receipts of Sberbank Russia and energy companies Gazprom Neft PJSC and PJSC Lukoil, [according to the regulator’

www.wsj.com

 

[TerryP]

Just a few updates:

Alcoa Stops Raw Material Sales to Russian Aluminum Makers

Alcoa Corp. will no longer sell raw materials to Russian aluminum businesses in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the company said in a letter to employees. Pittsburgh-based Alco

www.wsj.com

Finra Halts Over-the-Counter Trades in Some Russian Companies

The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority halted trading in the over-the-counter market for several U.S.-listed shares of Russian companies. Finra halted trading in American depositary receipts of Sberbank Russia and energy companies Gazprom Neft PJSC and PJSC Lukoil, [according to the regulator’

www.wsj.com

Well...thank god they seized two yachts as well and their kids (supposedly) won't be able to attend western schools. I see they're suggesting Harris head over as well.

The strategical thinking of an eight year old rolling dice playing Risk.

This will be over soon.

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I'm still shaking my head about POTUS asking Congress for 10B in aid for Ukraine when he was extorting their government over a million a few years ago (with regard to the crackhead.)

 

[TerryP]

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Obviously that governor has not talked with Tommy Tubberville. He will tell you about how the Communists need that Ukrainian farmland. Obviously the Soviet Union still exists.

 

[TerryP]

Obviously that governor has not talked with Tommy Tubberville.

Except I have to "claim" him, I guess. ICYMI,

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

I don't claim any of them anymore. My curmudgeon is too strong now. I am no longer a "get off my damn lawn" guy and more of a "get out of my damn statehouse/Congress" guy.

 

[Davestwin]

He has completely fucked his economy for quite some time in order to take over some pipelines that he has already built others to replace with.

You’re absolutely right about this being primarily an ideological war on Putin’s part … but you can bet he’s also very interested in how he’ll pay for his ideological war of aggression. He knows Ukraine has massive reserves of coal, natural gas, iron and especially rare earth minerals. He also knows Ukraine contains the most fertile crop land in all of what used make up the Soviet Union. Even his warped old Soviet KBG mind knows he has to care about the economics of running a nation as large as Russia. Islamist terrorists also wage war based upon economics though in a different dimension. They aren’t concerned with gaining any wealth from their attacks … they use their cowardly terror attacks to harm the economies of those nations they despise. They could have killed more people by flying planes into packed sports stadiums but they knew it wouldn’t harm the American economy as much as a strike on NYC and the Pentagon would … and the Capitol too. They only missed on it because a number of brave citizens sacrificed their lives to make sure their plane wasn’t going to be flown into any other buildings.

 

[XXL TideFan]

You’re absolutely right about this being primarily an ideological war on Putin’s part … but you can bet he’s also very interested in how he’ll pay for his ideological war of aggression. He knows Ukraine has massive reserves of coal, natural gas, iron and especially rare earth minerals. He also knows Ukraine contains the most fertile crop land in all of what used make up the Soviet Union. Even his warped old Soviet KBG mind knows he has to care about the economics of running a nation as large as Russia. Islamist terrorists also wage war based upon economics though in a different dimension. They aren’t concerned with gaining any wealth from their attacks … they use their cowardly terror attacks to harm the economies of those nations they despise. They could have killed more people by flying planes into packed sports stadiums but they knew it wouldn’t harm the American economy as much as a strike on NYC and the Pentagon would … and the Capitol too. They only missed on it because a number of brave citizens sacrificed their lives to make sure their plane wasn’t going to be flown into any other buildings.

I think Russia is the #1 wheat exporter and Ukraine is #2. Maybe swapped but the gist of is that a combined 30% of world wheat is being threatened just before planting season. The CIA puts out paper that covers every country on the planet as to resources.

 

[PurlJam]

I think Russia is the #1 wheat exporter and Ukraine is #2. Maybe swapped but the gist of is that a combined 30% of world wheat is being threatened just before planting season. The CIA puts out paper that covers every country on the planet as to resources.

You would be right on Russia as #1..... We are #3, Ukraine is #5. Canada is #2, France #4. Based on the top 20 report 2 days ago.... Ukraine had actually moved up quite a bit from the last report I had seen on them being # 9.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Russia is not going to be able to pay for this war in the end. They are going to be alienated for a while after it

 

[planomateo]

The LinkedIn post I was referenced earlier. I haven't confirmed these fwiw.


For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
This is why Ukraine matters.

It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population of over 40 million - more than Poland.

Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.

Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an important industrialized country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defense industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

 

[PurlJam]

The LinkedIn post I was referenced earlier. I haven't confirmed these fwiw.


For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
This is why Ukraine matters.

It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population of over 40 million - more than Poland.

Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.

Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an important industrialized country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defense industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

It ain’t about money.

 

[TerryP]

I don't claim any of them anymore. My curmudgeon is too strong now. I am no longer a "get off my damn lawn" guy and more of a "get out of my damn statehouse/Congress" guy.

I'm hesitant to criticize those elected in other states because I had nothing to do with putting them in office. Graham I have to claim because it was a vote for him or Jaime Harrison.

 

[TerryP]

Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

Important to the "white, Anglo-Saxon, pro-European part of the world" seems more apropos. I find "border security" and the "natural resources" argument hollow, at best, considering its limited scope.