BamaFan334
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Ahhh, my bad. I had him mixed up with Brian Hartline from Ohio State. Another player/coach. Must be the anesthesia.
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Ahhh, my bad. I had him mixed up with Brian Hartline from Ohio State. Another player/coach. Must be the anesthesia.
NickelDoubleDog
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Leonhard has less than half the talent Golding and Alabama have. Ask any coaches who the better defensive mind and play caller is - it’s Leonhard by light years
ElephantStomp
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This wouldn’t be an upgrade by any measure
TerryP
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Leonhard coaches against offensive systems that have half the talent of the SEC.
Scrape&Search1032
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I'm telling you now. Leonhard would be an upgrade over Golding. And they did run that offense, however they didn't run it the entire game. I understand not being prepared for something when no one runs it in modern football. But there are adjustments for it because it's pretty much like playing Georgia tech under Paul Johnson. It's difficult, but it's not impossible to adjust.
SoCalPatrick
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There's nothing to support this. In fact, borderline ridiculous to think it's an improvement to hire a DC with no experience in the south to take over the Bama defense. Recruiting would take a huge hit.
In fact, I'd dare say, you'd be calling for his head in year two because he's proven he can't maintain a defense. Good one year, decent the next.
There are three teams in the Big 10 that are notable. Penn State who they lost to last year. Michigan who they lost to last year. They lost to IU and Iowa two years ago. And that's who you think is an improvement? Ohio State beat 'em twice in 2019 along with a loss to Illinois?
TDS found in political circles is kin to GDS, and you have it in spades.
Scrape&Search1032
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I was mistaken. They've only been outside the top 10 twice.
Covers has it like this in total defense
17: 1st.
18: 41st.
19:9th.
20: 1st.
21: 2nd.
22: 13th.
Sports Reference.
17: 3rd.
18: 35th.
19:10th
20:10th.
21:4th
22: 25th.
Seems pretty consistent to me. Also, can have it both ways with that take, he may not face offenses of that caliber, but he also doesn't have the caliber players to work with either.
Scrape&Search1032
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Sir, please do some research before spouting this out. He's had a top 10 defense every year apart from 2018 and 2022. Guess how many Golding has since he's been here? Take a guess. The defense he puts out on the field is good. However, there is a talent discrepancy, he doesn't have the players at Wisconsin that he would at Alabama. We'd be a consistent top 10 defense under Leonhard. But my first choice is still Glenn Schumann. Leonhard is my second choice. He may get snagged by the Packers or another team this season because he's a highly sought after Coach.
Scrape&Search1032
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We don't know whether or not he would be a great recruiter. He's at fucking Wisconsin, a place where it's not exactly a recruiting dream. However, be gets players and develops them into NFL talent.
TerryP
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Total defense. A four win Iowa State ranks higher than than Wisky.
To me, it's about defensive efficiency. Leonhard can't touch Golding's defenses in this category.
What I find baffling about this suggestion is the use of "caliber of talent" when it's clear he's not a recruiter.
Scrape&Search1032
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Listen, I gave you the evidence. Do with it as you please. And yes, recruiting at Wisconsin is not the same as recruiting at Alabama. Put golding in that position and I'd bet he'd struggle as well. Leonhard has done better with 2-3 stars than golding has done with 4-5 stars. But I still want Glenn Schumann here first and foremost.
TerryP
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The problem here is Golding's reputation for recruiting came from his time at UTSA and Southern Miss. He's going to now struggle at a P5 school? Okay. But we've got a guy who can't recruit to a P5 school and he's supposed to recruit in the SEC?
You gave the evidence and I can do with it as I please? While, all the time ignoring the defensive efficiency rankings of the defense? Tap dancing in a disco club, are ya?
Crimson&WhiteGecko
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Just on the topic of recruiting... who would you say are the top 5 (no particular order) that Golding has brought to Alabama?
Scrape&Search1032
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Hugs and kisses, Terry.
NickelDoubleDog
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Except Ohio St, which was the comparison given of who he can’t stop.
Ohio St has more skill talent in offense than anyone
NickelDoubleDog
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I think he can call a defense that doesn’t come out of a timeout with 12 guys on the field.
I don’t think he runs a 1-4-6 defense on 3rd and 5 vs a mobile QB with zero players on the second level, no spy, and 2 deep safeties aligned at 15 yards off the LOS
ElephantStomp
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He isn’t an upgrade over Golding in any measure. Make a change fine, but to make a change to a lesser coordinator is asinine
ElephantStomp
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As for the 12 guys thing, that was just dumb, but it’s not just Golding, hell the greatest HC of all time was standing right there as were a ton of other coaches
TerryP
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Or Michigan. Or Penn State.
TerryP
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Kool-Aid, Dallas Turner, Drew Sanders (oh how the fans have loved him this season,) Holstein, Byron Young, Latham, Blackshire, Oatis ...
This notion a school can bring in a Yankee and he's going to recruit in the south is ... seriously. Alabama's name would open the door. Grandma isn't cooking dinner. He's not a recruiter.
You be you.Hugs and kisses, Terry.
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