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Justneedme81
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That's pretty much it!
'65 Cobra
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Yep, that's what Roman was saying. It was on Moore - the safety - on that particular play. Should've stayed in his deep zone instead of tracing the breaking receiver because he already had help over there.
bamafan9201
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It's a tough decision on that one, the route was schemed correctly there IMO they caught Bama playing in their normal soft zone coverage and exploited it. Something I've said needs to be addressed. Sometimes you have to look at where you're successful in a game or across a season, our defense is much more successful if we pin our ears back and go after the QB/RB and force 3rd and long and keep the pressure on. Will we get beat deep and on some misdirection some? Sure, but we'll ultimately be a better defense if we disguise coverage and blitzes more and force the QB to make quicker and tougher decisions with the football.
While I agree with Roman, Malachai is responsible for that player, it's not black and white there. That's a scheme issue not a player issue. He's taught to take the person entering his zone, which is the seam route. The defender underneath is taught to take the out route or post that turns into a wheel until it gets to the deep 1/2. The issue is that Malachai can't cover the ground between his receiver and the far receiver in time to make the handoff. So if he leaves the middle receiver and covers that deep half there, he likely leaves a wide open guy over the middle, unless Sabb is fast to react to the change (Which he doesn't move fast enough to do so). The question you gotta ask yourself is "Is that what he's coached to do?" or is that a decision he made himself? I believe it's a coaching scheme/fit. In that situation 4th and long, once again we always like to run that cover 2 zone scheme and South Carolina knew we would be in it, they dialed up a play for a TD. The QB even stared down the receiver but because it wasn't man coverage nobody stuck to him and we got beat because 2 receivers occupied a single deep zone. Unless we cheat the safeties over there pre-snap and change the way they guard the zone or unless we play man in that situation which is my preferred option, we are going to get beat there 9 out of 10 times.
Which is why I've been beating the drum of manning up on 3rd and 4th and long situations and playing press coverage or at least if you're wanting to do zone. Disguise it as man coverage and have 6-7 fake blitzing on the line and have them drop. The QB will likely take the hot route and you will tackle him 3-4 yards short of the line.
While I agree with Roman, Malachai is responsible for that player, it's not black and white there. That's a scheme issue not a player issue. He's taught to take the person entering his zone, which is the seam route. The defender underneath is taught to take the out route or post that turns into a wheel until it gets to the deep 1/2. The issue is that Malachai can't cover the ground between his receiver and the far receiver in time to make the handoff. So if he leaves the middle receiver and covers that deep half there, he likely leaves a wide open guy over the middle, unless Sabb is fast to react to the change (Which he doesn't move fast enough to do so). The question you gotta ask yourself is "Is that what he's coached to do?" or is that a decision he made himself? I believe it's a coaching scheme/fit. In that situation 4th and long, once again we always like to run that cover 2 zone scheme and South Carolina knew we would be in it, they dialed up a play for a TD. The QB even stared down the receiver but because it wasn't man coverage nobody stuck to him and we got beat because 2 receivers occupied a single deep zone. Unless we cheat the safeties over there pre-snap and change the way they guard the zone or unless we play man in that situation which is my preferred option, we are going to get beat there 9 out of 10 times.
Which is why I've been beating the drum of manning up on 3rd and 4th and long situations and playing press coverage or at least if you're wanting to do zone. Disguise it as man coverage and have 6-7 fake blitzing on the line and have them drop. The QB will likely take the hot route and you will tackle him 3-4 yards short of the line.
Not sure you can absolutely make those statements w/o understanding the call. Multiple scenarios are possible. If Moore was expected to "push" then he protects the outside quadrant not the man because he has inside help. Not sure this is a scheme issue either. It is a communication issue where either Saab never made the call or Moore did not get it for some reason. Another option is Moore did not trust the call and took it on himself to follow the inside receiver.
bamafan9201
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I think we can disagree on this, because while I understand your thoughts you're making as much of a guess as I am here. I think it's a scheme issue because Moore and Saab before the play do not attempt to communicate any changes, the sideline isn't asking them to adjust or yelling. So this is either bad scheme or poor performance by the players without asking directly one of the participants we'll never know the actual truth.
I think the push call would come after the play starts when Saab sees max protection - no one is coming out from the TE so he us free to go to the middle of the field. Yes in reality we are speculating but adjustments do not just happen pre snap.
A lot of what I am saying is based on what Harper was saying in his video analysis of the play.
You're either a genius troll or a phucking moron.
Scrape&Search1032
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Either way, wouldn't have been a good hire. GLENN SCHUMANN ON THE OTHER HAND!!!!!
Looking back, I don't think I meant to say Dabo. I think I meant Kiffin or Sark
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