| CURRENT EVENTS Israel vs. Iran, and where will the US fit in?
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ElephantStomp
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No different than morons waving Israeli flags
24and7
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Nothing worse than waving Hamas or Hezzholah flags..those fruitcakes have no idea what they are taking about…but I say wave no other flags than the US flag..
24and7
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1. John Boozman, R-AR
2. Katie Britt, R-AL
3. Shelley Moore Capito, R-WV
4. Bill Cassidy, R-LA
5. Susan Collins, R-ME
6. John Cornyn, R-TX
7. Tom Cotton, R-AR
8. Kevin Cramer, R-ND
9. Mike Crapo, R-ID
10. Steve Daines, R-MT
11. Joni Ernst, R-IA
12. Deb Fischer, R-NE
13. Lindsey Graham, R-SC
14. Chuck Grassley, R-IA
15. John Hoeven, R-ND
16. Cindy Hyde-Smith, R-MS
17. John Kennedy, R-LA
18. James Lankford, R-OK
19. Mitch McConnell, R-KY
20. Jerry Moran, R-KS
21. Markwayne Mullin, R-OK
22. Lisa Murkowski, R-AK
23. Pete Ricketts, R-NE
24. James Risch, R-ID
25. Mitt Romney, R-UT
26. Mike Rounds, R-SD
27. Tim Scott, R-SC
28. Dan Sullivan, R-AK
29. John Thune, R-SD
30. Thom Tillis, R-NC
31. Roger Wicker, R-MS
32. Todd Young, R-IN
The treasonous Senators that voted “Yes” for $95 billion of you tax dollars for foreign countries… UNIPARTY!
2. Katie Britt, R-AL
3. Shelley Moore Capito, R-WV
4. Bill Cassidy, R-LA
5. Susan Collins, R-ME
6. John Cornyn, R-TX
7. Tom Cotton, R-AR
8. Kevin Cramer, R-ND
9. Mike Crapo, R-ID
10. Steve Daines, R-MT
11. Joni Ernst, R-IA
12. Deb Fischer, R-NE
13. Lindsey Graham, R-SC
14. Chuck Grassley, R-IA
15. John Hoeven, R-ND
16. Cindy Hyde-Smith, R-MS
17. John Kennedy, R-LA
18. James Lankford, R-OK
19. Mitch McConnell, R-KY
20. Jerry Moran, R-KS
21. Markwayne Mullin, R-OK
22. Lisa Murkowski, R-AK
23. Pete Ricketts, R-NE
24. James Risch, R-ID
25. Mitt Romney, R-UT
26. Mike Rounds, R-SD
27. Tim Scott, R-SC
28. Dan Sullivan, R-AK
29. John Thune, R-SD
30. Thom Tillis, R-NC
31. Roger Wicker, R-MS
32. Todd Young, R-IN
The treasonous Senators that voted “Yes” for $95 billion of you tax dollars for foreign countries… UNIPARTY!
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Foreign aid is now synonymous with treason...there's a whole lotta deep thinking going on around here. Really glad Britt broke from the Trump influence.
24and7
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I hope she gets crushed by an America First challenger next election..She lied and changed her vote.. Ukraine is getting crushed and depopulated..It’s a Europe problem..Taiwan should be funded by Japan, Australia, South Korea, and India…We are being invaded here by foreign troops, convicts and terrorist… and We are 30 plus trillion in debt… So yeah piss on foreign aid..If they want to trade, then that’s fine..
TerryP
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Get off my band wagon!
How many times have I mentioned the casual use of words devaluing the actual meaning of those words? @ElephantStomp might have a count for us. 
We could add "treason" to this quote.
"Words like social justice, bigot, xenophobe, racist, fascist, misogynist, socialist, dreamer, snowflake, liberal, conservative, and democracy are the meaningless words of our day. Nobody knows what they mean anymore. They are used as bullets in the form of verbal warfare, not as honest descriptions. In fact they are used quite dishonestly, with the "intent to deceive" as Orwell put it. In other words, they are used to serve the speaker's or writer's agenda rather than to create understanding. Political jargon is abused until it loses all value, either to describe, praise, or insult." - Jeff Deist
TerryP
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And by the way, I do think "treason" can be apropos here. Those listed above "betrayed" the trust of the American people with their support of a border that's not our own.
"...the action of betraying someone or something" is the primary definition of treason.
IF this was about the recent FISA vote? Treason is absolutely correct. They are betraying someone and something.
24and7
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I’m curious .. We owe 32 plus trillion dollars in debt.. Do we owe debt to any of these nations we are giving foreign aid to?..Have we ever demanded cancellation of any debt, for our foreign aid or our military intervention?.. How do you give away billions of dollars, when you don’t have a pot to piss in??… We have not paid $1 on a debt that is drawing $40 million in intrest daily!..
When Ukraine was attacked, a majority rose to help defend them. Trump's entrance into this policy turned many, through their blind allegiance to a charlatan, away. I know your position hasn't changed on foreign aid and intervention, but it's a fickle crowd who follows a crook.
Yes, that would be a logical next step in this walk, defaulting on the portion of the National Debt held by foreigners. That would certainly make us stronger at home...
TerryP
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Are you also implying Katie is fickle? What "influence" are you referring to here?
At the beginning of the football season last fall Britt joined the likes of Graham, Blackburn, Cruz, et al in a petition to Biden to "change course" on how he and his administration are handling the border. When these issues arrived at the floor where was she? Isn't that the definition of fickle? It was important to her last September, but a dismissed footnote in April?
For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of grouping the southern border, Israel and Iran, along with Ukraine and Russia in the same conversation. While they do fall under the same umbrella of incompetence there are enough differences I tend to try to look at each separately.
When we have representatives saying the Ukraine border is our border? Fickle doesn't describe that notion. I'll entertain feather-brained or farceur.
I've never said anything about the border. I'm talking about the about face by Trump followers on Ukraine when he started yammering about being against support for Ukraine, and they all fell in line.
TerryP
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I guess I should have read this at 4:20: evidently I'm smarter for that singular moment.
I'd have to go back and look at that timeline more closely. I have no idea when Trump can out against financing that war. I remember the early story lines about Putin wouldn't have invaded under his administration: I believe that to be true. I have to weigh that against my feelings the election of Biden would bring this turmoil: self fulfilling prophecy, perhaps.
X
XXL TideFan
Do some digging. You would be shocked at how much the Chinese owe from before their revolution.
24and7
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Then we need to play “let's make a deal”… the Brics system will ensure that we will never be able to pay it off..One day our national credit card will be revoked…Or has it already..BRICS was designed to end our borrowing and debt selling..
TerryP
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@It Takes Eleven I can't remember when you were born. I know it's within a few years.
Idle thought:
Over the last few years we've seen 1984 mentioned repeatedly. No one has mentioned 1968.
Now, I was only a year old so this isn't a "first hand experience." Still, I can't help but think ...
Unpopular President in an unpopular war with a convention coming up in Chicago. Will the tens of thousands be dwarfed this time around?
Idle thought:
Over the last few years we've seen 1984 mentioned repeatedly. No one has mentioned 1968.
Now, I was only a year old so this isn't a "first hand experience." Still, I can't help but think ...
Unpopular President in an unpopular war with a convention coming up in Chicago. Will the tens of thousands be dwarfed this time around?
ElephantStomp
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I don’t agree with @It Takes Eleven on damn near anything, but he’s 100% right, the Repubs were all for sending Ukraine money and such until their leader came out against it then all of a sudden they’re against it
1965.
The only reason anyone will equate that Chicago convention with the upcoming one is because they want to over emphasize any connection just to get clicks and for shits and giggles. In 1968, people were being drafted and sent to Vietnam. Completely different scenario now, albeit unpopular in some segments, but not nearly the same. American treasure is being spilled, but no American blood is being spilled.
TerryP
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