🌎 Israel vs. Iran, and where will the US fit in?

[musso]

Cool. What does that have to do with killing terrorists?

Everything. Before killing terrorists you must properly identify terrorism in a way that doesn’t implicate oneself. To put it another way, before identifying faults in the “other,” you must know and understand the “other.” Before knowing the “other,” one must first know oneself including one’s own faults. As a civilization we must take responsibility for our own contributions in this matter and cease before we can begin to claim which side deserves to be murdered. A famous figure once advocated removing the plank from your own eye before removing the splinter in the other’s eye.

On a related note, one of his most famous followers is also quoted to have said, “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, male nor female, slave nor free…” So maybe we shouldn’t be obsessed with race or any other superficial division that continues to fuel conflict, make defense contractors richer, make tax payers poorer, and kill innocent humans.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Everything. Before killing terrorists you must properly identify terrorism in a way that doesn’t implicate oneself. To put it another way, before identifying faults in the “other,” you must know and understand the “other.” Before knowing the “other,” one must first know oneself including one’s own faults. As a civilization we must take responsibility for our own contributions in this matter and cease before we can begin to claim which side deserves to be murdered. A famous figure once advocated removing the plank from your own eye before removing the splinter in the other’s eye.

On a related note, one of his most famous followers is also quoted to have said, “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, male nor female, slave nor free…” So maybe we shouldn’t be obsessed with race or any other superficial division that continues to fuel conflict, make defense contractors richer, make tax payers poorer, and kill innocent humans.

The “other” in this case just recently blew up 12 kids on a soccer field in the Golan heights area. I think they’re pretty well understood at this point. I’m old enough to remember when they were complicit in the bombings of 241 US service members in Beirut in the early 80’s. That’s who they are.

We’re not gonna agree that Hezbollah terrorists should be eliminated, and that’s fine. But I absolutely stand on the side of thought that they should be.

 

[TerryP]

Before killing terrorists you must properly identify terrorism

While being accused of being quick to assumptions, as I see an assumption Israel didn't know they weren't terrorist.

 

[TerryP]

You have 72 virgins in heaven but you ain't got a dick.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

You have 72 virgins in heaven but you ain't got a dick.

Or, you’re stuck here and missing a right hand.

 

[Krimson]

And how accommodating for Bibi is that definition of “membership”:

“We know the victims were guilty and evil because we targeted them … and we targeted them because they were evil and guilty.”

Just like Bush wanted us to believe that anyone on his regime change list must be deserving of overthrowing. Just like the Biden Admin wants us to think that offensive strikes deeper and deeper into Russian territory is essential for our security all the way over here at home.

If you want to associate with terrorists these are the risks you take. If s father wants to be a terrorist, same.

 

[Krimson]

The “other” in this case just recently blew up 12 kids on a soccer field in the Golan heights area. I think they’re pretty well understood at this point. I’m old enough to remember when they were complicit in the bombings of 241 US service members in Beirut in the early 80’s. That’s who they are.

We’re not gonna agree that Hezbollah terrorists should be eliminated, and that’s fine. But I absolutely stand on the side of thought that they should be.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

If Israel is getting ready for an action against Hezbollah, no other type of bombardment would be as focused with less collateral damage than what has been achieved. 3,000 soldiers dead or incapacitated, whether hiding in a tunnel or not.

 

[Krimson]

If Israel is getting ready for an action against Hezbollah, no other type of bombardment would be as focused with less collateral damage than what has been achieved. 3,000 soldiers dead or incapacitated, whether hiding in a tunnel or not.

Hard not to have collateral damage when the cowards you're fighting don't identify themselves with uniforms and hide in schools and hospitals. Terrorists have no rules but some people still expect the military to fight a war against them the same way they would fight another military. Can't do it.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Tough week for Hezbollah. Collecting a lot of L’s…

 

[24and7]

Tough week for Hezbollah. Collecting a lot of L’s…

Hezzbolah/Islamic Jihad should have been our number one priority for elimination since 1983…Most likely would have never seen Al-Qaeda and Isis if we would’ve destroyed them…Reagan made the big mistake of not finishing off Iran, when the iron was hot..

 

[TerryP]

Not sure as to the validity, but...

Just getting back into reading about this. I'm still shaking my head.

 

[TerryP]

Alex, I'll take things that haven't happened for $1000.

That’s what I’m afraid of: your multitasking diminishing the quality of your arguments.

As soon as you see I won that category, it'll be $1000, Alex, for "Conversations you want to see and post things to see them."

 

[TerryP]

Logic must be informed to be useful. Uninformed logic results in non sequiturs. I’ve given you loads of supporting examples which weakens the merits of your assumption that had Washington known, it would have assuredly obstructed in some way. Rather than obfuscating, you might consider rebutting actual claims I’m making.

FWIW, I left a message asking Cheatle the same thing. No response yet.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

 

[24and7]

 

[musso]

Tough week for Hezbollah. Collecting a lot of L’s…

"The leisured classes in Great Britain, having most of their energy liberated from the necessity of work, naturally specialise on 'sport,' the hygienic necessity of a substitute for work helping to support or coalescing with the survival of a savage instinct. As the milder expressions of this passion are alone permissible in the sham or artificial encounters of domestic sports, where wild game disappears and human conflicts more mortal than football are prohibited, there is an ever stronger pressure to the frontiers of civilisation in order that the thwarted 'spirit of adventure' may have strong, free play." -- John Hobson, 1902

LOL...

"In great empires the people who live in the capital, and in the provinces remote from the scene of action, feel, many of them scarce any inconveniency from the war; but enjoy, at their ease, the amusement of reading in the newspapers the exploits of their own fleets and armies. To them this amusement compensates the small difference between the taxes which they pay on account of the war, and those which they had been accustomed to pay in time of peace. They are commonly dissatisfied with the return of peace, which puts an end to their amusement, and to a thousand visionary hopes of conquest and national glory, from a longer continuance of the war." -- Adam Smith, 1776

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

"The leisured classes in Great Britain, having most of their energy liberated from the necessity of work, naturally specialise on 'sport,' the hygienic necessity of a substitute for work helping to support or coalescing with the survival of a savage instinct. As the milder expressions of this passion are alone permissible in the sham or artificial encounters of domestic sports, where wild game disappears and human conflicts more mortal than football are prohibited, there is an ever stronger pressure to the frontiers of civilisation in order that the thwarted 'spirit of adventure' may have strong, free play." -- John Hobson, 1902


"In great empires the people who live in the capital, and in the provinces remote from the scene of action, feel, many of them scarce any inconveniency from the war; but enjoy, at their ease, the amusement of reading in the newspapers the exploits of their own fleets and armies. To them this amusement compensates the small difference between the taxes which they pay on account of the war, and those which they had been accustomed to pay in time of peace. They are commonly dissatisfied with the return of peace, which puts an end to their amusement, and to a thousand visionary hopes of conquest and national glory, from a longer continuance of the war." -- Adam Smith, 1776

"Killing terrorists is good. And sometimes funny."

--Brandon Van de Graaff, 2024

 

[musso]

Alex, I'll take things that haven't happened for $1000.



As soon as you see I won that category, it'll be $1000, Alex, for "Conversations you want to see and post things to see them."

While being accused of being quick to assumptions...

I never accused you of being quick to assumptions. Case in point, as I said, your multitasking harms your argumentation, as it would for most of us. Should I send you my Venmo for that $1K?

 

[24and7]

US Navy Oiler ran aground off Oman Coast.. Leaving the Abraham Lincoln striker group without a fueling ship..Court Martial offense I bet..