Justneedme81
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| CURRENT EVENTS Israel is about to unleash some hell...
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TerryP
Staff
Your conclusion is I don't care about Palestinian children. Pun intended, Jesus Fucking Christ.
I'm going to shift the subject, slightly, but the point remains.
I remember reading an article about Hamas putting weapons in a University...can't recall the name, but I could find it. This was a year, maybe more ago.
This University has been bombed: a year later. But the outcry is students being killed. I wholeheartedly agree. These deaths should not have happened.
But we could have had those discussions a year ago when they started putting weapons in schools, hospitals, apartment buildings.
You're not supporting the nation of Palestine here. You're supporting a terrorist group pretending to be Palestinian. Tell me where I'm wrong here.
'65 Cobra
Member
If you're aware of this, then why in all of your posts - where you clearly have very strong opinions - have you not condemned the British? If you really knew the modern history of the region, you would know that it ultimately falls back on the Brits playing both sides before, during, and just after WWI. But no vitriole against them? I mean you want to bring up the history of the ownership of the area, why do the Brits not even get a mention?
TerryP
Staff
In my dementia I love it when someone drops a point that requires thought.
Funny to me...pointing to Nigeria earlier.
ElephantStomp
Member
My last post on this thread because for whatever reason some of yall refuse to read what I write or you ignore it. It’s like yall close your damn eyes and just type some shit.
Jesus fucking Christ is right. I have said many many times in this damn thread that I DONT FUCKING SUPPORT Hamas, not sure what’s so damn difficult to grasp. But, I don’t support the genocide and senseless murder of innocent Palestinians no more than I support the senseless of murder of innocent Israelis.
'65 Cobra
Member
Respectfully, rather than cussing out others for their perception, perhaps look at yourself and consider that despite those specific words that you don't support them, your other words often sound like you do. Or don't care about others perceptions.
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Pro Israel Christians watch this & remember that Jews hate you as much as they hate Muslims.
footballer
Member
This could very well be the catalyst for WW111. Dare I mention the "N" word? A lot of the Obama admin and most of the Biden admin
has been geared toward war. Many steps have been taken to weaken our country. We are a bankrupt nation in many ways. So far in debt
we probably will never see daylight. Our economy is down the drain and we have rampant inflation. We borrow money hand over hand just to keep a defunct nation propped up, Ukraine. Send weapons to them that pass or are sold to terrorist that are used against innocents and maybe against us, if who ever is running our country decides that we should be more involved. Our military is weakened, our arms count is very low and our fighting forces are littered with fairies. We are producing very little of our own petroleum and our reserves are dangerously low; much has been sold abroad and some has been put into use here at home so Biden can take credit for somewhat lower gas prices at the pump. Obama fired or demoted many of the well established Generals from the military. Set up a deal with Iran so they could have nuclear weapons by 2024(?) I think, as well as giving them BILLIONS $ in cash, shipped over on pallets. Who the hell is running our nation? DS
has been geared toward war. Many steps have been taken to weaken our country. We are a bankrupt nation in many ways. So far in debt
we probably will never see daylight. Our economy is down the drain and we have rampant inflation. We borrow money hand over hand just to keep a defunct nation propped up, Ukraine. Send weapons to them that pass or are sold to terrorist that are used against innocents and maybe against us, if who ever is running our country decides that we should be more involved. Our military is weakened, our arms count is very low and our fighting forces are littered with fairies. We are producing very little of our own petroleum and our reserves are dangerously low; much has been sold abroad and some has been put into use here at home so Biden can take credit for somewhat lower gas prices at the pump. Obama fired or demoted many of the well established Generals from the military. Set up a deal with Iran so they could have nuclear weapons by 2024(?) I think, as well as giving them BILLIONS $ in cash, shipped over on pallets. Who the hell is running our nation? DS
ElephantStomp
Member
My words are pretty simple if a person chooses to read them.
I’ve not made one pro Hamas comment, I’ve said Palestinian and they’re not even close to the same
I read that you said Hamas and Israel were no different, they are one and the same. The calisthenics you've embarked upon to justify this are unsupportable. The Biden administration has said that Israel's military response, in terms of international observations, is one and the same as the United States. If you think Israel and Hamas are one and the same, and if you believe what the Biden administration has said, are they not three peas in a pod?
ElephantStomp
Member
I completely disagree with the Biden admin.
I’ve also said the only difference between the Israeli government and Hamas is one is white and one is brown and one is backed up by the US.
TerryP
Staff
And yet we still have a question unanswered. Where, when, and how did the Israeli government behead babies? Burn mothers? Kidnap children? When has Israel kidnapped grandmothers? There is no symmetry between Hamas and Israel.
I see a trend of violent radical behavior supported by academia. You know, the "scholars" you've pointed to in the past.
Another...if a group puts a missile compound inside of a day care how is another supposed to respond when they are getting bombed? It's much like the spokesman said yesterday..."if they're firing a missle from a kitchen, what am I supposed to do?"
If someone breaks into your house, kidnaps your children, how are you reacting?
TerryP
Staff
This is a confusing, and intriguing, comment.
If you look back over the dialogue between you and I you'll find a majority of my responses have been questions. Questions about how you feel, why you feel...
But you're also saying I'm just typing shit when questioning things you've said...which also naturally infers what you've said is shit, right?
Funny if true…
ElephantStomp
Member
There is symmetry between the two, you’re just blinded. The Israeli government has said they can’t confirm babies were beheaded. But, I’ve said I don’t agree with Hamas.
But, let me ask you’re upset and keep repeating the atrocious things Hamas has done, but you’re fine with what Israel has done for the last 40 years to Palestinian women and children, why?
If someone breaks into my house and kidnaps my children I’m not going after all the innocent people around me, huge difference.
You see a trend of academia supporting violent behavior huh? Let me guess it’s liberal institutions not places like Liberty and such?
ElephantStomp
Member
Yes that’s what I’m saying
You haven’t read one thing I’ve written or you just ignore it like I said.
You’ve stated several times I support Hamas no matter how many times I’ve said I don’t, so again you don’t read anything I write.
rueben
Member
Yeah, 6 Billion dollars worth of support.
Justneedme81
Member
To be fair, I don't think it's necessarily the readers who refuse to listen to you... I think it's a case of where you're refusing to listen to what you're saying and how it's coming across as if you're supporting Hamas. I showed the posts you've made to my wife and my mother in laws without providing background and they were appalled at what you were trying to say. You know the saying... "It's not you.. it's me." You should try saying that.Yes that’s what I’m saying
You haven’t read one thing I’ve written or you just ignore it like I said.
You’ve stated several times I support Hamas no matter how many times I’ve said I don’t, so again you don’t read anything I write.
'65 Cobra
Member
First, is the bolded statement some kind of racial/ethnic reference? I am a libertarian, but I have observed that inciting race seems to be a common fallback position of the left. Perhaps you should look up the ethnic history of Jews and Palestinians.
Justneedme81 is now the second person to challenge you to take a look at your own language and how it comes across. You have also accused many in this thread of being "blind" or "blinded." How often do you ask yourself the same question? Is it possible that you are blinded - even if just to some degree - by your own ideology?
Last, in another post, you demand that someone look at the last 40 years of history. Why stop at 40? There was no history before that? I challenged you in another post of mine on the question of why you haven't excoriated the Brits in all this? Do you really know the full history of all of this?
