ElephantStomp
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Saw both these tweets in a matter of a couple minutes. Make of them what you will…
Protesting for the rights of Palestinians isn’t pro terrorism…..
The first tweet is disgusting and she should be fired and charged
Saw both these tweets in a matter of a couple minutes. Make of them what you will…
Protesting for the rights of Palestinians isn’t pro terrorism…..
The first tweet is disgusting and she should be fired and charged
I’ve only seen a few protests and they were not that, so I apologizeA lot of the stuff I've seen on the campuses is more than just, "hey, Palestinians deserve rights!" A good bit of it is basically nothing more than Hamas pep rallies. In some ways, it reminds me of the, "we are just celebrating our southern heritage" group v. the "well yeah, we want the South to rise again [while burning a cross in the background]" group.
I’ve only seen a few protests and they were not that, so I apologize
On the verge of ignorance.Everything in this comment is ridiculous and on the verge of ignorance.
Go talk to a Palestinian and educate yourself man.
What they want is for your great white hope to leave them the fuck alone and not murder them daily. You talk about nazis, there’s only one group that’s acting like nazis and that’s the Israeli government and their military.
Two things- Go talk to a Palestinian and go compare how many innocent Israelis have been killed by Palestinians and the innocent Palestinians that have been killed by Israelis just since 2015.
Everything in this comment is ridiculous and on the verge of ignorance
You’re wrong about who I have and haven’t talked to. I’ve not been to the region, but my doctoral advisor and one of my research assistants are from Gaza, so I think they know a thing or two about being there
Right there.Now I'm not on either side in this. I think we as a country should not get involved at all. If we had our own country/borders/poverty under control then offer only humanitarian aid. I’m not defending or prosecuting either side to be honest, but I know how it is over there.
You and the nazi thing is funny. Your poor oppressed country has been oppressing and murdering people for over 40 years, but you continue to spout nazi this and nazi that and those poor Jews and all that. I feel terrible that innocent Jews were murdered at the hands of a terrorist organization, but your continued attitude that Israel in innocent is damn laughable.On the verge of ignorance.
Go talk to a Palestinian.
Educate yourself.
Good lord.
Only one group is acting like Nazi's when there's only one group that wants to eliminate Jews. I mentioned Amin al-Husseini a few days ago. A Palestinian leader meeting with Hitler. And I need to educate myself.
"Your great white hope" is hilarious. It reminds me of Obama and his "Hope and Change." He hoped he could settle things in the middle east with Iran and he did it with A LOT of change. Million$. And it's very likely that's the reason we're seeing this again...Biden killing sanctions against Iran. But, I'm only progressing here...
And you want me to educate myself.
If he doesn’t say anything you bitch, if says anything about it you bitch, good god pick a side man. You righties (or those of you that lean right) will find anything reason to complain about this admin. Get American prisoners out of Iran and you bitch, don’t get them out and you bitch, Create jobs and you bitch, don‘t and you bitch, my god it’s got to be exhausting for y’all. The absolute refusal to give any credit is asinine, even my left wing ass has given credit to the previous President (there isn’t much to give credit however)Right there.
Israel has enough on its hands right now. The only reason I see the administration over there is PR. Thank God he had his cue card. SMH.
The speech tonight? About what's going on in Israel and he turns it into begging for more money for Ukraine?
Saw a couple of videos last night of some of them and I whole heartedly disagree with them and think they’re ignorant. Although on the surface we agree they’re spewing antisemitic shit which I disagree withNo need for apology, it's just my perspective of it.
Unless I've missed something, after reading through all the pages in this thread, I probably agree mostly with @ElephantStomp while most of the criticism against him has been unfair, yet sadly predictable, especially in the evangelical South. I have so many thoughts to add. There are lots of news about this latest conflict that's missing in this thread that would make some Israel supporters think twice. Most people who are reflexively "pro-Israel against the world" and who never oppose US aid and intervention on its behalf, regardless of the costs denominated in taxes, increased inflation, and/or reprisals from the 2nd largest religion on the planet, are simply ill-suited to engage in a non-emotional debate. If you're an American living today, experiencing the decline of our standard of living, the deterioration of the family, the pricing of homes (ie the incubators of families) out of reach of increasing swaths of new home owners, witnessing the urban collapse in our greatest cities, and you still think more aid to a foreign country who continues to steal land from indigenous people and who caters to rabbis who literally think their race is supreme while calling all others disparaging names (ie goyim) ... well it's frankly hard to debate with such people.Ladies and Gentleman, let me tell you what's missing in this thread. @musso I'll laugh, and he's likely to say something that'll make me think for a second.
@ElephantStomp he takes a lot of words to say what he's thinking.
Musso, I am hoping the illness in your family gets better my friend. Hang in there.Unless I've missed something, after reading through all the pages in this thread, I probably agree mostly with @ElephantStomp while most of the criticism against him has been unfair, yet sadly predictable, especially in the evangelical South. I have so many thoughts to add. There are lots of news about this latest conflict that's missing in this thread that would make some Israel supporters think twice. Most people who are reflexively "pro-Israel against the world" and who never oppose US aid and intervention on its behalf, regardless of the costs denominated in taxes, increased inflation, and/or reprisals from the 2nd largest religion on the planet, are simply ill-suited to engage in a non-emotional debate. If you're an American living today, experiencing the decline of our standard of living, the deterioration of the family, the pricing of homes (ie the incubators of families) out of reach of increasing swaths of new home owners, witnessing the urban collapse in our greatest cities, and you still think more aid to a foreign country who continues to steal land from indigenous people and who caters to rabbis who literally think their race is supreme while calling all others disparaging names (ie goyim) ... well it's frankly hard to debate with such people.
Been dealing with a serious illness in the family for while now, but when I get a chance I'll share some content I think would provide a broader perspective.
Israel rules the West Bank with very little freedom and no Hamas…but they’re bombing it….
Speaking of terrorism and the killing of innocent men, women, and children….
Don’t you dare tell me Israel is the good side.
So you only care about the white victims of terrorism….got itIsrael's on the good side.
This thread has brought the worse out of people. The US and Israel have been allies for quite some time, Palestine, not so much. I highly doubt it Takes Eleven views this in the glasses you view. The bigotry is not my cup of tea, nor the implication that its a "white" thing. I understand your feelings for innocents being dragged into this. But my 2 cents we all should try to be more respectful to each other. I am done with this post. I hope for peace for all people's sake.So you only care about the white victims of terrorism….got it
Not going to hate on you at all.This thread has brought the worse out of people. The US and Israel have been allies for quite some time, Palestine, not so much. I highly doubt it Takes Eleven views this in the glasses you view. The bigotry is not my cup of tea, nor the implication that its a "white" thing. I understand your feelings for innocents being dragged into this. But my 2 cents we all should try to be more respectful to each other. I am done with this post. I hope for peace for all people's sake.
PS. I did see what you posted first also. You can hate on me but as I promised I will not post on this subject anymore.