| LIFE CV-19: Effects on life, work, and sports

[planomateo]

We're making lasagna tonight @RollllTide!

Went to the Frisco, TX Costco this morning. Had read they changed the hours to open at 8:30a, was not the case. They did open 30 minutes early at 9a, they had the carts lined up to help organize how people enter the store.

Inside the store, people were ok getting within the 6' distance, I was a little annoyed with some of the people.

As we left the store, there was still a long line. They appeared to be limiting the number of shoppers in the store at one time. The people checking receipts were standing behind plexiglass. Strange scene, wasn't like this the last time we visited a few weeks ago.

 

[JoshB]

Why do you think Jared Kushner is incompetent? What are you basing that on? I've never really looked into him to be honest. As far as I know, he's there to help the team, but people want to know what his qualifications are. If he can cut through the bullshit and get stuff done, then he's more than qualified in my book.

Nepotism, sure, but in this job, you need people you trust around you. Hell that's pretty much any job, you bring in your own people and set the direction.

I'm also wondering why a nationwide shelter in place order. I'm of the opinion we should have done this weeks ago, even said as much here. But not sure if the Fed has this ability, anybody know? I'll admit, I'm not versed in government bureaucracy and don't have any interest to be.

Well, the way he handled that was incompetent as hell lol But the word I was looking for was unqualified. He is unqualified for this and every other thing he has been put in charge of that he has absolutely accomplished nothing. There has been a fear from the start that Trump would ration out help to those states he sees as "allies" (something he has threatened in the past, "if you aren't nice to me we wont send disaster relief" that sort of thing) and Kushner's dipshit story about helping one of Trump's friends just boasts that fear.

I'm not sure but if they do it like Alabama's "shelter-in-place" then it would accomplish nothing anyway. It took me almost 20 minutes to type out all the exceptions and list of "essential" jobs yesterday.

https://www.alabamapublichealth.gov/legal/assets/soe-covid19-040320.pdf

 

[RollllTide!]

Well, the way he handled that was incompetent as hell lol But the word I was looking for was unqualified. He is unqualified for this and every other thing he has been put in charge of that he has absolutely accomplished nothing. There has been a fear from the start that Trump would ration out help to those states he sees as "allies" (something he has threatened in the past, "if you aren't nice to me we wont send disaster relief" that sort of thing) and Kushner's dipshit story about helping one of Trump's friends just boasts that fear.

I'm not sure but if they do it like Alabama's "shelter-in-place" then it would accomplish nothing anyway. It took me almost 20 minutes to type out all the exceptions and list of "essential" jobs yesterday.

https://www.alabamapublichealth.gov/legal/assets/soe-covid19-040320.pdf

Yea it is business as usual for most of us. We are exempt. We are a telecommunication company. I hate it for the bars and restaurants. They are hurting. I don't see the stay at home order being effective.

 

[#80]

Why do you think Jared Kushner is incompetent? What are you basing that on? I've never really looked into him to be honest. As far as I know, he's there to help the team, but people want to know what his qualifications are. If he can cut through the bullshit and get stuff done, then he's more than qualified in my book.

Nepotism, sure, but in this job, you need people you trust around you. Hell that's pretty much any job, you bring in your own people and set the direction.

I'm also wondering why a nationwide shelter in place order. I'm of the opinion we should have done this weeks ago, even said as much here. But not sure if the Fed has this ability, anybody know? I'll admit, I'm not versed in government bureaucracy and don't have any interest to be.

It's the states responsibility to issue shelter in place. About the only thing I know Kushner is competent in is being a shyster in a real estate deal.

 

[JoshB]

Yea it is business as usual for most of us. We are exempt. We are a telecommunication company. I hate it for the bars and restaurants. They are hurting. I don't see the stay at home order being effective.

It's really not. If this is how we were going to do it, personally I think they should have just left everything open and limit every store/business to no more than 10 customers in at a time, no matter how big. That would cut down on people going out just from the sheer annoyance of it all and it at least lets some of these small retail shops that are getting killed stay open.

 

[footballer]

Years ago we redid our front landscaping around the house. Pulled out all the bushes, bought .5 cubic yard of dirt/manure mix and another .5 cubic yard of mulch and had it dumped in the driveway.

At the very end of the project something trigger a reaction from my mast cell, was like my skin was on fire. Remember washing my hands at the faucet and the weird sensation. Figured it was something in the dirt or mulch that I had a response to. Ended up going to an allergist and he told me something had trigger my mast cell.

Many years ago, I read that anybody can develop any allergy at any time during their life.

 

[planomateo]

 

[JoshB]

Students at a medical school in Pittsburgh think they already have the vaccine.

COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate Shows Promise

A potential COVID-19 vaccine, delivered by microscopic needles, produces antibodies in mice. The next step is a human clinical trial.

www.upmc.com

 

[Rolltide24]

I haven’t seen enough from Josh to know if he’s more or less competent than Kushner. Time will tell. I’d need to see more from both regarding decision making. But I’ve already seen Kushner’s wife, hard to top that... and he’s got a pretty big bank account. So he’s made some decent decisions somewhere. I think his dad left him some real estate or helped him get started, but how many kids have we seen blow that deal up? Too many to list. I can’t fault Kushner, I just don’t have enough data. But I sure wouldn’t call him incompetent at this point. He’s got to be a pretty sharp guy.

 

[JoshB]

I haven’t seen enough from Josh to know if he’s more or less competent than Kushner. Time will tell. I’d need to see more from both regarding decision making. But I’ve already seen Kushner’s wife, hard to top that... and he’s got a pretty big bank account. So he’s made some decent decisions somewhere. I think his dad left him some real estate or helped him get started, but how many kids have we seen blow that deal up? Too many to list. I can’t fault Kushner, I just don’t have enough data. But I sure wouldn’t call him incompetent at this point. He’s got to be a pretty sharp guy.

I've already said I meant "unqualified." Just like he was unqualified to be the one in charge of "middle east peace" and he's also the guy that had his security clearance rejected about a dozen times because of how many conflicts of interest he has overseas only for the president to eventually override it.

His grandfather was a huge real estate mogul and his father is a crook and went to federal prison for corruption (tax evasion, witness tampering, etc.). His daddy bought his way into Harvard and then handed him his real estate company after he went to prison. He also bought a legitimate newspaper, turned it into a tabloid and then ran it into the ground. His story sounds very similar to someone else, except that he hasn't bankrupted dozens of companies.

He's about as qualified to handle middle east peace talks or how to handle emergency medical supplies during a pandemic as I am qualified to be a neurosurgeon... Then again, he's also about as qualified as a guy that didn't understand that the Department of Energy dealt with nuclear energy to be the Secretary of Energy or as qualified as a former surgeon to be the head of HUD or a woman who spent her entire life trying to gut public education in favor of private to be the Secretary of Education.

But sure, if you consider having a big bank account or a hot wife somehow being a measure of how competent you are at government, then well... okay...

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I deal with people every day who are in their position because someone advocated for them before they were fully qualified for the role. Some was nepotism, some good ole boy, some affirmative action/diversity hires. The key part of this is that they develop for the role. Josh, I'm not pro- or con- Kushner, but I'm pulling for those in the administration to gain core competence. Some never do that, some excel.

RTR,

Tim

 

[ElephantStomp]

Let me just say COVID-19 is NOTHING compared to the flu!! I’m on the uphill side of it, but I learned this....

1)This shit sucks

2) It’s much much much worse than the flu

3) I could give a detailed report on what COVID is like, but I don’t want to take up a shit load of time boring y’all to death about it, but anybody that thought it was/is anything like the flu you’re an idiot

 

[JoshB]

I deal with people every day who are in their position because someone advocated for them before they were fully qualified for the role. Some was nepotism, some good ole boy, some affirmative action/diversity hires. The key part of this is that they develop for the role. Josh, I'm not pro- or con- Kushner, but I'm pulling for those in the administration to gain core competence. Some never do that, some excel.

RTR,

Tim

I don't actively root for anyone to fail (other than Auburn), especially in a time like this but Im 100% in belief that this is just one of the many disasters of a decision (and could end up very bad if he is bad at his job). And I get that nepotism and "good ole boy" jobs go on in every phase of life but we're talking about the people and the positions that literally hold our country in the palm of their hands. We literally have nepotism laws in government but its just one of the many that gets ignored.

Let me just say COVID-19 is NOTHING compared to the flu!! I’m on the uphill side of it, but I learned this....

1)This shit sucks

2) It’s much much much worse than the flu

3) I could give a detailed report on what COVID is like, but I don’t want to take up a shit load of time boring y’all to death about it, but anybody that thought it was/is anything like the flu you’re an idiot

No, do. Explain what it's like. I have a friend that was diagnosed (a nurse) but was only tested after being exposed to someone that tested positive. She isn't showing symptoms at all yet (and maybe wont I guess).

 

[planomateo]

I read that India has an estimated 48,000 ventilators. Things could get really bad here with the multi-generational households and underlying health issues, diabetes in India is very high along with many other health issues.

 

[TerryP]

I've already said I meant "unqualified." Just like he was unqualified to be the one in charge of "middle east peace" and he's also the guy that had his security clearance rejected about a dozen times because of how many conflicts of interest he has overseas only for the president to eventually override it.

You're misrepresenting this, Josh.

I'll refer you to left leaning Politico ...

With that basic principle in mind, let’s first address what was actually done, or, more accurately, what was not done. Kushner’s clearance was not “denied” or “revoked.” A decision was not made that he was disqualified from handling Top Secret information but qualified to handle Secret information. And no, this had nothing to do with his financial dealings or frequent amendments of his paperwork (well, not directly at least, although they are likely responsible for the underlying delay).​

​

Here’s what really happened: Kushner, like many other Trump administration officials (and many new hires across the federal government under any administration), was granted an “interim” clearance while he was being investigated for a full clearance. It’s basically an abbreviated background check and temporary grant of access to classified information based on a prediction that he will ultimately receive a full clearance down the road. Even today, he still has an interim clearance, and they’re still processing him for a full clearance. The only difference is that he now has only interim access to Secret information, not Top Secret information or Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI)—a special type of information category that is slightly different than a Secret or Top Secret classification. But while he can ostensibly access only Secret information now, he is still being processed for a full Top Secret clearance with SCI access (colloquially called “TS/SCI”).​

 

[TerryP]

We literally have nepotism laws in government but its just one of the many that gets ignored.

Some states have nepotism laws, some states don't. When Carter was in the White House there were objections about his wife being appointed to an honorary position. They were advised no, based on a 1967 law, but ultimately she received the position.

A law written in 1978 overrules that 1967 law, according to Politico.

Again, I'm referring you to a left leaning publication here that goes against what you're suggesting applies to the President. Fact is, he can appoint anyone he wants just like he holds the right to fire and hire foreign diplomats.

DOJ releases overruled memos finding it illegal for presidents to appoint relatives

The legal opinion that cleared the way for Kushner and Ivanka Trump appointments reversed earlier advice.

www.politico.com

The opinion longtime Justice Department attorney Daniel Koffsky issued in January at the request of the incoming Trump administration concluded that another law, passed in 1978, conferredbroad authority on the president to appoint White House officials essentially overrides the earlier anti-nepotism measure.​

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"We believe that the President's special hiring authority [in the 1978 law] permits him to make appointments to the White House Office that the anti-nepotism statute might otherwise forbid," Koffsky wrote in the opinion sent to White House counsel Don McGahn at his request.​

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White House spokesman Raj Shah said the change in the law nearly three decades ago rendered the earlier opinions obsolete.​

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"These opinions were issued before the passage of a 1978 law specifically authorizing the President to make White House Office appointments ‘without regard to any other provision of law," Shah noted. "These legal opinions are therefore inconsistent with subsequent congressional enactments. Rather than reversing prior policy, the Administration is upholding the law as written today.”​

​

Nepotism Restrictions

 

[BamaFan334]

I don't actively root for anyone to fail (other than Auburn), especially in a time like this but Im 100% in belief that this is just one of the many disasters of a decision (and could end up very bad if he is bad at his job). And I get that nepotism and "good ole boy" jobs go on in every phase of life but we're talking about the people and the positions that literally hold our country in the palm of their hands. We literally have nepotism laws in government but its just one of the many that gets ignored.



No, do. Explain what it's like. I have a friend that was diagnosed (a nurse) but was only tested after being exposed to someone that tested positive. She isn't showing symptoms at all yet (and maybe wont I guess).

I'm not trying to be cute here, but with as much time as you do talking down about the elected leaders of this country and with as much research as you post about (whether it's true or not), why are you not doing more with your abilities? Instead of playing arm chair quarterback why aren't you stepping up to make a concerted effort to help everyone since the folks you talk about daily are incompetent, uncertified, underqualified, and just idiots as you have put it many times? I'll never understand how someone like you can be so uncomfortable with everything, yet make no effort to make changes other than typing it out on a forum. You seriously have not had one positive or encouraging thing to say. If you're so mad/upset, what are you doing to make things better?

 

[BamaFan334]

Let me just say COVID-19 is NOTHING compared to the flu!! I’m on the uphill side of it, but I learned this....

1)This shit sucks

2) It’s much much much worse than the flu

3) I could give a detailed report on what COVID is like, but I don’t want to take up a shit load of time boring y’all to death about it, but anybody that thought it was/is anything like the flu you’re an idiot

Yes, please share, because I'm sure this is directed at folks like me since I compared the two early on. Of course I meant more from a symptoms and mortality rate, but when you call folks idiots I'd like to know why.

 

[TerryP]

Let me ask you a question.

If someone has Covid-19 and another condition that may have contributed to their death, should it be reported as Covid-19?

Asking because I know we aren't linking these to Covid-19 deaths l, thus the numbers here in the US aren't potentially accurate either.

I don't think so. It's my belief it leads to some of the actions we've seen out of people who are panicking: the hoarding shoppers as one example.

The CDC numbers aren't as accurate as they'd have you to believe, in my opinion. An article I came across this weekend delves a little into the subject.

HUGE! From CDC Website: Hospitals to List COVID-19 as Cause of Death Even if It's "Assumed to Have Caused Or Contributed to Death" - Lab Tests Not Required | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

The Coronavirus crisis took the US by storm, spiking unemployment and crashing the stock market virtually over night.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[TerryP]

What point are you proving here? That what she said is extremely stupid? That would be your only point. Please tell me what your name is on Twitter, so I can make sure you don't have to be triggered by something I say on my personal social media, though.

I'm still laughing at this, Josh. I can't tell you why it strikes me as so funny, but nevertheless ...

Personal social media. Oxymoron, no? A public account labeled "personal" that's on a social website...leaves my head spinning a bit.