| LIFE CV-19: Effects on life, work, and sports

[50+yeartidefan]

A lot of American's can't, either.

If you don't have much if any room for error, how big should your car payment be? Should you have cable? Should you be living in a house that pushes your limit to an uncomfortable level BEFORE a crash happens?

I just don't understand how the govt is supposed to bail everyone out. Granted, I'd rather see checks go to the people than the corps... But I understand how it's all tied together.

I just think the answer is ultimately personal responsibility. No one is responsible for the virus and it's wreckage, but we're all responsible for our own overhead. I have a feeling that there's a lot of American's that don't quite understand the difference between needing and wanting (In many cases that is me as well)

You are on nail head there,.. i always lived on 90% of income early....80% later...50% now...put the other away...sometimes in investments....wasn’t easy sometimes.... paid off later..i hope...
Needing and wanting..hugh differences....
Right..no one is responsible for viru...but a lot could be responsible for spreading virus....another big difference

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Handouts. They slowly beat a majority of the population into debt through inflation and corporate deals, and then hand feed handouts to keep people dependent on them.

Dont understand that....... i think we have a level of personal responsibility....a big level....
I think handouts are responsible for keeping low level Americans in the low level range...( income)...sometimes very little motivation to help themselves....very little...
But again...personal responsibility... @mando the government likes control of the people....who they will vote for...and then they can control....

 

[BamaFan334]

Dont understand that....... i think we have a level of personal responsibility....a big level....
I think handouts are responsible for keeping low level Americans in the low level range...( income)...sometimes very little motivation to help themselves....very little...
But again...personal responsibility... @mando the government likes control of the people....who they will vote for...and then they can control....

Creates zero incentive to make more of yourself and work hard. If the government gives you handouts, why do anything more than necessary? Boom, then you get to a point in your life age wise where you can no longer make a decision to get educated and create a better life or future. So therefore the government has made you dependent and therefore owns your vote and mindset.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Creates zero incentive to make more of yourself and work hard. If the government gives you handouts, why do anything more than necessary? Boom, then you get to a point in your life age wise where you can no longer make a decision to get educated and create a better life or future. So therefore the government has made you dependent and therefore owns your vote and mindset.

We 100% on that....President Johnsons...”great society "....step one....

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Even those of us able to work at home full time are gonna get hit with this. Just announced a 20% pay cut at my company for at least 3 months. That is a huge hit for some of us.

 

[planomateo]

Even those of us able to work at home full time are gonna get hit with this. Just announced a 20% pay cut at my company for at least 3 months. That is a huge hit for some of us.

Better to lose pay and be employed. Guess state laws in Alabama allow that?

Weather the storm folks, could be a bad one.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Better to lose pay and be employed. Guess state laws in Alabama allow that?

Weather the storm folks, could be a bad one.

Not in Alabama, but it probably wouldn't matter in most states and the ones it would I think my company has cut as much staff as possible over the last 10 years.

EDIT: Also, compared to lots of companies, at least we are keeping our jobs. Some are just dumping people, furloughing them, and paying nothing at all.

 

[TerryP]

 

[JoshB]

Not in Alabama, but it probably wouldn't matter in most states and the ones it would I think my company has cut as much staff as possible over the last 10 years.

EDIT: Also, compared to lots of companies, at least we are keeping our jobs. Some are just dumping people, furloughing them, and paying nothing at all.

It's getting rough out there man.

 

[planomateo]

The POTUS just addressed the pork in the bill with regards to the Kennedy Center in today's briefing.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

The POTUS just addressed the pork in the bill with regards to the Kennedy Center in today's briefing.

Here are two summaries, one of the legislation by section, one for apportionments:

https://sites-communications.joneswalker.com/25/1396/uploads/division-a---cares-section-by-section.pdf

https://sites-communications.joneswalker.com/25/1396/uploads/division-b-appropriations-summary-final.pdf

 

[JoshB]

The POTUS just addressed the pork in the bill with regards to the Kennedy Center in today's briefing.

“It was $35 million but we took off 10, but I am a fan of that,” he said. “The Kennedy Center has suffered greatly because no one can go there. It is essentially closed. And they do need some funding. I said, ‘Look, that was a Democrat request. That was not my request. And I said, you have got to give them something. It is something that they wanted. The Democrats have treated us fairly.”

 

[planomateo]

I'm of the opinion at the moment the Kennedy Center should be getting zero dollars. Why do they need $25 million...

 

[RollllTide!]

He is a negotiator. You can catch more flies with honey. He said the democrats have treated us fairly. LOL

 

[It Takes Eleven]

“It was $35 million but we took off 10, but I am a fan of that,” he said. “The Kennedy Center has suffered greatly because no one can go there. It is essentially closed. And they do need some funding. I said, ‘Look, that was a Democrat request. That was not my request. And I said, you have got to give them something. It is something that they wanted. The Democrats have treated us fairly.”

Compared to other venues not located on the banks of the Potomac, it's not hurting, it just happens to be in DC. The Fox in Atlanta, Alabama Theatre, Blumenthal in Charlotte, The Strand/Atlanta Lyric in Marietta, etc. I could go on. Any place that lives hand to mouth with live performances is in a world of hurt right now. Between Bham and Atlanta, I hope we don't lose any of the excellent live music and performing arts venues. I have season tickets to the Fox, and they started by postponing some of the broadway shows, but they've reverted to cancelling them. Huge revenue losses.

RTR,

Tim

 

[It Takes Eleven]

He is a negotiator. You can catch more flies with honey. He said the democrats have treated us fairly. LOL

There's no honey until the flies are dried on the swatter. He runs the same playbook every time. He starts out with an attack and an untenable initial position. He then denies much of the key fact set. Then, when all seems lost, he gives in more than many would. Regardless of the final outcome, he claims victory and throws the other side a bone. But, enough about his business dealings...

 

[RollllTide!]

There's no honey until the flies are dried on the swatter. He runs the same playbook every time. He starts out with an attack and an untenable initial position. He then denies much of the key fact set. Then, when all seems lost, he gives in more than many would. Regardless of the final outcome, he claims victory and throws the other side a bone. But, enough about his business dealings...

Ha ha he makes democrats head explode

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Ha ha he makes democrats head explode

As a conservative, I was a little leery handing over something as precious as our constitutional republic to him. But, hey, I knew he'd treat it right...

 

[planomateo]

Kind of an interesting thought. If the Government forces people to stay home and not work, perhaps the Government should cover the cost of those incomes until the time is fit for them to return to work. I hadn't thought about it this way until very recently.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Kind of an interesting thought. If the Government forces people to stay home and not work, perhaps the Government should cover the cost of those incomes until the time is fit for them to return to work. I hadn't thought about it this way until very recently.

If that's the case, if the government forces someone to pay union dues and be represented by a union, and that union strikes against a company, the government should be on the hook for those lost wages, too. We could go down the rabbit hole of cause and effect, chain of events, all of the chaos makes perfect sense...

Very few living Americans have lived through a national crisis that required true sacrifice by the general population. Since the last time our nation has had to do so, there are many in uniformed and clandestine service who have voluntarily made the sacrifices, standing in the breach to prevent the nation from having to do so. I'm grateful for their, and your, service. It's time for the rest of us to suck it up. It's embarrassing to hear people complain about being inconvenienced for a few months while there are so many who have given lifetimes - or lives - giving their all of their own free will.

RTR,

Tim