šŸˆ Alabama officially releases new coaching staff

@Tidestalker,

A lot of people didn't like Kiffin using the jet sweep so much. Countless times we heard comments disagreeing with these play calls. But, that was his game plan. It was about getting the linebackers moving. A difference is there: game plan versus play calls.

I believe it's important to note that and consider it with Tosh. There is a difference here in the game plans and game calls.
 
@Tidestalker,

A lot of people didn't like Kiffin using the jet sweep so much. Countless times we heard comments disagreeing with these play calls. But, that was his game plan. It was about getting the linebackers moving. A difference is there: game plan versus play calls.

I believe it's important to note that and consider it with Tosh. There is a difference here in the game plans and game calls.

I loved the jet sweep... What a play it was.
 
Regarding the Lance Taylor guy... I see he’s the WR coach of our Panthers. That’s not something to list on a resume. Our best receiver this year was a RB. He was 2nd best last year in his rookie year as a RB. And a TE is arguably our second best reciever when healthy.

Something that might be overlooked. A huge key to Clemson’s success is keeping a strong DC for many years. I know we get tired of hearing his names in some games but he is a stud and must just refuse to leave Dabo. Hell, he’d have to get a huge head coaching offer to make more than what he’s making, but having him so long is huge.
 
ā€˜Where’s Dan?’: The story of Alabama football’s...
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A blowout national championship loss to Clemson may not have been the biggest shock Nick Saban got last week. Four days later in Tuscaloosa, Alabama was about to have its regular morning football staff meeting when Saban noticed someone was missing. ā€œHey, where’s Dan?ā€ Saban asked staffers, according to people with knowledge of the meeting, in reference to Dan Enos, the Tide’s quarterbacks coach who had just been promoted to become Alabama’s new offensive coordinator... Saban was counting on Enos as Alabama would again have to navigate a staggering amount of staff turnover, even by Saban standards.​
But when Alabama lost Clemson last week in a fashion unlike any Saban-coached Crimson Tide team, the defense under the first-year coordinator Lupoi took plenty of the blame... No one seemed to remember that Alabama began the season with only three returning starters on defense, that it had lost its top six DBs to the NFL, its top pass rusher Terrell Lewis to injury and its top cover man Diggs at midseason. It was a group that had to face four of the top seven offenses in the FBS — two more than Alabama faced in the previous three years combined.
One of the O-line coaches on Saban’s wish list, people familiar with the matter say, was Jeff Stoutland, Alabama’s line coach in 2011 and 2012. Stoutland, now on the Philadelphia Eagles staff, loves Saban but not the schedule that comes with returning to Alabama and becoming a college coach again, according to a person with knowledge of the situation. The reality is there is more of a grind coaching at the college level than in the NFL, which does not tie its coaches to recruiting 52 weeks of the year.​
In reality, there are three kinds of staff departures in Sabanland. The first is getting a bigger job. Of those 10 future head coaches, Kiffin, Smart, Pruitt, McElwain and Locksley all left to run their own shop. Gattis would fit in this category as well, because he gets the chance to call plays for Michigan.​
The second type seems to be unique to Alabama, where some assistants leave for seemingly lateral or lesser jobs. Several of those are coaches who get nudged out or are encouraged to find other jobs. And Saban is well-connected and respected enough to help facilitate interview opportunities. In addition, having Alabama on a rĆ©sumĆ© and being exposed to Saban’s ā€œProcessā€ makes assistants a lot more marketable. A few of those 10 former assistants who later landed head coaches jobs fit in this spot.​
The third type seems to be a much less common situation: An assistant decides life — and his career — is better served elsewhere, which apparently was the case for Dan Enos.​
The meticulous way Saban runs the Alabama program has become well known in football circles. It’s the grind of all grinds. After the Tide lost to Clemson on Jan. 7, the team spent the entire next day traveling back cross-country from California and didn’t arrive home until late Jan. 8. The staff had to be in for a 9 a.m. meeting the following day. One coach with knowledge of the schedule reasoned that in Saban’s mind that was giving everyone a little break because he didn’t schedule it for 90 minutes earlier.​
One ex-Alabama assistant said Saban’s reputation is almost so notorious that he found working for him was not anywhere as rough as he heard it was going to be. But added that the 67-year-old head coach ā€œlacks a real personal relationship with the people he works with. It just feels like a business relationship.ā€ Another former Tide assistant said he thinks coaches have a much better relationship with Saban after they’ve worked at Alabama than when they are there.​
Videos of Saban ripping assistants during games have gone viral, but some former Tide staffers say it’s more the day-to-day existence that wears on them.​
ā€œYou can deal with getting ripped on the sidelines because that’s emotion during the game,ā€ says one former Alabama coach. ā€œThat’s way easier to deal with. That’s a couple of times a year. It’s just the non-stop for no reason stuff. When you’re there, then you realize how bull shite it is because it’s like scheduled. Like he’s going to bitch about the same shite on Sept. 6, or on the third day of camp, that he does every single year. It’s like it’s in his notes. So you realize that it’s not really just something that came up.ā€​
In the eyes of many around the sport, that level of achievement in the face of the coaching turnover is one of the most impressive aspects of the Alabama program. ā€œIt’s one thing to have the unheard of success he’s having with the number of championships, but to be able to do it with new coaches each year is unbelievable, because I know for us at Clemson, the stability that we have is part of our success and I think it would be very difficult with a lot of turnover,ā€ Clemson co-offensive coordinator Jeff Scott said. ā€œProbably one of the biggest accomplishments in my opinion that Coach Saban has had is keeping that high level of success even with coaches leaving for other opportunities.ā€​
That fact also wows one of Saban’s former assistants. ā€œHe turns over six assistants and still plays in the national title game. He thrives and does his best in what everybody else would perceive as chaos. His ability to function within that is phenomenal. I think the world of the guy,ā€ the assistant said.​
 
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Regarding the Lance Taylor guy... I see he’s the WR coach of our Panthers. That’s not something to list on a resume. Our best receiver this year was a RB. He was 2nd best last year in his rookie year as a RB. And a TE is arguably our second best reciever when healthy.

Something that might be overlooked. A huge key to Clemson’s success is keeping a strong DC for many years. I know we get tired of hearing his names in some games but he is a stud and must just refuse to leave Dabo. Hell, he’d have to get a huge head coaching offer to make more than what he’s making, but having him so long is huge.


All that Dabo keeps his coaching staff is BS. What they should say NOBODY other than their DC has been offered a HC position and even their DC has only had offers from the little sisters of the poor.

Do you think Nick could keep Kirby,Locks and Pruitt from going from 1.5 million to 3.5 million just because they like Nick? I am sure a position coach at Clemson will stick with Dabo instead of increasing doubling there salary but 1st they have to get an offer. Nick had no problem taking Chris Rump from the fighting Dabo's when Bo leave T-town.
 
From a friend of the family:

Here’s what I’ve heard concerning the coaches.

Locksley

A guy that was well liked all the way around and respected esp by players. A guy who was brought in for Saban coach rehab with a plan to be a HC again. He is in that position. The guy gave a lot to the program and you couldn’t ask for more especially after the death of his son and another playing QB at another school. He helped alot with the QB situation this past season. He was professional about trying to bring along assistants. Although, he hasnt tried to flip the 2 Maryland commits we have, I wouldnt be shocked if he did.

Enos

Guy never really fit in. Was the 'know-it-all' type who felt he knew more than guys like Locksley, Gattis, Butch etc. Tua and Jalen werent definitely not fond of him. He was so full of himself he didnt know this. You can tell some games Tua was seconds away from shedding he christian image on the sidelines with Enos. He may have felt a way because Locksley consulted Butch much more than Enos. Locksley would invite the offensive players and staff over on Thursdays and a lot of times it was just Locksley, Butch and the players. Enos was defacto OC, not official. Enos wanted full control over the offense and the offensive staff and bring in his guys. Saban said NO f-in way. Enos said f- it and left like a thief in the night. Rumor has it, he told Diaz he could get Jalen to come and part of how he got the job, but little did he know Jalen went to Miami to visit but never was coming so he played a bit. Part of why Butch stayed is because Enos left, no way he was working under Enos on offense. The whole Tua and Jalen improved so much because of Enos is fake news. It was more the work the 2 put in and the awesome WRs we have.

Gattis
A young bright ambitious coach that Saban was fond of and told him he could get him to where he wanted to be which is head coach. Gattis worked well with the WRs and the players responded well to him. He was huge in the RPO offensive plays but I think he felt he deserved more credit for it and at least the Co-OC title instead of it going to Enos. Enos didnt want to share the OC position. Saban was cool with him going to Maryland because that was keeping it in the 'family' but was pissed about him going to Michigan for what Saban felt was a lateral move. Im assuming Gattis feels like he can get the same prestige working under Harbaugh.

Tosh Lupoi
Tosh convinced Saban he was ready for the DC position but as the season went on it became a case of him not seeing certain things with the defense, adjustments etc. Especially in the secondary. Which is understandable because hes never really coached the secondary. Word is Saban told him the truth about how he felt about his development and that he wasnt ready. Tosh will get to focus on coaching in the NFL and not have to recruit. Hopefully this will be a positive for him.

Golding
Like Gattis, a bright young coach that Saban is fond of. His family likes Ttown and UA. It is true, a lot of the coverages he called later in the year because he could see things from the booth, that Tosh couldn't. However, word is his first year as ILB coach wasnt as effective. This was the first time hes ever coached LBs and it didnt go as planned. Not saying hes the blame for Mack and Moses not having the type of years they were expected to, but I dont think they helped.
 
A late addition to the above.

Not sure what direction Saban goes now. He wants a proven DC or at least a former DC that can coach a position and Co-DC with Golding. Sal Sunseri has spoke with Saban but likes his gig at UF. I will say that Saban thinks very highly of Golding...and Pete has a very bright future ahead of him but is he ready to be given the keys to the car? I don’t think Saban is 100% confident in that but it is a possibility.
 
From a friend of the family:

Here’s what I’ve heard concerning the coaches.

Locksley

A guy that was well liked all the way around and respected esp by players. A guy who was brought in for Saban coach rehab with a plan to be a HC again. He is in that position. The guy gave a lot to the program and you couldn’t ask for more especially after the death of his son and another playing QB at another school. He helped alot with the QB situation this past season. He was professional about trying to bring along assistants. Although, he hasnt tried to flip the 2 Maryland commits we have, I wouldnt be shocked if he did.

Enos

Guy never really fit in. Was the 'know-it-all' type who felt he knew more than guys like Locksley, Gattis, Butch etc. Tua and Jalen werent definitely not fond of him. He was so full of himself he didnt know this. You can tell some games Tua was seconds away from shedding he christian image on the sidelines with Enos. He may have felt a way because Locksley consulted Butch much more than Enos. Locksley would invite the offensive players and staff over on Thursdays and a lot of times it was just Locksley, Butch and the players. Enos was defacto OC, not official. Enos wanted full control over the offense and the offensive staff and bring in his guys. Saban said NO f-in way. Enos said f- it and left like a thief in the night. Rumor has it, he told Diaz he could get Jalen to come and part of how he got the job, but little did he know Jalen went to Miami to visit but never was coming so he played a bit. Part of why Butch stayed is because Enos left, no way he was working under Enos on offense. The whole Tua and Jalen improved so much because of Enos is fake news. It was more the work the 2 put in and the awesome WRs we have.

Gattis
A young bright ambitious coach that Saban was fond of and told him he could get him to where he wanted to be which is head coach. Gattis worked well with the WRs and the players responded well to him. He was huge in the RPO offensive plays but I think he felt he deserved more credit for it and at least the Co-OC title instead of it going to Enos. Enos didnt want to share the OC position. Saban was cool with him going to Maryland because that was keeping it in the 'family' but was pissed about him going to Michigan for what Saban felt was a lateral move. Im assuming Gattis feels like he can get the same prestige working under Harbaugh.

Tosh Lupoi
Tosh convinced Saban he was ready for the DC position but as the season went on it became a case of him not seeing certain things with the defense, adjustments etc. Especially in the secondary. Which is understandable because hes never really coached the secondary. Word is Saban told him the truth about how he felt about his development and that he wasnt ready. Tosh will get to focus on coaching in the NFL and not have to recruit. Hopefully this will be a positive for him.

Golding
Like Gattis, a bright young coach that Saban is fond of. His family likes Ttown and UA. It is true, a lot of the coverages he called later in the year because he could see things from the booth, that Tosh couldn't. However, word is his first year as ILB coach wasnt as effective. This was the first time hes ever coached LBs and it didnt go as planned. Not saying hes the blame for Mack and Moses not having the type of years they were expected to, but I dont think they helped.

My first big takeaway from that, @TerryP, is that Locks consulted a lot with Butch, as I suspected early in the season.
 
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Dan Enos leaving in an unprofessional manner doesn't bother me about CNS. I couldn't work for an over demanding micro managing boss In my career one time and I resigned. He was at my home before I got there and apologized and talked me back into not leaving. Our relationship was great after that.
Where is Dan Enos balls. In his golf bag with all that cash. Miami thugs deserve you and your neck chain of gold.

Saban dodged a bullet.
 
Not that it matters since these guys are gone but

1- Did Mike offer Gattis the OC position at Maryland? If so and Gattis was telling Nick he was taking the promotion and money then I wonder why Nick was mad about that upgrade?

2-Did Nick offer Enos the OC position before Danny hopped the Greyhound to Miami?

3-Did Nick attempt to upgrade the salary of Key in order to keep him at Bama or did he just let the guy go?

4-If Nick had taken the DC away from Tosh the later part of the year then it sounds like Pete might have shite the bed himself making the calls in addition he was the guy coaching those two ILBers thus the problem still exist and we've lost a recruiter as well.

I am wishing Tosh and his family all the best. This kind of reminds you have those at the U of A that move Mike Dubose two seats out of his ability. JMO but not only was Mike not a HC he wasn't a DC either. Now he was a super DL coach. I believe Tosh just might be in the same mold as a really good position coach and great recruiter.
 
@Tidestalker A bit more on Lake...

I mentioned yesterday that I'd surfed around a few Washington sites just to see what their beat writers were saying about the possible move to Bama. I didn't spend a lot of time looking around last night, but did catch one thing I thought was amusing.

Kim Grinolds was one of the founders and runs the Washington site http://Dawgman.com

He's said he's heard from four different sources that Lake was in town interviewing. We know that's true. I've seen it suggested he has met with Saban more than once. I was amused when he also went on to say that out of these four sources one said "he'd taken the Bama job," while another has confirmed "he was offered." A third source told him "Lake had turned down the job." And, evidently the fourth guys said "I don't know if he said no to Bama or not."

How's that for a fan site keeping their members up to date with the latest news? :cool:

Yes.
No.
Maybe.
And an I don't know.

Now, as a Bama fan, how much more do you know now versus when you started reading this post? :oops:

FWIW, I had it suggested that we need to pay attention to what happens with Lake today. It wasn't from someone I know well, but one who seems to have a least a grasp on what's been going on in the Moore complex.
 
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