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Bama isn't going to break the bank for anyone. They have to stick to their philosophy. You can't spend most of budget on one player.

Ole miss and Texas Tech broke the bank and brought in all those players and didn't make it to championship. Indiana didn't break the bank and now playing on Monday for championship.

Seaton is very very good player and would love to have him on our team but it's unrealistic as hell be asking for money outside the budget.

Texas is killing the portal but this going to be interesting with all those "me first " attitudes they got coming in and how they'll make chemistry work. I would rather staff to focus on building the roster full of people who's ready to go to work and earn their money.
 
Bama isn't going to break the bank for anyone. They have to stick to their philosophy. You can't spend most of budget on one player.

Ole miss and Texas Tech broke the bank and brought in all those players and didn't make it to championship. Indiana didn't break the bank and now playing on Monday for championship.

Seaton is very very good player and would love to have him on our team but it's unrealistic as hell be asking for money outside the budget.

Texas is killing the portal but this going to be interesting with all those "me first " attitudes they got coming in and how they'll make chemistry work. I would rather staff to focus on building the roster full of people who's ready to go to work and earn their money.
Mark Cuban would like a word with you. šŸ˜› They gave Mendoza over 2 million, hard to break the bank when you have a billionaire backing the program.
 
I think it’s been both in equal measure. I agree with your assessment about the scheme. But for better and for worse, our DL has been of the shorter, stockier variety. We’ve missed ideal length and wingspan which is useful to catch ball carriers running by.
That's not how I remember the defense issue.
The issue is that DL could be shooting into right gaps and get pushed around by OL and then you would have the lb not setting edge properly.

To me it's not the system, but rather poor execution by the players due to their limitations physically. So yes, we need to recruit DL players who can get off block quicker and more powerful.
 
Bama isn't going to break the bank for anyone. They have to stick to their philosophy. You can't spend most of budget on one player.

Ole miss and Texas Tech broke the bank and brought in all those players and didn't make it to championship. Indiana didn't break the bank and now playing on Monday for championship.

Seaton is very very good player and would love to have him on our team but it's unrealistic as hell be asking for money outside the budget.

Texas is killing the portal but this going to be interesting with all those "me first " attitudes they got coming in and how they'll make chemistry work. I would rather staff to focus on building the roster full of people who's ready to go to work and earn their money.
I beg to differ. The narrative has been Cignetti is the talent whisperer, and he's been winning with underachievers. Yes, he brought JMU guys with him in year one, but look at year two. He had to have the money to close the deals for the current team, including over $2 million for Mendoza alone, not sure what he paid for the OL from ND, OSU and Colorado, WRs from Michigan, Arizona, Cal, TEs from Tennessee and Wisconsin, and so on. Some reports have Indiana's football payroll as high as $40 million.

Someone mentioned not being able to compete with oil money. Everyone is competing against Mark Cuban at Indiana. That $3.5 billion he made on the sale of his controlling interest in the Mavs must be burning a hold in his pocket. Plus, the NBA may be the closest proxy to the current state of college football.
 
For a quarterback yes but anyone else?
Center: Pat Coogan from ND.
OL: Carter Smith (not a transfer) but got an NIL deal to stay.
And next year: Ranked 4th in the portal class.
Josh Hoover from TCU
Nick Marsh from Mich State
Turbo Richard from Boston College


Mark Cuban revealed his latest Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) donation to Indiana University's football program was substantial enough to buy Kilroy's on Kirkwood, a popular off-campus bar in Bloomington.
While the specific dollar amount of the donation has not been publicly disclosed, Cuban has described it as a "big number" and indicated the recipients "are happier this year than last year"

To believe Indiana went from one of the worst programs in the history of D1 football to a powerhouse in 2 years just because of hard work and sweat would be naive, imo. I don't believe their success and the NIL deals happening at the same time are coincident. They have a huge bankroll now and it's legal to use it.
 
We can clearly see UA is non-competitive from an NIL standpoint with the top-tier teams. We are probably more in the 10-20 ranking I bet. This will eventually show up in our ability to compete with the top tier NIL teams.

The brand means nothing. NFL prep means very little. We’re just another university now with limited NIL.
 
We can clearly see UA is non-competitive from an NIL standpoint with the top-tier teams. We are probably more in the 20-30 ranking I bet. This will eventually show up in our ability to compete with the top tier NIL teams.

The brand means nothing. NFL prep means very little. We’re just another university now with limited NIL.
It already is.
 
We can clearly see UA is non-competitive from an NIL standpoint with the top-tier teams. We are probably more in the 20-30 ranking I bet. This will eventually show up in our ability to compete with the top tier NIL teams.

The brand means nothing. NFL prep means very little. We’re just another university now with limited NIL.

UA is higher than 20th, but the issue is the top tier schools 1-6 or so (maybe more depending on the year), have so much money that they don't really have to worry with being careful with it. Bama is very competitive overall and pays very well, but UA isn't going to egregiously overpay for a player like some others can (and will). Even at times when Bama can win a bidding war, they don't push it. They stick to their strategy and budget (which again, is very competitive and more than fair in both football and basketball).

Hopefully, down the road when the breakaway from the NCAA happens, some smart people will figure out a way to make it even across the board in terms of roster money and cheaters will actually be held accountable and punished, like they would be in the NFL or other professional leagues.
 
UA is higher than 20th, but the issue is the top tier schools 1-6 or so (maybe more depending on the year), have so much money that they don't really have to worry with being careful with it. Bama is very competitive overall and pays very well, but UA isn't going to egregiously overpay for a player like some others can (and will). Even at times when Bama can win a bidding war, they don't push it. They stick to their strategy and budget (which again, is very competitive and more than fair in both football and basketball).

Hopefully, down the road when the breakaway from the NCAA happens, some smart people will figure out a way to make it even across the board in terms of roster money and cheaters will actually be held accountable and punished, like they would be in the NFL or other professional leagues.

I was joking earlier when I said use DeBoer's buyout money, but now to your comment it actually makes good sense.

Why would you be willing to pay a coach $60-80M to leave instead of investing that into players that can win with a good coach, keep the fans happy, and keep the coach on the sidelines without just throwing buyout money away? Call it Buy-In money. Atleast you can wrap your mind around "value" there rather than an AD making a bad decision and costing everyone tens of millions.
 
So while Indiana is spending very large this year. Last year they spent much more frugal in the portal. Indiana will have to keep lightning in a bottle though, because a lot of their production and people are about to leave this year for the NFL.

It's similar to Clemson's "Dynasty" if you can even call it that, where things were just perfect until replacing Coordinators and replacing Pieces catch-up to them and they fall on their face again. I think NIL is going to make them perennially a good team, but what happens if someone poaches their DC and OC? Or OL Coach? Cignetti is a great talent evaluator and he's got a few on staff who can do that as well. Question is, how much of the talent development is the staff? The play calling? Could be similar to the Venables situation where as soon as the guy propping up the team leaves whether it's the OC or the DC (DC IMO) can Indiana find a replacement to sustain that level of success?

I'd say you saw similar NIL Dynasty under Ohio State in the previous year, they went all-in and won the whole thing. Now they aren't as put together, and their OC just left. We've seen this scenario a lot in the last 25 years, people rise, become good, but staying on top is a hard thing to do with $$, Oregon has more than anyone likely out there and they've not won a championship...you need the right mixture of $$ with talent, development, and coaching. I think Bama can develop very well, we can get the talent from recruiting. The issue is retention, can we find the right pieces to retain and the right coaches to stick with...anyways.

Portal Developments:

Bama is expected to be after a few DL people this week and likely after some Veteran OL pieces as well as some depth pieces. I expect us to find our answer on the RB side. I think they may just stick with who we have going into this year.

Loved the pick-up of Lorcann Quinn, likely spells the end for Connor Talty. Quinn is a Freshman and could possibly be our guy for the next 3-4 years. He's a little raw still but with some refinement I expect good things there.

Ty Haywood - talked more about this guy again, can't say enough. I think he's going to be a day 1 starter for us, I know others are not optimistic but I believe he's good enough to warrant it.

Noah Rodgers - Depth WR piece to go along with the eventual starting 4 of Williams, Brooks, Scott, and Rodgers. Not a bad pick-up, upside and talent was there when he was recruited, maybe needs a change of scenery?

Bingley-Jones - Depth IDL piece, I believe we see him as a replacement for Tim Keenan in the middle, he has less mass but more maneuverability in the trenches and quickness.

Dead Period is still in effect today, but we should be back and good to go Wednesday or Thursday with visits. I know Bama has reached out to a few more DL possibilities along with Damon Wilson.

The BIGGEST thing right now is finding out what the final NFL Draft guys are gonna do. Will Pierre return? Will Saab Return? I'm fairly certain both will return this next year. I think Damon Wilson is worth it, but I don't know that the asking price again will be something we wanna pay. Miami is another school that will just drop a bag to win a player they want.

NIL needs regulation, but the schools that are currently able to spend in the 50-75 million range every year aren't going to want it because it makes the playing field much more even across the board. We've been screaming for years that we need a new governing body that is allowed to enforce rules on these people, puts cheaters in their place and keeps everyone "playing nice".

Lots to do today, hope this information helps everyone for now. Sorry I don't have much more this week is brutal for me I won't have as much free time or time to chat with people.
 
Like it or not, Auburn is backed by the richest, and only billionaire in the state (Yeller Feller). Look for them to start making some more of these big NIL deals in the near future. They just paid Byrum Brown 4.4 million along with getting 12 other players from UCF. Sound familiar? Cignetti + JMU in year 1. I'm not saying they'll pull an Indiana, but they seem to be following the same playbook. Next year will show signs if it's successful for them or not.
 
I was joking earlier when I said use DeBoer's buyout money, but now to your comment it actually makes good sense.

Why would you be willing to pay a coach $60-80M to leave instead of investing that into players that can win with a good coach, keep the fans happy, and keep the coach on the sidelines without just throwing buyout money away? Call it Buy-In money. Atleast you can wrap your mind around "value" there rather than an AD making a bad decision and costing everyone tens of millions.
Hiring a HC that is in demand is a death wish for the AD. That coach is going to demand and set the terms of the buyout and not the AD. You would think a 5-year deal at 11 million per year and a 3-year buyout of 30 million would be enough. Trying to get both sides with skin in the game is impossible on the so-called top candidates.

Does Kalen's contract have the clause to where when he gets another gig then those dollars subtract from what is owed? That has to happen as well as paying the owed amount in payments until complete. If those terms can't be met, then you might want to reconsider your candidate.
 
Like it or not, Auburn is backed by the richest, and only billionaire in the state (Yeller Feller). Look for them to start making some more of these big NIL deals in the near future. They just paid Byrum Brown 4.4 million along with getting 12 other players from UCF. Sound familiar? Cignetti + JMU in year 1. I'm not saying they'll pull an Indiana, but they seem to be following the same playbook. Next year will show signs if it's successful for them or not.
Got to remember that Freeze was paying very well. They just lost the entire QB room so those dollars for the 3 that left the program would be equal or more to what they're paying Brown so that is a wash on their checkbook. Now they have to go find some backups.

Charles Barkley said he is not paying players shit because they are gone in less than a year.
 
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