| FTBL 2023-24 COACHING CAROUSEL UPDATE

Teams​	OUT​	In​	ANALYSIS​
TAMU​	Jimbo Fisher​	Mike Elko​	Fisher was fired after posting a 45-25 record in six seasons with the Aggies. He's owed over $77 million to be paid out through 2021.​
Michigan St.​	Mel Tucker (cause)​	Jonathan Smith​	Tucker was fired in September amid allegations of sexual harassment. He was 20-14 in four seasons with the Spartans.​
Miss State​	Zach Arnett​	Jeff Lebby​	Arnett was fired after posting a 5-6 record with the Bulldogs in his first full season after taking over for the late Mike Leach.​
Northwestern​	Pat Fitzgerald (cause)​	David Braun​	Fitzgerald was dismissed after an investigation revealed a culture of hazing within the program. He was 110-101 in 17 seasons leading the Wildcats.​
Boise​	Andy Avalos​	​	Avalos was let go after 10 games in the 2023 season. He was 22-14 in three seasons leading the Broncos.​
SDSU​	Brady Hoke (retired)​	Sean Lewis​	Hoke was 39-30 in two stints with Aztecs (2009-10, 2020-23). He was 104-90 overall as a head coach with stops at Ball State (2003-08), Michigan (2011-14) and as an interim coach at Tennessee (2017).​
Syracuse​	Dino Barber​	Fran Brown​	Babers, 62, has been at Syracuse for eight seasons, posting an overall record of 41-55 with two bowl appearances.​
New Mexico​	Danny Gonzales​	​	Fired​
Indiana​	Tom Allen​	Curt Cignetti​	Fired​
Duke​	Mike Elko​	​	Elko hired at TAMU​
UL Monroe​	Terry Bowden​	​	Fired, just like his Dad​
Houston​	Dana Holgorsen​	​	​
MTSU​	Rick Stockstill​	​	​
UC Davis​	Dan Hawkins​	​	​
Oregon St​	Jonathan Smith​	Trey Bray​	​
Indiana	Curt Cignetti​

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

I guess this is an opportune time for, "that's what she said."

More like, that's what I said.

 

[Justneedme81]

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

I think he's a good coach, but he'd be a risk if they decided to hire him. Unknown what he'd be able to do at that level of college football. If they use what he's been able to accomplish at Utsa as an indication, they might pull the trigger on him.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I think he's a good coach, but he'd be a risk if they decided to hire him. Unknown what he'd be able to do at that level of college football. If they use what he's been able to accomplish at Utsa as an indication, they might pull the trigger on him.

He's a perfect fit though... extremely well respected in the state at the HS level and understands the weird Aggie culture. Doesn't mean it would work out, but it would already be a giant step in the right direction.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

He's a perfect fit though... extremely well respected in the state at the HS level and understands the weird Aggie culture. Doesn't mean it would work out, but it would already be a giant step in the right direction.

Like I said, I think he's a good coach. I just think it's a very big risk for A&M to hire him. This is an important hire for their program moving forward. Taking a chance on Traylor, and him not panning the way they wanted would potentially set them back even further than they are now. Again, he's been successful at Utsa, and has them winning consistently every year.... I just think that it's a bold move for a program that expects to win national championships(not sure why they do).

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

He's a perfect fit though... extremely well respected in the state at the HS level and understands the weird Aggie culture. Doesn't mean it would work out, but it would already be a giant step in the right direction.

I've said it before, but if they're gonna take a chance on a coach.... I believe it should be Schumann. He's been around two defensive masterminds who have built elite programs, he's been a great DC these last two years, he develops his position group the best out of all the other programs in the country(for now/let's go Bala!!!), and can recruit his ass off. If they want a national championship level program, why not go after the guy that's been around that level his entire career? I swear to God if Mississippi State ends up getting him, I'm gonna burn that whole state to the ground.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I've said it before, but if they're gonna take a chance on a coach.... I believe it should be Schumann. He's been around two defensive masterminds who have built elite programs, he's been a great DC these last two years, he develops his position group the best out of all the other programs in the country(for now/let's go Bala!!!), and can recruit his ass off. If they want a national championship level program, why not go after the guy that's been around that level his entire career? I swear to God if Mississippi State ends up getting him, I'm gonna burn that whole state to the ground.

I doubt Kirby would advise him to take the MSU job, even if offered. Would be a huge gamble for him, and I think a lot of him.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Like I said, I think he's a good coach. I just think it's a very big risk for A&M to hire him. This is an important hire for their program moving forward. Taking a chance on Traylor, and him not panning the way they wanted would potentially set them back even further than they are now. Again, he's been successful at Utsa, and has them winning consistently every year.... I just think that it's a bold move for a program that expects to win national championships(not sure why they do).

I hear ya. I just think most folks they are going to lure are going to be a risk to some degree, some just more than others. It IMO, that risk goes up if the fit isn’t good. Like Mullen at UF for example… that was a bad fit from the start and Mullen wasn’t good enough to overcome some of those obstacles. But he was perfect for MSU.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

I doubt Kirby would advise him to take the MSU job, even if offered. Would be a huge gamble for him, and I think a lot of him.

Hopefully, if he's smart about where he goes, he could build a great program for me himself. And us, here's hoping.

 

[TerryP]

He's a perfect fit though... extremely well respected in the state at the HS level and understands the weird Aggie culture. Doesn't mean it would work out, but it would already be a giant step in the right direction.

You guys know what I think of Jimbo as a head coach. Setting that aside, this is one area that I still can't wrap my brain around.

In the Texas HS convention for football coaches, 40K+ mind you, Jimbo was a "no show." You just don't do that.

 

[TerryP]

30 seconds or less?

I guess this is an opportune time for, "that's what she said."

I opened myself for this.

BUT. That's what she said.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

A lot of rumors and smoke blowing around out there... talked to someone plugged in with agents earlier this evening and it's his feeling A&M will eventually go with Traylor... the support for that hire would be big, but it sounds like Bjork may want to go another direction (for now). Ultimately, unless he can get a "yes" from someone with a very strong consensus, it may not be his decision to make. Texas (and OU to an extent), coming in is having an impact on all this... A&M does not want to get stuck behind the Longhorns on or off the field. He thinks they will move pretty quick though and have a coach hired very shortly after next weekend, in part due to the possible, eventual opening at Michigan (though his opinion is that A&M is the better job).

MSU's direction seems even less clear... they have former players and some in the admin who want(ed) Mullen... it doesn't appear that is a possibility at this point (Mullen has even publicly said as much). Chadwell, Leipold (also squarely on A&M's radar), Lashlee, Fritz, and Sumrall have all (at least their agents) been reached out to and it doesn't sound like any have shut the door yet (though the feeling is that Chadwell would be too costly plus he wants to wait on other jobs and Sumrall wants to wait on the Kentucky job for if/when Stoops eventually gets hired away). It could be after next Saturday's games before it gets too formal with most of them. A couple of wild cards mentioned were Jonathan Smith... if Oregon St. wins tomorrow night, his stock is going to shoot up to an all-time high... there is belief that there would be serious interest from his side if he ends up heavily in the mix, but that he'd prefer the UCLA job. Secondly, there's also been a push by some pro-Leach advocates to give strong consideration to GJ Kinne because of the youth/energy he'd bring combined with his offensive style that they think is ultimately necessary for MSU to compete with consistently in the SEC. Also a good chance someone emerges and gets it that is out of the blue... One example he gave, although he said he's heard nothing on him and he'd be unlikely to have much interest, was Chris Peterson. But he said he'd at least reach out to him if he was Zac Selmon.

Lastly, mentioned the other day that Harbaugh may weasel out of Ann Arbor and end up back in the NFL with the Raiders. The Panthers are now also a possibility if they keep collecting loses and dump Reich... Their owner, like Harbaugh, is also a bit of an unorthodox, out of the box type, and he wouldn't be afraid to bring in a personality like Harbaugh. Personally, I think that would be a disaster for Bryce Young, so hopefully it doesn't happen.

 

[TerryP]

Ultimately, unless he can get a "yes" from someone with a very strong consensus, it may not be his decision to make.

I'll argue this is going to be a 12th Man Foundation hire. They are coughing up the 20+ million this fall to send Jimbo on his way...they'll make the decision on who gets the next 50+ million dollar contract.

While a lot of this is different, it's the same situation as Bama going from Stallings to DuBose. It'll be a coaching hire influenced by emails and texts versus the fax machine.

 

[OldPlayer]

Decisions on new coaches won’t be made until after the last game. Bonuses are based on final records. This applies to the HC and all assistant coaches.

 

[TerryP]

Decisions on new coaches won’t be made until after the last game. Bonuses are based on final records. This applies to the HC and all assistant coaches.

I don't agree with you . You'll see soon.

 

[Justneedme81]

Decisions on new coaches won’t be made until after the last game. Bonuses are based on final records. This applies to the HC and all assistant coaches.

Not true. Most of the time they want to get ahead of the hires.

 

[TerryP]

Not true. Most of the time they want to get ahead of the hires.

A&M is not. MSU is.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I'll argue this is going to be a 12th Man Foundation hire. They are coughing up the 20+ million this fall to send Jimbo on his way...they'll make the decision on who gets the next 50+ million dollar contract.

While a lot of this is different, it's the same situation as Bama going from Stallings to DuBose. It'll be a coaching hire influenced by emails and texts versus the fax machine.

Same type deal we’ve seen elsewhere… when folks fork over a truck load of cash, they also feel entitled to some of the decision making that follows. And honestly, putting full faith and trust in Bjork? I’d have the sweats.

 

[bamafan9201]

Syracuse fires coach Babers after eight seasons

Syracuse fired football coach Dino Babers on Sunday and named tight ends coach Nunzio Campanile interim coach.

www.espn.com

Source: Arkansas to keep Pittman amid 4-7 year

Coach Sam Pittman is staying at Arkansas as Razorbacks athletic director Hunter Yurachek informed coaches and players Saturday that the school will retain him, a source confirmed to ESPN.

www.espn.com

Apparently AD gave Pittman the ole confidence booster, usually means a death sentence but we shall see. Babers out at Syracuse.

 

[bamatommy]

Pittman needs to go from hc to oline coach.
Where he is really good

Please snatch him up, Coach Saban!