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UGA beat OSU because OSU missed a FG to win.

15-0 > then 11-2… not sure your point. I think that’s obvious. I don’t think I said I thought we were better than UGA this year. I only said to think they don’t have comparable or better talent than we do is just silly. It’s been proven by NFL drafts. This isn’t rocket science to understand. If you think UGA hasn’t recruited as well as us, here are the last 5 years ranking for UGA on Rivals site. *Note, I don’t really think recruiting site rankings mean a whole lot.
UGA Ranking
2018 # 1
2019 # 1
2020 # 1
2021 # 5
2022 # 3

If you don’t like Rivsls, 24/7 composite are:

2018 #1
2019 #2
2020 #1
2021 #4
2022 #3


Not sure how you can take recruiting site rankings as solid facts… that just makes me laugh. Facts are UGA set a record last year for 1st round defensive players taken at 5. They had more talent… that is a proven fact. To say they don’t have equal or better talent is a joke. But let’s humor you.

Last 5 Rivals ranking :

Rivals 2018 UGA # 1, 2019 ranking. UGA #1, 2020 UGA #1, 2021 UGA #5, 2022 ranking # 3

So… there ya go. And I’m not sure how you think recruiting classes from 5+ years ago help our depth… those players are no longer on the team.

Not sure what your point is in the rest of your post. I would agree our defense didn’t play well this year. I only pointed out that it’s ridiculous to say UGA doesn’t have as good of talent as we have… in fact I’d argue over the last 2 or 3 years they’ve had better.

Georgia also missed two field goals from one of the best kickers in the county as well, so how are you simply hanging it on the one Ohio State missed? It goes both ways.

The entire point was that in the last ten years we have recruited 7 better classes than Georgia. If you don't want to go off that, then simply go to the Draft and see how many players have been drafted from each school to show you what the NFL thinks about our talent. Who cares how many players Georgia had drafted in one year from a stout defense. How many did LSU have from their Natty team, but I'm still taking our 2020 offense over their 2019 offense. It's not even close for who has produced more talent and has the better roster. Also, Stetson was on Georgia's team five years ago, and last year they had Julian Rochester on the team for a sixth year that was a high four star that boasts their "depth", so yes, with covid there are plenty of guys still on these teams from years back. I will admit though I was not speaking in absolutes about recruiting rankings, just more generalities, but knew we had recruited at a higher level with our #1 classes rating higher than theirs, so I get your list as I looked that up even after my intial post about it.


Now, I've never ever said Georgia hasn't recruited well. I'm simply saying our roster is deeper than theirs, and there is plenty of information to support that. You're pointing to one year, last year, what Alabama has done almost every year. So not sure what your point is there.

In the end, Golding had the talent here to compete with Georgia statistically and he could not. Our schedule wasn't much different from Georgia's as we all played cupcakes and some good conference games, and we lost to two teams they beat up on. We aren't far, but we ahould have walked our way to a Natty this season with how down as a whole college football was.
 
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Georgia also missed two field goals from one of the best kickers in the county as well, so how are you simply hanging it on the one Ohio State missed? It goes both ways.

The entire point was that in the last ten years we have recruited 7 better classes than Georgia. If you don't want to go off that, then simply go to the Draft and see how many players have been drafted from each school to show you what the NFL thinks about our talent. Who cares how many players Georgia had drafted in one year from a stout defense. How many did LSU have from their Natty team, but I'm still taking our 2020 offense over their 2019 offense. It's not even close for who has produced more talent and has the better roster. Also, Stetson was on Georgia's team five years ago, and last year they had Julian Rochester on the team for a sixth year that was a high four star that boasts their "depth", so yes, with covid there are plenty of guys still on these teams from years back.


Now, I've never ever said Georgia hasn't recruited well. I'm simply saying our roster is deeper than theirs, and there is plenty of information to support that. You're pointing to one year, last year, what Alabama has done almost every year. So not sure what your point is there.

In the end, Golding had the talent here to compete with Georgia statistically and he could not. Our schedule wasn't much different from Georgia's as we all played cupcakes and some good conference games, and we lost to two teams they beat up on. We aren't far, but we ahould have walked our way to a Natty this season with how down as a whole college football was.
Because I was responding to air forces post and what he said about the end of the game.

Still don’t get how recruits for 10 years ago have any meaning to current team and roster… hell, Pete wasn’t even DC 5 years ago. Air Force said UGA had less talent than Bama over the last few years… I pointed out how much of an incorrect statement that is… it’s backed up by the NFL drafted player they had last year. It’s purely a non-factual statement he made.

Again, recruiting from 5+ years ago has nothing to do with our depth. Those players are no longer on the team. If you think over the last 2 to 3 years that Air Force is talking about that UGA doesn’t have equal depth and maybe even better depth… I don’t think you’re correct.

I’ve not made any statements about Pete and what he has done… I don’t really care. I think Saban has the best seat to know if he needed to go or not. I don’t worry about it.
 
Because I was responding to air forces post and what he said about the end of the game.

Still don’t get how recruits for 10 years ago have any meaning to current team and roster… hell, Pete wasn’t even DC 5 years ago. Air Force said UGA had less talent than Bama over the last few years… I pointed out how much of an incorrect statement that is… it’s backed up by the NFL drafted player they had last year. It’s purely a non-factual statement he made.

Again, recruiting from 5+ years ago has nothing to do with our depth. Those players are no longer on the team. If you think over the last 2 to 3 years that Air Force is talking about that UGA doesn’t have equal depth and maybe even better depth… I don’t think you’re correct.

I’ve not made any statements about Pete and what he has done… I don’t really care. I think Saban has the best seat to know if he needed to go or not. I don’t worry about it.

I get what you're saying and I don't think they can match our depth, I really don't. They hit the Portal hard a couple of years ago because they lacked starters at key positions. We hit the portal too, but we did it for depth more than need. We just so happened to hit a jackpot with Jameson Williams. Us missing on some linemen in that big time class we had a few years ago allowed them to catch up, but we have more top end talent. You talk about that one defense, yet we destroyed them in the SEC Championship and were up and down the field in the Natty against them. Also, you aren't mentioning our 2020 Draft class that was on par with Georgia's 2021 class. All of that is recent, so nothing 5+ years.
 
I get what you're saying and I don't think they can match our depth, I really don't. They hit the Portal hard a couple of years ago because they lacked starters at key positions. We hit the portal too, but we did it for depth more than need. We just so happened to hit a jackpot with Jameson Williams. Us missing on some linemen in that big time class we had a few years ago allowed them to catch up, but we have more top end talent. You talk about that one defense, yet we destroyed them in the SEC Championship and were up and down the field in the Natty against them. Also, you aren't mentioning our 2020 Draft class that was on par with Georgia's 2021 class. All of that is recent, so nothing 5+ years.
I don’t think a “shut down” defense exist anymore vs a dynamic running QB in an RPO scheme. I don’t think the rules of football give the defense a fair shake anymore. It’s all tilted in favor of offensive ball.

UGA has recruited 3 #1 classes in the last 5 years… they hav put 19 Defensive player in the NFL over the last three years. They’ve had plenty of depth on that side of the ball… although I’d say DB is an area of repeating and continuing weakness for them masked by the overwhelming taken at Dline the past few years.

BTW, I still think we should have beat them last year… we were the better team. This year… not so much. We didn’t have a dynamic enough offensive and our Defense had other issues.
 
I don’t think a “shut down” defense exist anymore vs a dynamic running QB in an RPO scheme. I don’t think the rules of football give the defense a fair shake anymore. It’s all tilted in favor of offensive ball.

UGA has recruited 3 #1 classes in the last 5 years… they hav put 19 Defensive player in the NFL over the last three years. They’ve had plenty of depth on that side of the ball… although I’d say DB is an area of repeating and continuing weakness for them masked by the overwhelming taken at Dline the past few years.

BTW, I still think we should have beat them last year… we were the better team. This year… not so much. We didn’t have a dynamic enough offensive and our Defense had other issues.

Shut down does not exist, I agree. I think stepping up in big games and shutting down a good team is posaible, but as for an entire season I don't think that is possible with so many different offenses and teams it's just a lot of prep.

The last five years, we have still put in way more players into the NFL than anyone else and almost double what Georgia has.


I don't think we could beat Georgia thus year, but we had a puncher's chance. More of one than Michigan and TCU I will say. Ohio State was strong where Georgia was weak, so they had an elevated shot due to that, but Ohio State's defense is terrible and that's why I think we offer a better game than even them. We were more even of a team this year as neither aide atood out, but our depth allows us to keep close. Think I heard Alabama has lost their last three ganes by fewer points than Ohio State's loss to Michigan this year alone.
 
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I think we could beat Ohio State, which means we could beat UGA. But I think it required both sides to play a good (not great, but good) game for 60 minutes, which we really never saw this year much.

Right. We needed the game we had against Kansas State. Even then we started out slow and couldn't afford to do that against a good team, but if we play like the rest of that game we could have won it all, agreed. Would we have gotten that though, no clue.
 
Shut down does not exist, I agree. I think stepping up in big games and shutting down a good team is posaible, but as for an entire season I don't think that is possible with so many different offenses and teams it's just a lot of prep.

The last five years, we have still put in way more players into the NFL than anyone else and almost double what Georgia has.


I don't think we could beat Georgia thus year, but we had a puncher's chance. More of one than Michigan and TCU I will say. Ohio State was strong where Georgia was weak, so they had an elevated shot due to that, but Ohio State's defense is terrible and that's why I think we offer a better game than even them. We were more even of a team this year as neither aide atood out, but our depth allows us to keep close. Think I heard Alabama has lost their last three ganes by fewer points than Ohio State's loss to Michigan this year alone.

Let’s remember Kirby didn’t start at UGA until 2016. 2017 would be his first real recruiting class. That class 3 year kids to NFzl in 2020… so it’s not really comparable to look back more than 3 years for his recruits in the NFL. He’s done as good as Bama over that time period… there is no doubt in that. He put 9 kids in 2021 and 15 in 2022.

The site you linked is a bit out of date not taking into account the 15 UGA has in 2022.

UGA wasn’t shit before Kirby… we can both agree on that I think. Kirby’s recruiting has been on par with us as I noted befor and his drafted on par with us as noted above. I hate it, but it’s true.
 
Let’s remember Kirby didn’t start at UGA until 2016. 2017 would be his first real recruiting class. That class 3 year kids to NFzl in 2020… so it’s not really comparable to look back more than 3 years for his recruits in the NFL. He’s done as good as Bama over that time period… there is no doubt in that. He put 9 kids in 2021 and 15 in 2022.

The site you linked is a bit out of date not taking into account the 15 UGA has in 2022.

UGA wasn’t shit before Kirby… we can both agree on that I think. Kirby’s recruiting has been on par with us as I noted befor and his drafted on par with us as noted above. I hate it, but it’s true.

Kirby walked into a much better situation than Saban did. Georgia recruited at a high rate under Richt as well. Mainstay in the Top 10 and competing for SEC Championships and played Alabama to one of the best college football games I have ever seen in that 2012 SEC Championship. The cupboard wasn't bare, so I wouldn't say Georgia wasn't shit. They simply didn't have the coach to get them on the winning side of things. Kirby has replicated Saban and Alabama at Georgia, amd you see what that can do.

Take into consideration how many Alabama has put in in 2022 as well then and it's still more. Either way, Georgia is closing the gap no doubt, but Alabama still holds more talent and depth.
 
Georgia also missed two field goals from one of the best kickers in the county as well, so how are you simply hanging it on the one Ohio State missed? It goes both ways.

The entire point was that in the last ten years we have recruited 7 better classes than Georgia. If you don't want to go off that, then simply go to the Draft and see how many players have been drafted from each school to show you what the NFL thinks about our talent. Who cares how many players Georgia had drafted in one year from a stout defense. How many did LSU have from their Natty team, but I'm still taking our 2020 offense over their 2019 offense. It's not even close for who has produced more talent and has the better roster. Also, Stetson was on Georgia's team five years ago, and last year they had Julian Rochester on the team for a sixth year that was a high four star that boasts their "depth", so yes, with covid there are plenty of guys still on these teams from years back. I will admit though I was not speaking in absolutes about recruiting rankings, just more generalities, but knew we had recruited at a higher level with our #1 classes rating higher than theirs, so I get your list as I looked that up even after my intial post about it.


Now, I've never ever said Georgia hasn't recruited well. I'm simply saying our roster is deeper than theirs, and there is plenty of information to support that. You're pointing to one year, last year, what Alabama has done almost every year. So not sure what your point is there.

In the end, Golding had the talent here to compete with Georgia statistically and he could not. Our schedule wasn't much different from Georgia's as we all played cupcakes and some good conference games, and we lost to two teams they beat up on. We aren't far, but we ahould have walked our way to a Natty this season with how down as a whole college football was.
Golding had the talent sure, but had to stay within Saban’s playbook. Let’s not act like PG had any control over the defense.

You’re also leaving out that PG got a defensive dude to NY for the Heisman unless you give all that credit to Anderson
 
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Golding had the talent sure, but had to stay within Saban’s playbook. Let’s not act like PG had any control over the defense.

You’re also leaving out that PG got a defensive dude to NY for the Heisman unless you give all that credit to Anderson

I do give that credit to Anderson. After seeing how he was used in the Tennessee game It had me realizing just how good he was by rushing the quarterback in a raw sense, not how our scheme was played. To be fair, I don't give Bryce's career to his coach either because Alabama's system did not make Bryce, Bryce Young was simply Bryce Young.

One of the guy's I truly credit with making his guys THAT much better was Burton Burns. His guys truly seemed to respond to him and he had some highly recruited backs, but they truly loved him and it seemed like he made a true difference in their growth and development.

Your statement does have me thinking though, and it is actually a great point. Which players do we feel gained their success from just talent and which players were developed and their ceiling was maximized by our coaching staff. Obviously they all get coached up, muscled up, and developed, but you hopefully you can understand what I mean. Guys like McCarron, Mac Jones, Hurts, and most of our prized linemen seemed to be developed. Guys like Bryce, Jeudy, Devonta, Henry, William Anderson, and Minkah all seemed to just have "it" when they arrived on campus. Would be a fun discussion amongst everyone.
 
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