Oh please. Let’s single them out. Malachi Moore defense, #1 Law on offense. To me, Law will be remembered for his 15 yd PF at 10rc, and hand fighting with a defender 15 yds behind a TD run by Milroe, maybe in LSU game.
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We might see, but we won't wait. We're gonna fuss, cuss and talk about it.
Dude is going to sit here and wait and see.
Our biggest need is culture change. I agree with BVD. It’s been a problem Nick fought and only cause he was the goat made it look successful, but it’s been a problem for several years.
Biggest key for this staff, the right culture must out weigh the negative culture.
Unfortunately this means some talented players have to go because they are toxic. Some may leave because they don’t think the culture will change.
This offseason I’m not looking at stars, starts, or stats. I want men with a positive mental attitude, a team spirit, and that buy into our staffs vision for this team.
Btw the “Bama Standard” is culture.
Our biggest need is culture change. I agree with BVD. It’s been a problem Nick fought and only cause he was the goat made it look successful, but it’s been a problem for several years.
Biggest key for this staff, the right culture must out weigh the negative culture.
Unfortunately this means some talented players have to go because they are toxic. Some may leave because they don’t think the culture will change.
This offseason I’m not looking at stars, starts, or stats. I want men with a positive mental attitude, a team spirit, and that buy into our staffs vision for this team.
Btw the “Bama Standard” is culture.
bamafan9201
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Every year we deal with this and every year I shake my head when guys enter the portal and expect 20+ offers with NIL packages included now. I'm sorry, but just because you and your inner circle thinks you're the greatest thing that walked the earth doesn't mean that everyone does. They forget how crazy recruiting was and how close they could've been to being without a scholarship. We've seen so many kids hit the portal and when the music stops, they don't have a chair anymore and you gotta wonder if they ended their careers because they couldn't move on.
TerryP
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I'd like to the percentage of walk-ons in the portal versus scholarship players.
BamaFan334
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The crazy thing is that this mentality goes all the way back to 10U. These parents are simply lost. They watch the NFL every week and think all of their kids are gonna go pro. They are never honest with their kids or about their kids. It's engrained in them at a very early age.
We just had our Year End banquet and of course there were words and texts about the Awards given. "Well my baby deserved this award if he'd been given the ball more" or "he should have won offensive MVP but no one blocked for him".
Justneedme81
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Okay, this reminds me of conversation I had with a friend who has a son in 8th grade at a local school nearby. Everyone in the town has been trying to get him to transfer to HS next year. Decatur, Athens, etc because of potential talent he has. I had a hard conversation with his mom few weeks ago about him. How that happened, was when she was telling me about what happened at a game, and how his team lost by 15 points. First thing I asked her was this: "How many points did he score?" She said 6 points. I said He is the tallest player on the team at 6"2" and 210lbs and he's in 8th grade and he scored 6 points? " I said, "How many rebounds he had?" She replied, " I think he had 2." I told her that if I was his coach, I would bench him immediately because aint no way a player like him score 6 points and 3 rebounds against team that is full of players less than 5"9 inch.
Her reason to why he had those stats: " Everyone was fouling him left and right. Don't you dare tell me my son sucks! "
Kid is smart in classroom, but he does not know how to read defense and react to it by finding soft spot to get open. He's being coddled by his coaches and his parent, as well his basketball trainer. He's a popular kid for every coach on AAU level. If you're local and know AAU game, then you most likely have heard of him.
I've seen his tapes. His parents and family hyped him up so good and if I'm the coach for a 9th grade team, I would say.. he got lot of work to do and it may not even be enough.
What's the point: Parents always going to say something to benefit their own kids, even when it's not true. Part of the reason why I got out of coaching sports because of the parents. They don't know jack.
I will never forget this team I volunteered coaching. Before I came along, the team couldn't hit a jack. I stepped in and taught them fundamental of hitting the ball. I was pitching ball to6 and 7 years old girls. While I'm on the mound, I can hear the parents complaining about the way I pitched to the girls.... End of the season awards.. I got on stage and told the parents that I heard every single things they said about me while I was on the field with their girls, and they did not appreciate the fact that their kids improved so much under me, we actually won 5 out of 7 games under me opposed to the coach before me that won 1 game out of 4.
I then told everyone I quit. Nobody has to be this dumb to work with parents like them. I walked out of the room and that was it.
BamaFan334
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Sorry you had to go through that. Funny how they are so quick to turn on the ones helping their kids the most and will continue to point the finger until there is no one else left in the room. Hate it because it's detrimental to the kids and their future, but very little we can do about it. I, like you, made the kids better and they got the best experience they ever had, yet parents still blame others for things.
BAMAneck
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Rolltide24
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“Matriculated” love it!
From my oldest son starting pound ball in fourth grade to my youngest finishing in high school, I had 18 consecutive years of various roles in the youth teams and the umbrella high school football booster club. I helped coach when they were young, and finally ended up as booster club president with a $250,000 annual budget. At some youth levels, we had enough kids to have two teams - an A and a B - and they would compete against their similarly slotted counterparts at other programs. You would think that we were relegating a kid to a lifetime as a second-class citizen to have them on B. Every year, I told the parents the same thing: my youngest son started out on a B team, and would never have gotten the playing time on the A to improve and end up as a pretty good player. I also told them the only way the kids would be unhappy playing on B was how each parent reacted to it. That ended the bitching at the meeting.
Kids are great. Parents suck. Although:
I helped coach my youngest in Upwards Basketball at a local Baptist church. I think there are competing programs like it now, but Bible lesson at practice and halftime speaker at games. That puts a game in proper perspective. That was the only season where I never had one issue with a parent. These were third and fourth grade kids, some who were decidedly nonathletic. I worked with one boy who, at the start of the season, couldn't shoot the ball high enough to make a basket, so each practice I would work with him, finding a spot on the wall a little higher. He quickly improved and later in the season when he scored, the Dad came over, tears flowing, thanking me for not giving up on his son when he wasn't strong enough to shoot the ball. Those moments stay with you.
Involved with Upward for 10 years as the set up guy, fields courts etc.
Can agree 100% with your sentiments. We are at our best when helping others.
Crimson&WhiteGecko
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It's always a parent issue. They are either enablers of accountability or enablers of incompetance.
Reminds me of Henry Ford's quote: "Whether you beleive you CAN or CAN'T, you're right" Sometimes there are kids with parents who know they have no clue how to make things better for their kids. But they are the ones willing to put their kid in the care of those with experience. I have found that these parents cheer their kids on, keep them accountable, & hold back their own inadequacies . . . . . And see their son or daughter grow into something they've never seen themselves. That's powerful. That's affecting generational change. Jewel in the crown stuff.
Parents are the problem, not the kids! I coached in the HS ranks for 13 years and I had my fair share of dealings with parents and I’m here to tell you that baseball parents were the worst! We did have parents in the other sports to pitch a fit from time to time, but my experience with baseball was way worse. My first full year teaching and I was named the HC of the baseball program. 5th game in and I am faced with an enraged father, demanding answers to why his son didn’t play, immediately following a game! My policy was NEVER after games, but this guy kept on bitching. So I pulled out the scorebook and showed him his sons’ stat lines from the previous four games. Shut his ass up really quick! Problem with baseball parents is most all of the dads played it at one time and they likely coached little Johnny at the park leagues. Little Johnny always made all star, batted 3rd or clean up and he most always played shortstop.
We did have the occasional parent to bitch in football! Weirdest one I ever experienced was parents bitching about their son “having to play,” not “not getting to play”.
I did have a parent defend my actions against their son in basketball. The player had issues with authority figures and after I had warned him previously, he broke one of my rules, so I kicked him off the team and out of the locker room. His mom brought him to me afterwards, asked what had happened because he wouldn’t say. When I explained the incident, she jerked a knot in his ass and made him apologize on the spot. When the kid asked me if he could come back, before I could reply, his mom snapped and said, “Hell naw! You’re done! Coached tried with you and you screwed it up!”
We did have the occasional parent to bitch in football! Weirdest one I ever experienced was parents bitching about their son “having to play,” not “not getting to play”.
I did have a parent defend my actions against their son in basketball. The player had issues with authority figures and after I had warned him previously, he broke one of my rules, so I kicked him off the team and out of the locker room. His mom brought him to me afterwards, asked what had happened because he wouldn’t say. When I explained the incident, she jerked a knot in his ass and made him apologize on the spot. When the kid asked me if he could come back, before I could reply, his mom snapped and said, “Hell naw! You’re done! Coached tried with you and you screwed it up!”
I only had one issue when my son played 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th grade football when he transitioned to freshman football.
My son was a damn good backup. He loves football(watching it) not playing and was lazy. He twisted his ankle the first day of freshman football, even the trainer said it was twisted but the asshole coach made him practice on it and I said nothing. Took him to the doctor and he made him take a week off from practicing. When he went back the first day, I got off work early to pick him up, I parked in a place that I could see them practice and noticed he was holding a tackeling dummy and not swapping out to hit it. After practice I asked the coach what was going on, not because I thought my son was the greatest football player but because he told me he held the dummy the whole practice and the coach said he would NEVER see the field. I told the coach that he was done because he wasn’t going to be a part of this shit show and that coach was fired because his team went 0-10 because half the team quit. My son never played again but his team mates were still friends and their senior season went to the state playoffs. My point is, you need coaching skills and you need good backups to spell the starters. He loves Bama football and takes losses hard.
My son was a damn good backup. He loves football(watching it) not playing and was lazy. He twisted his ankle the first day of freshman football, even the trainer said it was twisted but the asshole coach made him practice on it and I said nothing. Took him to the doctor and he made him take a week off from practicing. When he went back the first day, I got off work early to pick him up, I parked in a place that I could see them practice and noticed he was holding a tackeling dummy and not swapping out to hit it. After practice I asked the coach what was going on, not because I thought my son was the greatest football player but because he told me he held the dummy the whole practice and the coach said he would NEVER see the field. I told the coach that he was done because he wasn’t going to be a part of this shit show and that coach was fired because his team went 0-10 because half the team quit. My son never played again but his team mates were still friends and their senior season went to the state playoffs. My point is, you need coaching skills and you need good backups to spell the starters. He loves Bama football and takes losses hard.
JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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I hate this for your son. Missing out on magical times playing football in HS is just awful. Today I played golf with 3 of my HS football teammates from 1967. We play once a week and have for these past 3 years. We don't have names just our HS numbers. 12, 20, 22 and 83, 22 will be 75 tomorrow. So many memories and we even won a few.
We played Mountain Brook in their 1st HS game in 66 at old Shades Valley stadium. We ran out about 35 and they about 100. Kicked their ass 20-6 and ole Josey got a pick 6 from around their 10. They had a good laugh at us until the kickoff.
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