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Clemson just lost to Wake Forest by a score of 12 to 7.

With this loss to yet another ACC team, their dream of that elusive ACC title is slowly dissolving.

The fans of Clemson were really counting on big things this year. Supposedly, if they ever were going to do it, this was going to be the year what with all the seniors and quality players on the team.
 
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Clemson just lost to Wake Forest by a score of 12 to 7.

With this loss to yet another ACC team, their dream of that elusive ACC title is slowly dissolving.

The fans of Clemson were really counting on big things this year. Supposedly, if they ever were going to do it, this was going to be the year what with all the seniors and quality players on the team.

Wow. The ACC has just been a mess this year. I wouldn't be shocked to see Paul Johnson win the conference title, this year, based on what I have seen.

I just don't think Tommy will survive this either. Too bad. He seems decent enough.
 
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Wow. The ACC has just been a mess this year. I wouldn't be shocked to see Paul Johnson win the conference title, this year, based on what I have seen.

I just don't think Tommy will survive this either. Too bad. He seems decent enough.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Paul Johnson win it either, Bamafan4ever.

Right now, GT is second behind VT in the ACC Coastal. Anything is possible in that conference right now.

Tommy Bowden, I feel kind of sorry for him too. He does seem like an honest and down to earth person. Of course, I am just basing that opinion on the few interviews I have seen him do.

It was sort of pitiful when he started calling all these other coaches after Alabama beat them.
 
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Tommy has good players its just they cant win big games or win enough games. His time is winding down is seat is burning.
 
Tedford said:
Tommy has good players its just they cant win big games or win enough games. His time is winding down is seat is burning.

I agree. Clemson fans wanted something more so bad this year that they will just be disgusted with him when the season is over.
 
Take the pit bull for example,,, one is the top dog in the pen,, then one day along comes another, whips him, and the former "top dog" cowers down, and never gets over the whooping. Hence Bama over Clemson... I like T. Bowden, hope he keeps his job, but if he doesn't, hey! Maybe Saban can find a job for Sweeney. Recruiting guru.....
 
I've been following Ga. Tech closely this year and N. Carolina as well. As much as I would like to see Johnson make it to the ACCCG, I just don't see it happening this year. One game down to Va. Tech (Hokies have the tie breaker) and they still have N. Carolina left on their schedule which is a team people should keep their eyes on the next few years.

Va Tech has a pretty easy slate in front of them. Their only remaining "challenge" looks to be Boston College who they face next weekend.

On Clemson...

We all know of the comparisons between Clemson and Auburn. The more and more I glance at the Clemson fan base, but more and more it becomes clear they are very, very much alike.

I glanced over a few of their forums after the game last night and saw several make mention of the idea they should follow Tubs and fire people now.

Another mentions how they have beaten their instate rival 5 of 7 times as a suave to hurt feelings.

They have a hard row to hoe to keep a .500 mark this season; @ FSU, BC and Virginia with home games against Ga. Tech, Duke and South Carolina.
 
I've been following Ga. Tech closely this year and N. Carolina as well. As much as I would like to see Johnson make it to the ACCCG, I just don't see it happening this year. One game down to Va. Tech (Hokies have the tie breaker) and they still have N. Carolina left on their schedule which is a team people should keep their eyes on the next few years.

They actually have a very good team. Davis is doing a good job so far. Watched a couple of their games. They are vastly improved over last year.
 
I know that Wake has a decent defense, but I just can't figure how a team with the skill people Clemson has can only put up seven points. I know there offensive line was a bit of a mess to start the season, but you'd think, seven games in, they'd have fixed that. Bowden is definitely on the hot seat.
 
Clemson’s offense gives up on the run far too easily and was too predictable. I mean 16 runs and 42 passing plays last night when you have James Davis and CJ Spiller? Someone needs to tell the offensive coordinator that sometimes it’s OK to run a draw on 3rd and 7 or run a toss sweep on 2nd and 12. If Clemson doesn’t get at least 5 yards on 1st down, they always pass on 2nd and 3rd down. Wake was pulling 7 back into coverage and shutting them down. Unpredictability of offense is just as much about running on a passing down as it is about going play action on a traditional running down.

Plus, I think Harper and Ford are a little overrated. Both had big seasons last year when teams were putting 8 in the box to stop the run, but these two are not good enough to beat most team’s zone coverage.

I also noticed Wake using the old send the wideouts deep and sneak the tight-end between the LBs and Safeties play to perfection last night. How is it that Clemson still hasn’t made the adjustment to stop that after Nick Walker ate them up with it in the first week of the season?

To me it seems all of Clemson’s woes come right back to coaching.
 
Clemson seems like a bunch of weenies. They sure do get a lot of people hurt. And did you ever play with guys who always got "hurt" when the game got out of hand? Kind of like they were saying "well, I got hurt, so it wasn't my fault". That seems to happen to Clemson. I think their problems come down to coaching and lack of conditioning.
 
You could use a ton of those "one word" descriptions when talking about Clemson. Overrated, underachieving, and so on. The one I tend to think of when talking about Clempsun is...

SOFT
 
Terribly coached.....Use of all 3 TOs last night in the 3rd quarter. :oops:

Clemscum should rid themselves of Tommy ASAP
 
FWIW, Spiller was hurt pretty early in this game and Davis isn't the dual threat that Spiller is...in a manner of speaking, it does limit what they can do with their offense in terms of backfield skill positions.

That said, they still haven't figured out how to block a DL...
 
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