🏈 The Coaching Carousel : UT promotes Kelsey Pope to WR coach

[TerryP]

I can't recall the UA admin going to Saban and telling him he can't sign a guy for other reasons though, which has been the case with ND and Kelly numerous times.

Just as an example if we're on the same page.

One of the requirements at ND right now is an essay on a quote from one of the founders of a Congregation. The subject matter is on a higher plane than an essay in Comp 101 but I don't see it as difficult as the requirements for say New College at UA. (That was a bitch to write.) At ND it's basically labeled as "let us get to know you better" through this excercise.

Is this something you're calling "other reasons?" IE: an athletes answer and whether or not they fit with the ND "culture."

If we're on the same page, these "other reasons" apply to BYU as well, right? I'd certainly think there would be an issue with a QB out of Provo whose parent own a local pub.

 

[doemasters]

All I want to see now is Josh Heupel leave Tennessee and go to Oklahoma, would just be right for Tennessee I believe

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Just as an example if we're on the same page.

One of the requirements at ND right now is an essay on a quote from one of the founders of a Congregation. The subject matter is on a higher plane than an essay in Comp 101 but I don't see it as difficult as the requirements for say New College at UA. (That was a bitch to write.) At ND it's basically labeled as "let us get to know you better" through this excercise.

Is this something you're calling "other reasons?" IE: an athletes answer and whether or not they fit with the ND "culture."

If we're on the same page, these "other reasons" apply to BYU as well, right? I'd certainly think there would be an issue with a QB out of Provo whose parent own a local pub.

I'd have to get clarification on it, but I was left with the feeling that ND will overrule based on pretty much anything they wish, including off the field issues. I've seen it on a much smaller scale on the HS level at a large and powerful catholic school I went to. It's about the admin controlling things for the "betterment" of the institution (which is usually code for, we are going to control your house despite our own being way out of order).

 

[TerryP]

I'd have to get clarification on it, but I was left with the feeling that ND will overrule based on pretty much anything they wish, including off the field issues. I've seen it on a much smaller scale on the HS level at a large and powerful catholic school I went to. It's about the admin controlling things for the "betterment" of the institution (which is usually code for, we are going to control your house despite our own being way out of order).

Now we're getting into (for lack of a better word) the political/societal aspects of being a Notre Dame student.

We are on the same page then. I hated using the political/societal tags earlier but they fit.

If this was phrased "there's an inherent and intrinsic prejudice that comes with admission to Notre Dame and excludes people from being admitted" there is no conversation on my end: I believe that 100%.

I would be tempted to mention BYU in the same conversation. Who, coincidentally, won a national title as well.

 

[rick4bama]

Kelly to LSU???? When did this happen!!

 

[TerryP]

Kelly to LSU???? When did this happen!!

Page ten.

 

[rick4bama]

Page ten.

All I can say is, he a good fit for Bama! He 0-2 right?

 

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[rick4bama]

Venables to Oklahoma could this be the next?

 

[PurlJam]

Call it a gut feeling or whatever, but I don't see this marriage being successful - they just don't seem a good "fit." Sure there is more local talent concentrated in the lower Southeast, but ND has always had national recruiting pull. LSU has a hot mess on its hands with NCAA junk. Kelley, to me, just doesn't seem like an "LSU guy." I could be wrong - and time will bear it out - but I don't see it going well.

I don't think Kelly has the "noodling" skills to live in Louisiana.

 

[TerryP]

Oh, I get it, and you are correct..... you ain't right.

......

Scott Rabalais, The Advocate, just mentioned "he's Catholic" as his 'in-road' into Louisiana homes.

 

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[Davestwin]

I know I’m old but all of the massive changes coming one on top of another isn’t good for college football … at least not the college football I have loved for seven decades. Coaches leaving for massive contracts to take other jobs when their team has a shot at a NC causes an avalanche of other big contract offers/extensions to either lure someone in or to keep someone there. All of that is going to lead to the media, the Courts and the players themselves demanding that players be paid more than the NIL which only helps a small number of players. Once that happens, the game I love will be no more. The only solution I see to slow down some of this is for the Power Five to break off and form their own governing body with a commissioner to put in place some NFL type rules for coaches and players. We Bama fans are so blessed Saban didn’t take the bags of money Texas was offering him to pull a Riley or Kelly.

 

[TerryP]

Coaches leaving for massive contracts to take other jobs when their team has a shot at a NC

Notre Dame didn't go to bowl games for years.
Their coach this season doesn't go to a NC (not that it's likely.)

Tradition.

 

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[OldPlayer]

All I want to see now is Josh Heupel leave Tennessee and go to Oklahoma, would just be right for Tennessee I believe

Heupel has an $8 million buyout. While not impossible, it would give Oklahoma some pause.
Josh Heupel's buyout if he left Tennessee compared to Lane Kiffin in 2010 is stunning

 

[Davestwin]

I imagine Oklahoma has Kiffin as one of their two primary targets to replace Riley. I know the press says they’re looking first at pulling Kingsbury away from the NFL. Yet, Kiffin will be an easier hire to make and in my opinion a better option for them. And with his best friend QB Corral and a number of other players heading to the NFL, Kiffin’s probably itching to make a move.

 

[ElephantStomp]

I imagine Oklahoma has Kiffin as one of their two primary targets to replace Riley. I know the press says they’re looking first at pulling Kingsbury away from the NFL. Yet, Kiffin will be an easier hire to make and in my opinion a better option for them. And with his best friend QB Corral and a number of other players heading to the NFL, Kiffin’s probably itching to make a move.

Kingsbury is a better option than Kiffin in my opinion.

 

[Davestwin]

Notre Dame didn't go to bowl games for years.
Their coach this season doesn't go to a NC (not that it's likely.)

Tradition.

I’m not sure I understand the gist of what you’re saying but if Bama loses to UGA (almost every pundit is picking that to happen) and either Cincinnati or Michigan loses their conference championship game (neither is a far stretch) then ND would be in the playoffs. To my knowledge, a college coach has never left his current team to take another coaching job while their current team’s still in the hunt for a NC.

In and of itself, this one event isn’t calamitous for the game … but taken together with everything else that’s changed about the college game in the recent past, then the game I’ve loved my entire life is becoming less and less attractive to me. Change is inevitable … I get it. Though massive changes occurring within a short period of time often don’t portend good outcomes.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

The Cards can't afford to match (or won't anyway), the money that OU can throw at Kingsbury (long term). He's in a good situation though in terms of his current NFL job. But, he can grab that guaranteed money from the Sooners, and even if he fails again in college, he has enough equity built up in the NFL he'd have no problems landing a gig there again (but odds are it wouldn't be as good a gig as he has now). So basically, what's more important to him? The NFL lifestyle and trying to win a Super Bowl? Or ALL THE MONEY, but having to deal with the CFB grind? I think he probably uses OU to get very nice raise and stays in the NFL...