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. Kelly will not have the academic restrictions that he faced in South Bend

The big difference is the academic requirements needed to get into ND versus any other school.
What restrictions academically? They are offering and signing the same kids as the other top schools. They are recruiting at a high level and have been.

It's certainly not a guy like Ty Simpson; he has an offer. The same goes for Emmanuel Henderson so there's a top rated QB and RB for a class. The Irish have Khamauri Rogers offered (committed to Miami) which leaves us with guys they are pursuing in the ACC and the SEC. Their top recruit, Jaylen Sneed, is a kid Bama has been after. He's committed to the Irish and is still visiting other schools (UofSC this past weekend.)

Notre Dame requirements from their admissions site:

There’s no minimum grade point average or class rank required,

Applicants may choose whether or not to submit their ACT or SAT scores

Students are required to take 16 units during their high school career.*

* See Prop 48: that's required of all schools.
 
Looks like the BOB to VT stuff was all smoke. Looking more like Penn State defensive coordinator Brent Pry is the guy there.


Also, I really want video of Kelly eating some home cooked meal from some of those Louisiana recruits houses. He looks like he thinks mayo might be too spicy.
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I would have to say you are eating his knee.
 
In regards to the conversation above... I don't know the specifics about Notre Dame and their admissions and requirements, but I know the school admin has absolutely vetoed players that Kelly was wanting to sign (which irritated him).
Along those same lines. I read that when Urban left Utah to go to UF, that ND offered him (his dream job, CUM's words). Word was that he asked to sign 5 athletes a year that met the NCAA admission requirements and not ND standards. They said no, and we see how all that turned out.

I have no idea if that is true or not, I read it on the internet, so..........
 
nd only accepts 3,500 freshmen a year out of roughly 22,000 applicants. It is a highly competitive school with an overall low acceptance rate. Do they make exceptions? Sure, but not too many. I hink when Coach Holtz was there, they did lower some of the standards for awhile but a new AD made a change back to a higher academic standing several years later. This is what I found in an article about nd football:

"Notre Dame’s standards are well known for being one of the most difficult in the country. High school athletes must have at least four college prep courses and two years of foreign language completed to be admitted. Additionally, recruits must be able to point to specific evidence from within their high school academic record that indicates the capability of meeting the stringent demands of academic life at Notre Dame. But clearing the admittance hurdle is only the first step.

Notre Dame student-athletes are subjected to difficult math courses, such as calculus, as freshmen and must achieve – as well as maintain – a GPA of at least 2.0 by the end of their freshmen year. To put this standard in context, many universities only require one year of foreign language to be admitted, and students do not need to achieve a 2.0 GPA until their junior year."

nd, Duke, Vandy, Stanford, Rice and Northwestern are very selective. A friend of mine had two daughters attend and graduate from nd. They also applied at Duke, NW and Vandy. They did not attend for athletics.

I also looked at the nd student athlete handbook.
 
"Notre Dame’s standards are well known for being one of the most difficult in the country. High school athletes must have at least four college prep courses and two years of foreign language completed to be admitted. Additionally, recruits must be able to point to specific evidence from within their high school academic record that indicates the capability of meeting the stringent demands of academic life at Notre Dame. But clearing the admittance hurdle is only the first step.
The NCAA requires:
  • Four additional years of English, math, natural/physical science, social science, foreign language, comparative religion or philosophy
The foreign language requirement isn't unique.
Notre Dame student-athletes are subjected to difficult math courses, such as calculus, as freshmen and must achieve – as well as maintain – a GPA of at least 2.0 by the end of their freshmen year. To put this standard in context, many universities only require one year of foreign language to be admitted, and students do not need to achieve a 2.0 GPA until their junior year."
Here's what I was pointing to earlier. What they require while in school isn't as easy as what a kid would find at Stanford while Stanford is considered a harder school to get in.

But clearing the admittance hurdle is only the first step.

Now we're getting into (for lack of a better word) the political/societal aspects of being a Notre Dame student. @Brandon Van de Graaff while it's true Kelly has been pissed off because their admission offices wouldn't allow some in that same goes for all schools. Do you remember how vocal Spurrier was about the same thing at his last stop, UofSC? We've seen it in Tuscaloosa to the point a player has been on campus and participating only to be told no.

What's being implied here is Notre Dame can't recruit the same kids as other schools. And yet Notre Dame is recruiting the same kids as other schools.
 
Call it a gut feeling or whatever, but I don't see this marriage being successful - they just don't seem a good "fit." Sure there is more local talent concentrated in the lower Southeast, but ND has always had national recruiting pull. LSU has a hot mess on its hands with NCAA junk. Kelley, to me, just doesn't seem like an "LSU guy." I could be wrong - and time will bear it out - but I don't see it going well.
 
Now we're getting into (for lack of a better word) the political/societal aspects of being a Notre Dame student. @Brandon Van de Graaff while it's true Kelly has been pissed off because their admission offices wouldn't allow some in that same goes for all schools. Do you remember how vocal Spurrier was about the same thing at his last stop, UofSC? We've seen it in Tuscaloosa to the point a player has been on campus and participating only to be told no.

What's being implied here is Notre Dame can't recruit the same kids as other schools. And yet Notre Dame is recruiting the same kids as other schools.

I don't believe this is a similar situation. From an academic standard standpoint, yes, Alabama has had to turn kids away they wanted. I can't recall the UA admin going to Saban and telling him he can't sign a guy for other reasons though, which has been the case with ND and Kelly numerous times.
 

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