🏈 Our Run Defense.....

[BamaSon25]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

 

[footballer]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

I agree with you on the sub- par LB play for the majority of this season. I really can't put my finger on the problem, Scheme? Defensive play calling? ILB coaching? We seem to be out of position or very slow to react on too many plays, run or pass. Is this why CPG is being considered for and maybe looking around for a new job?

 

[gc90]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

That is not what you said last week and argued with me.

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BamaSon25
Nov 18, 2018
#30
gc90 said:
the problem isnt that we didnt do so well against triple option... our run defense is going to be an issue against GA.
Edge runs especially
No it wont man. We have the speed to get out there. We have the players to shut down the run.... ask LSU

 

[TerryP]

@BamaSon25, @gc90,

UGA's rushing attack has nothing in common with Auburn, or The Citadel, or Arkansas.

Mizzou, Tennessee, A&M, and LSU...there are some valid comparisons to be found if you look at those games when judging the rushing defense.

 

[BamaSon25]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

That is not what you said last week and argued with me.

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BamaSon25
Nov 18, 2018
#30
gc90 said:
the problem isnt that we didnt do so well against triple option... our run defense is going to be an issue against GA.
Edge runs especially
No it wont man. We have the speed to get out there. We have the players to shut down the run.... ask LSU

And we do... I was asking specifically about the LB spots inside. I do feel like we have underachieved there. Blocking 92 is no easy task and the rest of the d line has played great. It's just scary when they are 3 yards past the line of scrimmage before they meet any resistance from the LBs. I think it may be schemes as we seem to be dropping 30 into coverage a lot. I do think we are still better than 90% of the other teams, so it isn't all gloom and doom from me. Everything I said above is true. I don't appreciate your combative nature. If you have a problem with something I have said...spit it out. Otherwise, you need more than the above statement before you start calling me out. And since you have taken it there.... why the hell can't you ever say anything positive?

 

[EasyTider]

30 & 32 will need to play very well to shutdown GA run and let us get after Fromm. A healthy Buggs is more concern than LB play IMO.

 

[BamaSon25]

@TerryP

You are 100% correct comparing UGA to au is apples and oranges. They are more like LSU in their attack.

In spirit of keeping with the intent of this thread.... what do you think about the LBs we currently have and the 3 yards issue? Is it schemes that are making us look bad at the spot? It very well could be. Danielson even went as far as to call Mack one of the best cover LBS in the country. I never really considered that, but if his first step is always backwards that could explain a lot. BAMA lbs play downhill... maybe I am just not used to seeING this.

 

[TerryP]

In spirit of keeping with the intent of this thread.... what do you think about the LBs we currently have and the 3 yards issue? Is it schemes that are making us look bad at the spot?

In my view, it's mental. Mack has shown a tendency to play with a lot of emotion early and then settle as the game progresses. We've seen him get pulled out of position more than a few times this season.

I can't speak for his plans after this season but he is one guy that would blossom (more than he already has) with another year within the system.

It's been a bit of a unique year when you consider the different styles of offensive schemes this team has faced.

 

[rolltide66]

seems the play calling is too much for these ILB's not sure why, but they both seem to be playing a bit slow at times and get caught up just wanting to play fast and bust heads and like the delay screen against Aubie Mack went to the head busting and missed his coverage

 

[BamaFan334]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

That is not what you said last week and argued with me.

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BamaSon25
Nov 18, 2018
#30
gc90 said:
the problem isnt that we didnt do so well against triple option... our run defense is going to be an issue against GA.
Edge runs especially
No it wont man. We have the speed to get out there. We have the players to shut down the run.... ask LSU

And we do... I was asking specifically about the LB spots inside. I do feel like we have underachieved there. Blocking 92 is no easy task and the rest of the d line has played great. It's just scary when they are 3 yards past the line of scrimmage before they meet any resistance from the LBs. I think it may be schemes as we seem to be dropping 30 into coverage a lot. I do think we are still better than 90% of the other teams, so it isn't all gloom and doom from me. Everything I said above is true. I don't appreciate your combative nature. If you have a problem with something I have said...spit it out. Otherwise, you need more than the above statement before you start calling me out. And since you have taken it there.... why the hell can't you ever say anything positive?

Underachieved. Two Butkus semi-finalists and one being a finalists? Not much underachieving there.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I don't get that Mack is the verbal, film study alfa that Rolando, Hightower, Mosely, was. That said, it's certainly not physical ability, he was player of the week vs Mizzou and both he and Dylan were on the Butkis semifinal list this year. Personally, I think he's the most gifted cover LBer we've had. Just needs to be more consistent. Another year at Bama sounds pretty good.

 

[BamaSon25]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

That is not what you said last week and argued with me.

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BamaSon25
Nov 18, 2018
#30
gc90 said:
the problem isnt that we didnt do so well against triple option... our run defense is going to be an issue against GA.
Edge runs especially
No it wont man. We have the speed to get out there. We have the players to shut down the run.... ask LSU

And we do... I was asking specifically about the LB spots inside. I do feel like we have underachieved there. Blocking 92 is no easy task and the rest of the d line has played great. It's just scary when they are 3 yards past the line of scrimmage before they meet any resistance from the LBs. I think it may be schemes as we seem to be dropping 30 into coverage a lot. I do think we are still better than 90% of the other teams, so it isn't all gloom and doom from me. Everything I said above is true. I don't appreciate your combative nature. If you have a problem with something I have said...spit it out. Otherwise, you need more than the above statement before you start calling me out. And since you have taken it there.... why the hell can't you ever say anything positive?

Underachieved. Two Butkus semi-finalists and one being a finalists? Not much underachieving there.

Point taken and i did say that i felt lIke we were still bether than 90% of them out there....but I guess what I am saying is that when someone runs up the middle on us...we do not seem to be getting to them like we have in years past. You don't run up middle on Bama, but this year we seem to be giving some yards up there. It may be a combination of everything that's been mentioned...schemes, not being comfortable with the plays, emotions.... all of it.

 

[94 Grad]

Have we actually played a power run team yet this year?

UGa will score some points, they have too much talent to not score... however, I don't really see them slowing our Offense down. So my feeling is that as long as we don't get in our own way, we win this game. Key factor is getting a lead and making them move away from the running game into the passing game.

 

[BamaFan334]

Is it just me or does anyone else see us as being weak at the LB spots? I mean it seems like if you get a block on 92.... you are going to get 3 yards before any type of contact. I know we kind of revamped our lb criteria.... meaning we got away from the bigger guys and went to smaller, fast lbs, but honestly, we never had a problem getting to the outside with the Hightowers, Raglands and Fosters of yesteryear. I've said it before this season, I think Wilson was supposed to fill that hole and has underachieved. He hasn't played bad, just hasn't been the headhunter I expected. Our run D is a bit scary right now to me. Thoughts?

That is not what you said last week and argued with me.

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BamaSon25
Nov 18, 2018
#30
gc90 said:
the problem isnt that we didnt do so well against triple option... our run defense is going to be an issue against GA.
Edge runs especially
No it wont man. We have the speed to get out there. We have the players to shut down the run.... ask LSU

And we do... I was asking specifically about the LB spots inside. I do feel like we have underachieved there. Blocking 92 is no easy task and the rest of the d line has played great. It's just scary when they are 3 yards past the line of scrimmage before they meet any resistance from the LBs. I think it may be schemes as we seem to be dropping 30 into coverage a lot. I do think we are still better than 90% of the other teams, so it isn't all gloom and doom from me. Everything I said above is true. I don't appreciate your combative nature. If you have a problem with something I have said...spit it out. Otherwise, you need more than the above statement before you start calling me out. And since you have taken it there.... why the hell can't you ever say anything positive?

Underachieved. Two Butkus semi-finalists and one being a finalists? Not much underachieving there.

Point taken and i did say that i felt lIke we were still bether than 90% of them out there....but I guess what I am saying is that when someone runs up the middle on us...we do not seem to be getting to them like we have in years past. You don't run up middle on Bama, but this year we seem to be giving some yards up there. It may be a combination of everything that's been mentioned...schemes, not being comfortable with the plays, emotions.... all of it.

I see what you are saying now. I would think it's more scheme and a little bit of missed assignment, which happens to every player here and there. We also don't recruit the big 6'4-6'5 230-250 pound backers anymore, so sometimes these runners fall forward or get a push from their fellow linemen that help against a guy that's 6'0-6'3 - 220 pounds.

 

[jdpas29]

i thought the D played a pretty good game... i mean sans lucky BS pass play that should have been broken up or picked and a well executed throwback trick play, what did Auburn really do? As I stated earlier, Auburn could have some big plays and score a few points but sustained drives were unlikely. That was the case.

I expect similar results with UGA with the exception that they have better receivers that will actually catch the passes thrown to them, they don't do many trick plays that I have seen, and they also run block better than the Barn. UGA has been somewhere around the 30 point mark against most all of the decent teams they have played. This is a team that LSU hung a bunch of points, 275 yards rushing, and 200 passing on so obviously they have some problems on defense.

LSU sacked Fromm 4 times and he throws 2 picks. LSU defense destroyed this team.

BAma would have to have a complete "off day" on offense for this game to get out of hand in UGA's favor. could it be a close game? yes. In that case, I think QB play and RB ability still favors Alabama. Defense also favors Bama. UGA has better kicking game... that is all.

 

[TerryP]

Have we actually played a power run team yet this year?

More than one, but we can start with A&M.

What's interesting to me is we saw the same thing with the Aggies as we've seen with a few other teams. The defense wasn't getting "ran through." They did have breakdowns that led to their yards.

 

[alabama mike]

The LB play has been a concern all season on the dump passes to the middle. We are now at the end of the season and the same mistakes that happened early are still being made with blown coverage's and mental mistakes. Those mistakes cannot be made against UGA because CKS will exploit them in a hurry.

 

[94 Grad]

Have we actually played a power run team yet this year?

More than one, but we can start with A&M.

What's interesting to me is we saw the same thing with the Aggies as we've seen with a few other teams. The defense wasn't getting "ran through." They did have breakdowns that led to their yards.

Not sure I would classify aTm as a power run team. Their 2nd leading rusher is the QB and Trayveon Williams isn't what I would consider a power running back.

I honestly don't think we've seen a rushing game like what UGa has/uses. Not saying they are world beaters in the running game, but I do think they will try to control the clock with the running game and force us to stop that first.

I think Swift and Hollyfield will be a handful for us to stop without bringing down a safety. It could be the first team the make us do that this year...

 

[UAgrad93]

Have we actually played a power run team yet this year?

More than one, but we can start with A&M.

What's interesting to me is we saw the same thing with the Aggies as we've seen with a few other teams. The defense wasn't getting "ran through." They did have breakdowns that led to their yards.

Not sure I would classify aTm as a power run team. Their 2nd leading rusher is the QB and Trayveon Williams isn't what I would consider a power running back.

I honestly don't think we've seen a rushing game like what UGa has/uses. Not saying they are world beaters in the running game, but I do think they will try to control the clock with the running game and force us to stop that first.

I think Swift and Hollyfield will be a handful for us to stop without bringing down a safety. It could be the first team the make us do that this year...

A&M and Miss State are both power run teams, as well as the Barn. Doesn't matter if they are QB runs or not. It is in the line blocking schemes. Pulling linemen and just straight up man on man is the key.

 

[94 Grad]

Have we actually played a power run team yet this year?

More than one, but we can start with A&M.

What's interesting to me is we saw the same thing with the Aggies as we've seen with a few other teams. The defense wasn't getting "ran through." They did have breakdowns that led to their yards.

Not sure I would classify aTm as a power run team. Their 2nd leading rusher is the QB and Trayveon Williams isn't what I would consider a power running back.

I honestly don't think we've seen a rushing game like what UGa has/uses. Not saying they are world beaters in the running game, but I do think they will try to control the clock with the running game and force us to stop that first.

I think Swift and Hollyfield will be a handful for us to stop without bringing down a safety. It could be the first team the make us do that this year...

A&M and Miss State are both power run teams, as well as the Barn. Doesn't matter if they are QB runs or not. It is in the line blocking schemes. Pulling linemen and just straight up man on man is the key.

Yes, I understand that... but didn't think they ran that scheme.