🏈 Jeremy Pruitt seeks court order against NCAA to allow hire by FBS school

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Little doubt in my mind Pruitt would be really good if he stepped back into an SEC DC role. He's just too football smart to fail, IMO. Obviously, he'd need payers, but I think you get what I'm saying.

But....

Terry touched on it. I've also mentioned it a week ago...

All of this said, if he became available and Bama needed a DC, I’d be all aboard the Venables train. And unlike Pruitt, who I think was the best Saban ever had, IMO Venables and this staff would mesh pretty well. But, that’s LaLa Land stuff as we sit here today.

Pruitt would be an excellent DC. But IMO it would be far from an excellent fit with DeBoer. Not that they couldn't make it work, but he may not be comfortable going that route.

 

[TerryP]

It was, and was really good in 17, and would've been good his entire tenure there had he stayed.

That was eight years ago. The game has changed drastically. Specifically, the players.

All I am saying is this. It's a waste of time to think of such. Ain't gonna happen.

And, the suggestion of who is the person that he puts on the staff? No. It's like pointing to a certain coach lately without thinking about Neal Brown in the same situation.

Ya don't know.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

That was eight years ago. The game has changed drastically. Specifically, the players.

You mean with NIL? Because if so, I think he'd adjust pretty well to that. Lol.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

That was eight years ago. The game has changed drastically. Specifically, the players.

All I am saying is this. It's a waste of time to think of such. Ain't gonna happen.

And, the suggestion of who is the person that he puts on the staff? No. It's like pointing to a certain coach lately without thinking about Neal Brown in the same situation.

Ya don't know.

And again, from a schematical standpoint. It's not a drastic change as some people seem to think. If y'all want to go deeper into this, we can. Now everything else, maybe. From an nil standpoint, the current structure of building, and retaining a roster. It's TBD if he could live in that world. But in my opinion, he would be able to.

I've stated my opinion on him regarding being the DC at Alabama. I think it would work, some don't. Agree to disagree.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

Terry touched on it. I've also mentioned it a week ago...



Pruitt would be an excellent DC. But IMO it would be far from an excellent fit with DeBoer. Not that they couldn't make it work, but he may not be comfortable going that route.

I'm curious, is the thought of Pruitt not being a good fit for deboer and this staff stem from what happened at Georgia?

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I'm curious, is the thought of Pruitt not being a good fit for deboer and this staff stem from what happened at Georgia?

Personality.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

Personality.

That's what I meant. Richt-Pruitt clashing over all kinds of different stuff. And it's a valid concern, and maybe deboer and Pruitt would have the same problems, who knows. But when I go back and watch the 16-17 ILB group.... it makes me want to take that chance, lol. Even if he wasn't the DC here, I'd love for him to come in and be the ILB coach again. I fucking NEED that kind of ILB play again.

 

[Justneedme81]

That's what I meant. Richt-Pruitt clashing over all kinds of different stuff. And it's a valid concern, and maybe deboer and Pruitt would have the same problems, who knows. But when I go back and watch the 16-17 ILB group.... it makes me want to take that chance, lol. Even if he wasn't the DC here, I'd love for him to come in and be the ILB coach again. I fucking NEED that kind of ILB play again.

I saw your response give me a moment... I'm handling trick and treat tonight.

 

[TerryP]

I'm curious, is the thought of Pruitt not being a good fit for deboer and this staff stem from what happened at Georgia?

I have to wonder if you know Pruitt.

Little doubt in my mind Pruitt would be really good if he stepped back into an SEC DC role. He's just too football smart to fail, IMO. Obviously, he'd need payers, but I think you get what I'm saying.

But....

Terry touched on it. I've also mentioned it a week ago...



Pruitt would be an excellent DC. But IMO it would be far from an excellent fit with DeBoer. Not that they couldn't make it work, but he may not be comfortable going that route.

That's the point

He is a dick. Would he work well in this era?

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

That's the point

Like I said, valid concern. But if we can bring him on in any capacity whatsoever, whether it be the DC, positions coach, analyst.... whatever. I'm willing to take the chance.

Something that I'm concerned with is what @Brandon Van de Graaff has stated before regarding Pruitt and Greg sankey. He may not be thrilled with the idea of him coming back to Alabama. In all likelihood, I know this probably won't happen. But anytime this comes up, I will sing his praises as a DC, and as an ILB coach, and hope he comes back at some point.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

He is a dick. Would he work well in this era?

He was an excellent recruiter, lol.

 

[OldPlayer]

It’s not Pruitt’s coaching that’s at issue. He violated NCAA rules. Alabama has already dealt with NCAA punishment and they don’t want to have to go through that again. Sure, Pruitt may be rehabilitated due to his punishment, but why take the risk? Saban was good at rehabilitating coaches (Sarkisian, Kiffin, Jones, O’Brien) but is DeBoer?

 

[TerryP]

It’s not Pruitt’s coaching that’s at issue.

We don't know that. I think it's safe to say there's no way he can run the same defense today as he did then. It's more than safe to say his coaching style would have to change.

I loved what he brought. I loved how he worked within Saban's defensive system. We still saw the break downs and big plays then as we do now.

We have seen the offenses continually evolve before, during, and after he left Tuscaloosa. We haven't seen him evolve with defending those offenses. He didn't lack talent at UT.

I'm not saying he's in Jimbo territory: we don't know how close.

 

[mando]

We don't know that. I think it's safe to say there's no way he can run the same defense today as he did then. It's more than safe to say his coaching style would have to change.

I loved what he brought. I loved how he worked within Saban's defensive system. We still saw the break downs and big plays then as we do now.

We have seen the offenses continually evolve before, during, and after he left Tuscaloosa. We haven't seen him evolve with defending those offenses. He didn't lack talent at UT.

I'm not saying he's in Jimbo territory: we don't know how close.

I know you are going to say it is because of todays game is different (but not clarify that statement) and this old relic has to change the standard and you may be right. What we did not see was a D that averaged 150+ ypg against the run, We did not see a DL that would get pushed around physically. Maybe that is the current players versus the players he had and that might be true.

I am curious if you can clarify technically what has changed so much that he would have a hard time?

I honestly have no idea if he would struggle or not. I know he had much better defenses than what we are seeing these days and for that matter the last 5 years.

Know would he be fit under DeBoer? That I completely understand the point.

 

[TerryP]

What we did not see was a D that averaged 150+ ypg against the run, We did not see a DL that would get pushed around physically. Maybe that is the current players versus the players he had and that might be true.

And again. Scoreboard.

Tell me about points per drive.
Tell me about how much time is being consumed by allowing teams to run.
Tell me about how this defense has held the top scoring offenses, in the nation, to half of their normal totals. The top running back in the conference to half of what he normally gets.

It's just like Nate Oats' basketballs style. People are looking at the wrong things. In this specific case; efficiency. Yards between the 20's don't matter.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

We don't know that. I think it's safe to say there's no way he can run the same defense today as he did then. It's more than safe to say his coaching style would have to change.

I loved what he brought. I loved how he worked within Saban's defensive system. We still saw the break downs and big plays then as we do now.

We have seen the offenses continually evolve before, during, and after he left Tuscaloosa. We haven't seen him evolve with defending those offenses. He didn't lack talent at UT.

I'm not saying he's in Jimbo territory: we don't know how close.

I'm about to head to bed, gonna wake up and watch the games in a few hours. But, at some point tomorrow, I'm going to post film of Pruitt's defenses against the offenses you think he can't defend.

Like I stated earlier in the thread, he's seen these modern offenses. It's not a foreign concept to him. Some teams he absolutely shut down, some had success against him(Ole Miss 2016).

And regarding his defensive system, he ran what we currently run now. Front wise were usually in mint, 3 down lineman and a jack backer(or whatever other terminology you want to use, means the same thing either way). The ends are usually in a 4i technique, and the nose is in a 0 technique. Based on the alignment this can change. Pruitt would go 4 down at times, same with wommack now. And again, based on the alignment, we sometimes will be in a traditional 3-4, or is called, in an under front. But we're predominantly in mint. Still run certain coverages the same that we did under Pruitt. Still teach the ILB's the same techniques, shedding blocks, keying reads, triangle reads, you name it.

Point is, the way he coaches, schemes up, and gameplans isn't outdated. And I'll show you at some point tomorrow.

And going back to the fronts I was talking about. Here is Alabama in mint in 2016, to this year against Tennessee.

 

[TerryP]

I'm about to head to bed, gonna wake up and watch the games in a few hours. But, at some point tomorrow, I'm going to post film of Pruitt's defenses against the offenses you think he can't defend.

Read what I said, again. I said, "we don't know."

He would not have the talent today as he did then. So, any video about what he did then versus now? Moot. Not only have the offenses changed, the disparity in talent has as well.

I tire of "what it was" versus "what it is" when "what it was" led to phrases like "3rd and Kirby" but no one wants to remember.

And again. If you look at the efficiency numbers do you want a change at DC? If so, why? YPG versus PPG?

I am NOT suggesting we don't see changes on that side of the ball in the off-season. I see the infatuation with Pruitt, here,now, as misguided.

We know who he is. We know who DeBoer is. We don't know if, or how, they would mesh.

And, to say the least, you're looking at shaking up a pretty good defense.

More important things for me to think about right now and it ain't your diet. It's mine.

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Oct 31, 2025

• TerryP
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• Forum: Our Lives

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

He didn't lack talent at UT.

As for his time at Tennessee, from the get go I thought it wasn't going to work out. He was walking into a shitshow, they had been a shit show for years at that point. And to add on top of that, he had that fucking Phil looming over him. I still wish to this day he would've waited on a better job.

But, all that aside. I think Pruitt is one of these guys that are fantastic Coordinators, but an abysmal head coach. Bud Elliott knew this, and look how regarded he is now. If he ever gets the opportunity, and God knows when that would be, he could redeem himself at some point as a head coach. Probably not in the power 4, but maybe the sun belt, or Conference Usa? Plenty of coaches have done that as well. Even if he doesn't come to Alabama as the DC, or the ILB's coach, or even as an analyst.... I still want to see him back in coaching somewhere. He's too great of a defensive mind to just let sit there and do nothing.

 

[TerryP]

@Scrape&Search1032 let me add one more thought.

Dabo had a great run with a consistent staff. When that fell apart...
Kirby had a great run with a consistent staff. It's falling apart ...
Saban had great staff's until it became a chore to hire the same ... when that fell apart.

Now, we have a staff with some consistency, and you're wanting it torn apart?

I fail to see the logic.

 

[TerryP]

As for his time at Tennessee, from the get go I thought it wasn't going to work out. He was walking into a shitshow, they had been a shit show for years at that point. And to add on top of that, he had that fucking Phil looming over him. I still wish to this day he would've waited on a better job.

Which has what to do with talent or scheme? Fulmer's involvement in practices, documented, was with the offensive line.