🏈 Jalen or Tua? Bobby Bowden says 'Nick can't go wrong'

[Tidestalker]

What I find amazing is that folks don't (or didn't) know how to generate a screen shot in 2018...

No kidding! Talk about embarrassing! :five:

Have you ever wondered what that key labeled "Print Screen" might do?

FWIW, Snipping tool works great and it's built into Windows later versions. I want to say it was stock when they released Win Vista. It's been around under different names since '01 or '02.

NOW, back in the '90's...I thought everyone knew Win Key + PrtSc, MS Paint > Ctrl V ... did the same thing.

And, for your PSA, Snag-It is what I have on my home PC's and I use it, occasionally, at work. I won't tell you how...but I will tell you that it's possible to download the program, find a security key online, and use it as much as you'd like...wouldn't want to promote piracy or anything of its ilk (said as I'm looking over someone else's code in an template modification and "adjusting it to fit.")

No worries fellas, by evidence of the Ridley wide open in the endzone image, I figured out the extremely complicated screen shot system incorporated with a Windows 10 lap top. I will forever be changed! Thanks to all those who've patiently stomached my lack of technological advancement... I'm forever indebted!

 

[alagator]

No worries fellas, by evidence of the Ridley wide open in the endzone image,

And yet you've still avoided the pertinent question. Where were the passing lanes to hit that "wide open Ridley?" Both guys here are right. They are not there.

Can someone make that throw through that tiny window? Yes. About as often as they throw an interception through that window.

 

[T&B]

I would like to add that the debate over this one play is great for conversation, but its not the "smoking gun" that proves whether Hurts can see the field or not.

Can we not all agree without it being some personal attack on Jalen Hurts the human being, that over a two year period of trial and terror that has played out directly in front of our eyes that he simply can not read a defense, see receivers "as they come open," and deliver the ball "on time," with accuracy ? He can't do it. Does that mean he's never done it ? No. It means more times than not he has no idea what he is looking at from play to play, and the offense has been simplified, and simplified, until finally opposing defenses know what we are doing before Jalen knows what we are doing, and the numbers reflect that.

 

[T&B]

Can we get a screen shot of how open Ridley was in the endzone when Hurts sailed the ball over his head in the first quarter of the title game ? Can we get a zoomed in screen shot of Ridleys face so we can see the expression of WTF on his face ? What was that a fifteen yard pass ? I cant remember.

hahaha

 

[T&B]

Herbstreit: Hurts' QB play impacting Ridley's draft stock

Kirk Herbstreit concurs with the idea that Alabama junior quarterback Jalen Hurts’ play has impacted receiver Calvin Ridley’s NFL draft stock.

And not in a good way.

“It’s only fair to (Ridley) to be honest and real,” the ESPN college football analyst said during Tuesday's media call. “He’s worked with great coordinators. Lane Kiffin. Brian Daboll. I think Brian, as the year went on, for whatever reason, the offense kind of leveled off and I think it had a lot to do with Jalen.”

“They became a little bit more conservative,” Herbstreit said. “A little bit more predictable. A little bit more, hey, the defense and running game aren’t going to hurt you. Let’s not lose the game at the quarterback position.”

Hurts went 3-for-8 passing for 21 yards against Georgia in the first half of the title game as he overthrew Ridley in the end zone.

Down 13-0 at halftime, Nick Saban turned to Tagovailoa, who threw three touchdowns in the 26-23 epic overtime win in Atlanta. The true freshman found Ridley in a crowd for a score on fourth down to tie the game at 20-20 in the fourth quarter.

“When Tua came into the game, it was as if the receivers, their eyes lit up and it was like, here we go,” Herbstreit said. “Let’s make some plays and they really took off in the second half and I think you saw a different type of production in the passing game.”

 

[TerryP]

I would like to add that the debate over this one play is great for conversation, but its not the "smoking gun" that proves whether Hurts can see the field or not.

On the same line, UGA shouldn't be considered the "be all, tell all" with Tua.

Can we not all agree without it being some personal attack on Jalen Hurts the human being, that over a two year period of trial and terror that has played out directly in front of our eyes that he simply can not read a defense, see receivers "as they come open," and deliver the ball "on time," with accuracy ? He can't do it. Does that mean he's never done it ? No. It means more times than not he has no idea what he is looking at from play to play, and the offense has been simplified, and simplified, until finally opposing defenses know what we are doing before Jalen knows what we are doing, and the numbers reflect that.

@50+yeartidefan just asked a question that answered what you're asking and you're right. He has.

This all started with one statement: don't be to quick to write Jalen off along with don't be to quick to anoint Tua.

Changing the subject, slightly...

Who is the best passing QB you've ever seen in the SEC? My answer (and I hate to say it) is Peyton--a QB with how many CFB NC rings?

No one has ever denied the talent Tua may possess. We've all seen the potential. BUT, the one most often seen things in collegiate football is unfulfilled talent and expectations. Some would say we're seeing that with Jalen and those same people would likely say we won't see it with Tua.

On a lighter note...

What was the terminology used to describe Bo last year at this time? He's made out of glass, or something like that? We've seen two injuries with Tua in spring camp. Yet, no mention of his durability.

(I still go back to thinking about how everyone wrote off Jason Campbell. Or, how many people still anoint Gary Hollingsworth as one of the best QB's of Bama's history.)

 

[alagator]

“When Tua came into the game, it was as if the receivers, their eyes lit up and it was like, here we go,” Herbstreit said. “Let’s make some plays and they really took off in the second half and I think you saw a different type of production in the passing game.”

I really love this line, "it was as if the receivers, their eyes lit up and it was it was like, here we go."

It was "as if." But, if you look, people say "their eyes light up when Tua came in." The two are not the same thing.

 

[T&B]

@BamaBoyJosh You better get a bigger can of troll spray because there are a lot more articles by "trolls?" suggesting Hurts has no clue what he is doing in the passing game. To the point where he literally damages WR's draft stock, which in turn damages Bamas ability to recruit playmakers.

Herbstreit: Hurts' QB play impacting Ridley's draft stock

Kirk Herbstreit concurs with the idea that Alabama junior quarterback Jalen Hurts’ play has impacted receiver Calvin Ridley’s NFL draft stock.

And not in a good way.

“It’s only fair to (Ridley) to be honest and real,” the ESPN college football analyst said during Tuesday's media call. “He’s worked with great coordinators. Lane Kiffin. Brian Daboll. I think Brian, as the year went on, for whatever reason, the offense kind of leveled off and I think it had a lot to do with Jalen.”

“They became a little bit more conservative,” Herbstreit said. “A little bit more predictable. A little bit more, hey, the defense and running game aren’t going to hurt you. Let’s not lose the game at the quarterback position.”

Hurts went 3-for-8 passing for 21 yards against Georgia in the first half of the title game as he overthrew Ridley in the end zone.

Down 13-0 at halftime, Nick Saban turned to Tagovailoa, who threw three touchdowns in the 26-23 epic overtime win in Atlanta. The true freshman found Ridley in a crowd for a score on fourth down to tie the game at 20-20 in the fourth quarter.

“When Tua came into the game, it was as if the receivers, their eyes lit up and it was like, here we go,” Herbstreit said. “Let’s make some plays and they really took off in the second half and I think you saw a different type of production in the passing game.”

 

[#80]

CNS can't go wrong as long as we are not playing elite competition.

 

[TUSKtimes]

CNS can't go wrong as long as we are not playing elite competition.

Or Ole Miss.

 

[Tidestalker]

No worries fellas, by evidence of the Ridley wide open in the endzone image,

And yet you've still avoided the pertinent question. Where were the passing lanes to hit that "wide open Ridley?" Both guys here are right. They are not there.

Can someone make that throw through that tiny window? Yes. About as often as they throw an interception through that window.

Loft it right over the defense... Ya know, the flat footed LB's.... Where your WIDE OPEN RECEIVER is running in the OPEN GREEN GRASS.

Would you need a "window" for a go route when the receiver breaks free?!

Holy crap... I couldn't imagine if we were asking Jalen to make a difficult throw/read. This would be brutal

 

[T&B]

CNS can't go wrong as long as we are not playing elite competition.

Or Ole Miss.

Or Mississippi State

 

[Max]

Loft it right over the defense... Ya know, the flat footed LB's.... Where your WIDE OPEN RECEIVER is running in the OPEN GREEN GRASS.

You continue to prove how little you've looked at Clemson, or the play.

Flat footed linebackers. Geez. Try All-American linebackers with interceptions on their resumes. This ain't Vinnie we're talking about as you've been suggested to consider earlier.

 

[JoshB]

CNS can't go wrong as long as we are not playing elite competition.

Or Ole Miss.

Or Mississippi State

When the hell has Saban lost to MSU? Ironic you bring that up considering Jalen is the guy that led Alabama back against MSU last year and Ole Miss the year before. Weird for a guy that "isn't a QB."

 

[TUSKtimes]

When the hell has Saban lost to MSU? Ironic you bring that up considering Jalen is the guy that led Alabama back against MSU last year and Ole Miss the year before. Weird for a guy that "isn't a QB."

2007. Was that a trick question?

 

[JoshB]

When the hell has Saban lost to MSU? Ironic you bring that up considering Jalen is the guy that led Alabama back against MSU last year and Ole Miss the year before. Weird for a guy that "isn't a QB."

2007. Was that a trick question?

No, it was to show you how dumb a comment that was. Thought maybe you might pick a team he's lost to, ya know, in the past decade...

 

[TUSKtimes]

No, it was to show you how dumb a comment that was. Thought maybe you might pick a team he's lost to, ya know, in the past decade...

I did, Ole Miss, twice.

 

[JoshB]

No, it was to show you how dumb a comment that was. Thought maybe you might pick a team he's lost to, ya know, in the past decade...

I did, Ole Miss, twice.

That should have been directed at the other dork.

 

[TUSKtimes]

That should have been directed at the other dork.

And yet you seem to be the only one struggling with context.

 

[T&B]

led Alabama back against MSU

Is this where we are ? Needing to come back vs Cowbell U ?

The offense would have hung 50 on them with Tua distributing the ball. Moo State roster has no business taking Bama the distance.