| FTBL From S'port Times: Time to get over it

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Time to get over this whole Saban thing. Nick Saban is the football coach at Alabama. It is a fact of life that some segments of LSU fandom apparently don't want to accept.


Finally someone else is encouraging logical thinking.

 

[Referee]

Is he making $4 Million?

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

Great article. Unfortunately I don't think we've heard the last of the LSU minions. Next year we go to Baton Rouge and it will be alive and well. And the best thing for us will be to leave with a win.

 

[bear facts]

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/SPORTS0401/801020311/1001/SPORTS

Time to get over this whole Saban thing. Nick Saban is the football coach at Alabama. It is a fact of life that some segments of LSU fandom apparently don't want to accept.


Finally someone else is encouraging logical thinking.

Yep, I know exactly what the Alabama fan was talking about in the email. It was a very surreal atmosphere to say the least.

Though my son and I did not personally encounter the taunting or crazy LSU antics/confrontations that I'm sure occurred, I could not believe what we witnessed. It appeared as if the LSU fanbase had actually organized some sort of "LSU sit-in/stand-in rally" for the I-Bowl. Too many of these folks showed up for something not to have been orchestrated or planned. Though the older Tiger fans seemed to be there to support the SEC, another faction was also there to simply flaunt their "LSU-corndogness."

In fact, as we made our way into the stadium, my son made the comment that it looked more like we were going to an ALABAMA/LSU game than to the one that was playing. There was even a truck set up for tailgating that had a large inflatable LSU Tiger blown up in its truckbed. And I could not believe the number of LSU fans that showed up wearing their LSU game-day apparel and regalia. It's one thing to show school pride, but it's another thing to walk around like a bunch of coon-ass peacocks, as if to say, "Look at me, I'm a LSU fan." And yes, you could tell there was a contingent of LSU fans looking for trouble, and I'm sure some of them found it, too.

What I really found ridiculous and down-right laughable, though, happened right before the game started as I was standing in line at the concession stand. First, I look over to the line next to mine and there is this one token Auburn fan decked out as if he's attending a game at Jordan Hare. The Bama fan in front of me turned and joked about how the Barner couldn't even find his way to Atlanta.

It was then that I noticed the person waiting directly behind me was dressed in Colorado gear. The guy donned a nice Colorado sock cap, Colorado sweatshirt, and jacket. So trying to be hospitable, I started to strike up a conversation and things went like this:

Me: "So how far did you have to travel to make this game?

Fan in Colorado garb: "Oh, I'm not a Colorado fan; I'm a LSU fan and I hate Alabama!"

I almost busted out laughing in the dude's face, thinking this guy just spent at least a $100.00 dollars on Colorado stuff and he ain't even a Colorado fan, but I was able to keep composed and continued on with the next question.

Me: "Well tell me then, why do you hate Alabama like you do?"

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "Because y'all took Saban from us."

Me: "Excuse me, say what?"

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "Y'all took Saban from LSU."

Me: "If I'm not mistaken, Saban left LSU to go coach the Miami Dolphins."

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "He did, but y'all paid him $4 million dollars to leave and become the head coach at Alabama."

Me: "Has the thought ever occurred to you that if Alabama hadn't made Saban such an offer that some other university would have?"

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "It don't matter; he's still y'all's coach."

Me: "Yes he is, but let me ask you this: why should Bama having Saban even bother you? LSU has Les Miles."

I wish you could have seen the look that came over this corndog's face. You could tell the guy wanted to say something but either couldn't get it out or didn't quite know how to say it. But after an awkward pause he finally replied as serious as can be.

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "That's the problem; I don't know what to think of Les Miles."

Me: "I guess you'll find out in two or three years from now."

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "I guess so."

End of conversation.


Yes, the LSU fandom's appearance & behavior at the Independence Bowl was truly a bizarre demonstration.

Other than having to endure that "jilted LSU mentality," I'm glad we made the trip. My son and I had a great time. We even found the four drunks in front of us an entertaining bunch.

 

[bamafan4ever]

Yet, Factor, there are those who insist that pulling for LSU is the "right" thing as a member of the SEC.

If it were ANY of the other member institutions other than LSU, AU and UT, I would pull for them. I even pulled for the Gators last year but I just can't bring myself to pull for a team and fan base that has such ill-will against the Tide that they would attend the I-Bowl just to show their collective ass.

 

[bear facts]

Yet, Factor, there are those who insist that pulling for LSU is the "right" thing as a member of the SEC.

If it were ANY of the other member institutions other than LSU, AU and UT, I would pull for them. I even pulled for the Gators last year but I just can't bring myself to pull for a team and fan base that has such ill-will against the Tide that they would attend the I-Bowl just to show their collective ass.

I feel much the same way, Greg. I hate it for my wife, though, because she is one of those LSU fans, who does not go to such extremes, but observing such corndog antics reinforces my previous stance and overrides any feeling about pulling for my wife's team.

Heck, I earned a degree from LSU and can't even bring myself to pull for the Tigers to win the NC because of the obnoxious behavior I've witnessed by their fans since Saban has become head coach.

 

[kudzu]

Incredible story BF. It's not far from getting out of hand and almost down right scary!

What perplexes me about the whole situation is..
1. We didn't take coach Saban from them but they can't understand that. He wanted back in college FB.
If the WV job or Mich. job would have been open at that time he probably would have went. He did not come here to spite LSU. He wants a chance at a MNC and most any school that could have offered that through various opportunities could have landed his services. It's just a fact.

2. Out of one side of their mouth LSU fans hate his guts and he's a sorry ^%$% lier,not a good coach,
basically scum but....they want him back.
I don't know how to or can't understand that.
Seems as close as I can get is if Fran went to the Barn. I don't like Fran and regardless of where he goes my feelings won't change. I don't understand where they are coming from,I truly don't.

 

[bear facts]

Incredible story BF. It's not far from getting out of hand and almost down right scary!

What perplexes me about the whole situation is..
1. We didn't take coach Saban from them but they can't understand that. He wanted back in college FB.
If the WV job or Mich. job would have been open at that time he probably would have went. He did not come here to spite LSU. He wants a chance at a MNC and most any school that could have offered that through various opportunities could have landed his services. It's just a fact.

2. Out of one side of their mouth LSU fans hate his guts and he's a sorry ^%$% lier,not a good coach,
basically scum but....they want him back.
I don't know how to or can't understand that.
Seems as close as I can get is if Fran went to the Barn. I don't like Fran and regardless of where he goes my feelings won't change. I don't understand where they are coming from,I truly don't.

Kudzu, I found this comment on another site. It possibly explains some of that "orchestrated" LSU behavior.

Yep, they were promoting it on the local sports radio show the day the bowl was announced. They were trying to get all the local LSU fans to buy up all the tickets that CU didn't buy and all the tickets outside the alloted 12,000 to Bama.

I honestly was hesitant about posting my bowl game experience, mainly because I didn't want folks thinking that I was exaggerating. After reading on another site about other Bama fans' Independence Bowl experiences, my story does not seem much like a yarn.

 

[Teague13]

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/SPORTS0401/801020311/1001/SPORTS

Time to get over this whole Saban thing. Nick Saban is the football coach at Alabama. It is a fact of life that some segments of LSU fandom apparently don't want to accept.


Finally someone else is encouraging logical thinking.

Yep, I know exactly what the Alabama fan was talking about in the email. It was a very surreal atmosphere to say the least.

Though my son and I did not personally encounter the taunting or crazy LSU antics/confrontations that I'm sure occurred, I could not believe what we witnessed. It appeared as if the LSU fanbase had actually organized some sort of "LSU sit-in/stand-in rally" for the I-Bowl. Too many of these folks showed up for something not to have been orchestrated or planned. Though the older Tiger fans seemed to be there to support the SEC, another faction was also there to simply flaunt their "LSU-corndogness."

In fact, as we made our way into the stadium, my son made the comment that it looked more like we were going to an ALABAMA/LSU game than to the one that was playing. There was even a truck set up for tailgating that had a large inflatable LSU Tiger blown up in its truckbed. And I could not believe the number of LSU fans that showed up wearing their LSU game-day apparel and regalia. It's one thing to show school pride, but it's another thing to walk around like a bunch of coon-ass peacocks, as if to say, "Look at me, I'm a LSU fan." And yes, you could tell there was a contingent of LSU fans looking for trouble, and I'm sure some of them found it, too.

What I really found ridiculous and down-right laughable, though, happened right before the game started as I was standing in line at the concession stand. First, I look over to the line next to mine and there is this one token Auburn fan decked out as if he's attending a game at Jordan Hare. The Bama fan in front of me turned and joked about how the Barner couldn't even find his way to Atlanta.

It was then that I noticed the person waiting directly behind me was dressed in Colorado gear. The guy donned a nice Colorado sock cap, Colorado sweatshirt, and jacket. So trying to be hospitable, I started to strike up a conversation and things went like this:

Me: "So how far did you have to travel to make this game?

Fan in Colorado garb: "Oh, I'm not a Colorado fan; I'm a LSU fan and I hate Alabama!"

I almost busted out laughing in dude's face, thinking this guy just spent at least a $100.00 dollars on Colorado stuff and he ain't even a Colorado fan, but I was able to keep composed and continued on with the next question.

Me: "Well tell me then, why do you hate Alabama like you do?"

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "Because y'all took Saban from us."

Me: "Excuse me, say what?"

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "Y'all took Saban from LSU."

Me: "If I'm not mistaken, Saban left LSU to go coach the Miami Dolphins."

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "He did, but y'all paid him $4 million dollars to leave and become the head coach at Alabama."

Me: "Has the thought ever occurred to you that if Alabama hadn't made Saban such an offer that some other university would have?"

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "It don't matter; he's still y'all's coach."

Me: "Yes he is, but let me ask you this: why should Bama having Saban even bother you? LSU has Les Miles."

I wish you could have seen the look that came over this corndog's face. You could tell the guy wanted to say something but either couldn't get it out or didn't quite know how to say it. But after an awkward pause he finally replied as serious as can be.

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "That's the problem; I don't know what to think of Les Miles."

Me: "I guess you'll find out in two or three years from now."

Pseudo-Colorado-Incognito-LSU fan: "I guess so."

End of conversation.


Yes, the LSU fandom's appearance & behavior at the Independence Bowl was truly a bizarre demonstration.

Other than having to endure that "jilted LSU mentality," I'm glad we made the trip. My son and I had a great time. We even found the four drunks in front of us an entertaining bunch.

What section were you sitting in i had three buddies with me, hell that could have been us!!! :lol: We somehow ended up getting our picture made with the guy with the Bear Bryant tattoo on his back.The S TIMES guy sent him up to take a photo for the newspaper with us.We were toasted needless to say!!!If that was you behind us, we didnt know we were sitting in front of a legend!!! :lol: We were the four drunks in sec 106 leaning on the rail over one of the stadium walkways.

 

[kudzu]

Incredible story BF. It's not far from getting out of hand and almost down right scary!

What perplexes me about the whole situation is..
1. We didn't take coach Saban from them but they can't understand that. He wanted back in college FB.
If the WV job or Mich. job would have been open at that time he probably would have went. He did not come here to spite LSU. He wants a chance at a MNC and most any school that could have offered that through various opportunities could have landed his services. It's just a fact.

2. Out of one side of their mouth LSU fans hate his guts and he's a sorry ^%$% lier,not a good coach,
basically scum but....they want him back.
I don't know how to or can't understand that.
Seems as close as I can get is if Fran went to the Barn. I don't like Fran and regardless of where he goes my feelings won't change. I don't understand where they are coming from,I truly don't.

Kudzu, I found this comment on another site. It possibly explains some of that "orchestrated" LSU behavior.

Yep, they were promoting it on the local sports radio show the day the bowl was announced. They were trying to get all the local LSU fans to buy up all the tickets that CU didn't buy and all the tickets outside the alloted 12,000 to Bama.

I honestly was hesitant about posting my bowl game experience, mainly because I didn't want folks thinking that I was exaggerating. After reading on another site about other Bama fans' Independence Bowl experiences, my story does not seem much like a yarn.

I wouldn't have doubted you one bit. I'm just surprised that it's not calming down some. LSU fans won't let it go and are exhausting so much energy into something that is making them look very foolish and sort of cynical or even delusional.
I get the feeling they are masking some deep inner feelings that they are not willing to accept or even admit they are having. I'm just trying to see some point of logic or sence behind it.
I really don't like the Barners but to go to these type lengths of obsession to make myself feel better or convince people to agree with me is complete insanity.

 

[bear facts]

What section were you sitting in i had three buddies with me, hell that could have been us!!! :lol: We somehow ended up getting our picture made with the guy with the Bear Bryant tattoo on his back.The S TIMES guy sent him up to take a photo for the newspaper with us.We were toasted needless to say!!!If that was you behind us, we didnt know we were sitting in front of a legend!!! :lol: We were the four drunks in sec 106 leaning on the rail over one of the stadium walkways.

Nope Cecil, it wasn't y'all. We ain't got the clout you have; we ended up in sec 200. These four guys were lot younger than you but funny as heck. I just hope they made it back okay to The Roadway Inn after the game. I guess that's where they were staying; they sure did work it into one of their many cheers. I believe the "Julio Jones" chant was their favorite, though. :lol:

Was the tatoo guy shirtless? It got a little nippy by the end of the game, but from the sound of things you probably didn't notice.

 

[ColoradoTide]

ahh ha, now we know the rest of the story Paul Harvey....

I read on another board the other day someone's experience at the game with some CU fans who were being a real proctologist's daily view. At the time, I thought "all programs have their jerk fans" even though I've usually been impressed with the CU (and most other Big 12) fans I know here. Now that still may be the case, but I can see where they very well may have been "pseudoBuff-corndogs-in-disguise".



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[Teague13]

What section were you sitting in i had three buddies with me, hell that could have been us!!! :lol: We somehow ended up getting our picture made with the guy with the Bear Bryant tattoo on his back.The S TIMES guy sent him up to take a photo for the newspaper with us.We were toasted needless to say!!!If that was you behind us, we didnt know we were sitting in front of a legend!!! :lol: We were the four drunks in sec 106 leaning on the rail over one of the stadium walkways.

Nope Cecil, it wasn't y'all. We ain't got the clout you have; we ended up in sec 200. These four guys were lot younger than you but funny as heck. I just hope they made it back okay to The Roadway Inn after the game. I guess that's where they were staying; they sure did work it into one of their many cheers. I believe the "Julio Jones" chant was their favorite, though. :lol:

Was the tatoo guy shirtless? It got a little nippy by the end of the game, but from the sound of things you probably didn't notice.

Yeah he was shirtless,not sure how cold it was though ,we ended up staying at Diamond Jacks.Took a cab to the game and pretended we were staying at another hotel to get a free ride back.You would think a casino would have a shuttle running but they didnt.We had a blast though.Except for the bum by Church's Chicken by the stadium who tried to get a piece of chicken off of us, we almost beat the hell out of him :lol: Other than that pretty normal night!!!