Sir, I am sorry, but did not mean any disrespect for Dr Birx. The 2 studies, from Stanford and USC are not hype, in my mind. Gary Franchi was hyped, but the study speaks for itself.
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Sir, I am sorry, but did not mean any disrespect for Dr Birx. The 2 studies, from Stanford and USC are not hype, in my mind. Gary Franchi was hyped, but the study speaks for itself.
Post up links to the studies you're referring to...
Propaganda very good way to describe it.
Antibody tests have not been shown to be accurate enough yet, creating what are believed to be a lot of false positives. It appears that many may trigger on the presence of antibodies from other coronaviruses, which include things like the common cold, meaning we need more study to know how to stop the false positives.
The studies are showing what has been suspected for some time - the virus spreads from people who have the virus, but no symptoms, to others, the majority of which end up with no symptoms themselves. 50+ times as many infections as those confirmed by testing, and that is boosting the morbidity rate and greatly dropping the mortality rate.
Something that has never added up to my simple mind, how do you have a virus with no symptoms? I confess I am not a medical person so maybe that is common so maybe someone can enlighten me. Another thing that has perplexed me, how was there already a test available that detects the virus? Does someone have that story?
Not trying to create conspiracy theories just things that I don't have answers to. Someone probably does.
I do have a friend in Birmingham that works in one of the labs. They indicated that they are about to ramping up to provide antibodies testing. There is a concern with accuracy and the company pushing it got approval for an emergency release but it is not FDA approved. Going to be some false positives for sure.
Not trying to create conspiracy theories just things that I don't have answers to. Someone probably does.
I do have a friend in Birmingham that works in one of the labs. They indicated that they are about to ramping up to provide antibodies testing. There is a concern with accuracy and the company pushing it got approval for an emergency release but it is not FDA approved. Going to be some false positives for sure.
Stanford antibody study estimates COVID-19 infected 50 to 85 times more people than testing identified in Santa Clara County
In the weeks since the coronavirus outbreak has squelched daily life in America, researchers have struggled to assess the true spread of the virus. But initial results from a Northern California st…
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What to Know About Studies Using Antibody Tests (Published 2020)
Tuesday: Early study results suggest the virus may be more prevalent than previously known. Also: An assignment shift for the Navy hospital ship Mercy.
Stanford antibody study estimates COVID-19 infected 50 to 85 times more people than testing identified in Santa Clara County
In the weeks since the coronavirus outbreak has squelched daily life in America, researchers have struggled to assess the true spread of the virus. But initial results from a Northern California st…
What to Know About Studies Using Antibody Tests (Published 2020)
Tuesday: Early study results suggest the virus may be more prevalent than previously known. Also: An assignment shift for the Navy hospital ship Mercy.www.nytimes.com
Links to the actual reports. If your point is that the number of infected is higher than believed, hasn't that been known/suspected for some time now? This this will bring down the mortality rates. We've tested 4.1 million people out of 328 million.
Multiple possibilities. Symptoms are impacts the virus is having on your body, along with results of your body fighting it off. But what if your body doesn't attack the virus for some reason and it also doesn't attack your body directly? Think of a Ninja. Normally, when a Ninja shows up and is detected the guards attack him and a long drawn out battle occurs, usually causing more damage to the guards than the Ninja. But what if the Ninja entered, didn't attack anybody, and the guards just decided to ignore it for a while and see what is up? Same basic principle in some ways. You could be immune to the virus, which doesn't mean it can't enter your system but that it can't do any damage to you. That doesn't mean copies of it aren't in your nose waiting to deploy when you sneeze from some pepper. Or maybe the virus just doesn't attack you for some reason. Maybe it can only really do damage to people with certain gene sequences because it attacks those (it is estimated that something like 5-8% of human DNA is made up of ancient viruses, really). Tons of reasons for why someone would be asymptomatic, but all of them boil down to either the body segregates the virus before it can cause damage or the two decide to share the body for a time without fighting.
Appears the possible treatment with hydroxychloroquine is not all it was cracked up to be.
Reading the article all the way through shows the demographics they used were for older americans. (VA study was the clue)
Understood, but this is the largest study so far. Up to now all have been small and results have been very mixed. It may help those who are positive but not showing symptoms/showing minor symptoms but it seems to not help those who are showing anything other than minor symptoms. And there are no other treatments that have proven effective yet either. Remdesivir is showing promise, as are plasma treatments, but nothing is solid yet.
The mortality rate was twice has high for those taking this drug at VA hospitals. It can also cause cardiovascular issues and liver damage.
They did a study on the people most likely to be badly effected... shocking.
For those of you curious about the checks - cannot believe it will take up to 6 months to get checks to many.
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According to the Washington Post, the IRS's plan is to send its first batch of payments to those folks who have their direct deposit information on file. That's about 80 million Americans. After that, it'll begin issuing paper checks, of which it can print and send out in the neighborhood of 5 million per week.
However, the IRS isn't going to simply draw names or Social Security numbers out of a hat to determine when you'll be paid your stimulus check. Rather, it's going to be issuing paper checks on a weekly basis based on AGI and in $10,000 increments. If you know your AGI from 2019 (if you've already filed your federal return) or 2018 (if you've yet to file), this will tell you precisely when you can expect to receive your stimulus check.
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According to the Washington Post, the IRS's plan is to send its first batch of payments to those folks who have their direct deposit information on file. That's about 80 million Americans. After that, it'll begin issuing paper checks, of which it can print and send out in the neighborhood of 5 million per week.
However, the IRS isn't going to simply draw names or Social Security numbers out of a hat to determine when you'll be paid your stimulus check. Rather, it's going to be issuing paper checks on a weekly basis based on AGI and in $10,000 increments. If you know your AGI from 2019 (if you've already filed your federal return) or 2018 (if you've yet to file), this will tell you precisely when you can expect to receive your stimulus check.
- If the IRS has your direct deposit information on file: the week ending April 17.
- Paper checks for people with up to $10,000 in AGI: the week ending April 24.
- Between $10,000 AGI and $20,000 AGI: the week ending May 1.
- Between $20,000 AGI and $30,000 AGI: the week ending May 8.
- Between $30,000 AGI and $40,000 AGI: the week ending May 15.
- Between $40,000 AGI and $50,000 AGI: the week ending May 22.
- Between $50,000 AGI and $60,000 AGI: the week ending May 29.
- Between $60,000 AGI and $70,000 AGI: the week ending June 5.
- Between $70,000 AGI and $80,000 AGI: the week ending June 12.
- Between $80,000 AGI and $90,000 AGI: the week ending June 19.
- Between $90,000 AGI and $100,000 AGI: the week ending June 26.
- Between $100,000 AGI and $110,000 AGI: the week ending July 3.
- Between $110,000 AGI and $120,000 AGI: the week ending July 10.
- Between $120,000 AGI and $130,000 AGI: the week ending July 17.
- Between $130,000 AGI and $140,000 AGI: the week ending July 24.
- Between $140,000 AGI and $150,000 AGI: the week ending July 31.
- Between $150,000 AGI and $160,000 AGI: the week ending Aug. 7.
- Between $160,000 AGI and $170,000 AGI: the week ending Aug. 14.
- Between $170,000 AGI and $180,000 AGI: the week ending Aug. 21.
- Between $180,000 AGI and $190,000 AGI: the week ending Aug. 28.
- Between $190,000 AGI and $198,000 AGI: the week ending Sept. 4.
- All other checks (e.g., those who didn't have tax info on file): the week ending Sept. 11.
Observational vs clinical study, right? It's my understanding that 30% of the "untreated" group received azithromycin which is also used as a treatment. You can't have an "untreated" group that's treated with meds used to combat the very virus you're studying.
There were some in the latter stages of life as it was according to the Sect. of VA.
I know a couple of folks who always file direct deposit who have received nothing yet and the system isn't showing anything for them. Knowing as few people IRL as I do, I hope that is not an indicator of a wider glitch in the system.
We are on direct deposit with SSI but not on taxes. We always have to pay. Do you know if they will use that as payment?
These kinda things irritate me. Promising money and then taking forever to deliver it... Federal Government 101.
A friend is in a similar situation; permanent disability. He's received his check, but will turn around and use it to pay his '19 tax bill.
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