| LIFE CV-19: Effects on life, work, and sports
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I'm still of the opinion this has been mismanaged from the beginning, by China, the WHO, the United States, and the rest of the world. Without a doubt we (the United States) should have done better, we are the leaders of the free world.
I am so conflicted on this whole thing to be honest. I'm still not sure if we have under or over reacted on this entire thing. I could make a case for either.
I do believe a deep retrospective needs to be done afterwards to try to improve things for the next time this happens. We've had 3 outbreaks in the last 10 years.
I am so conflicted on this whole thing to be honest. I'm still not sure if we have under or over reacted on this entire thing. I could make a case for either.
I do believe a deep retrospective needs to be done afterwards to try to improve things for the next time this happens. We've had 3 outbreaks in the last 10 years.
You've had many disagreements, I've never once seen you accuse others of having been "full of anger and hatred." On one hand you have a person that states his opinions and can be passionate about it, on the other you have someone who goes around accusing that person of beating his wife (or implying it). Yet I'm the angry, hate filled emotional one. THAT is my point.
Add another 5.2 million to the unemployment claims, bringing total to ~22 million (~13% of workforce).
Downright scary.
Downright scary.
I've specifically said how I perceive, good I could be incorrect, but how things read to me. You're misconstruing what I've noted and wondered.
As I recall, 12 said she'd beat you
for something but that's been so long ago.
The unemployment is going to continue to get worse each week. Need to find a way to get things moving again quickly.
Below is from United Airlines today.
"Travel demand is essentially zero and shows no sign of improving in the near-term," they wrote. "Less than 200,000 people flew with us during the first two weeks of April this year, compared to more than 6 million during the same time in 2019, a 97 percent drop. And we expect to fly fewer people during the entire month of May than we did on a single day in May 2019."
Below is from United Airlines today.
"Travel demand is essentially zero and shows no sign of improving in the near-term," they wrote. "Less than 200,000 people flew with us during the first two weeks of April this year, compared to more than 6 million during the same time in 2019, a 97 percent drop. And we expect to fly fewer people during the entire month of May than we did on a single day in May 2019."
Being an elementary PE teacher, I must say that my life has moved at a snails pace since March 16th at 1pm when we released our students for an extended Spring Break/ End of the year. While I do have it easier than classroom teachers, my regular routine consisted of 8 class periods a day and a gym full of kids each period. Now, I roll out of bed and make sure I sign in via internet before 9 am and then work on a "honey-do" list as long as Raekwon Davis' arms!!!!
The school campus is limited to no more than 10 people and they must sign in for a set time period, 4 hours at a time. Our classroom/homeroom teachers have to get their work packets ready for the students and have them ready for pick up on Sundays before the week starts. I gave each a huge list of Kids Dance videos and exercise videos to pass along to their students. Many of them volunteer to pass out lunches each day so they can see their students or at least interact with parents.
I have a HS junior and HS senior and needless to say their lives have been greatly affected by this pandemic. No visiting with friends, sports, just being a teenager. For my senior, no prom, no graduation ceremony/walk, no senior trip, no last "Hoorah" with his buddies before it's off to college.
The school campus is limited to no more than 10 people and they must sign in for a set time period, 4 hours at a time. Our classroom/homeroom teachers have to get their work packets ready for the students and have them ready for pick up on Sundays before the week starts. I gave each a huge list of Kids Dance videos and exercise videos to pass along to their students. Many of them volunteer to pass out lunches each day so they can see their students or at least interact with parents.
I have a HS junior and HS senior and needless to say their lives have been greatly affected by this pandemic. No visiting with friends, sports, just being a teenager. For my senior, no prom, no graduation ceremony/walk, no senior trip, no last "Hoorah" with his buddies before it's off to college.
May not be any "off to college" in the fall either. No telling how long before they feel comfortable opening up campuses completely.
Not sure how you expect things to get started quickly when it would mean more loss of life. It's just not going to happen.
My son has already been taking some classes online and is planning on the JUCO route for at least 1 year, so anything online this fall wouldn't be that big of a change for him.
I can relate. Senior is missing out on hanging with friends prior to moving up to Montana to attend college.
A strong statement right there, because the virus has not been anything greater than an economic killer in this country. The country is more than a small number of people. Where is everyone that is going hysterical right now when children are starving to death at higher rates, drug overdoses are killing people at higher rates, suicide rates go up during a recession. Aren't those numbers more important than the MUCH smaller number being claimed by the virus? There comes a time when you have to man up and get back on that bike, and waiting for this virus to be 100% gone would doom over 325 million people.
No doubt. But unemployment will cause even more devastation...
Not sure there is an good answer. I don't know how we get back to work at this point. It's a real cluster fuck.
Imagine the social media shaming (bullying) of friends, coworkers, family when and if people go back to work...
My honeydo list is just about complete. Where I live in South Alabama or LA (Lower Alabama) it is mostly business as usual except for restaurants and hair salons. The list of business deemed essential by Gov Ivey is exhaustive. I don't get it.
Government operations,
including public safety and first responders, law enforcement,fire prevention and response, courts and court personnel, military, emergency management personnel, corrections, probation and parole, child protection, child welfare,EMTs, 911 call-center employees, all workers and vendors that support law enforcement and emergency management operations and services, and other federal, state, tribal, orlocal officials or employees; b.
Health-care providers and caregivers
, including physicians, dentists, mental health workers, nurses, chiropractors, physical therapists, veterinarians, hospitals/clinics,medical practices, research and laboratory operations, hospice, health care facilities,clinical staff, nursing homes, residential health care facilities, adult day care centers, blood banks, congregate-care facilities, assisted living facilities, elder care, medical wholesale and distribution, home health workers and aides, medical supply and equipment manufacturers and providers, medical waste disposal, hazardous waste disposal, other ancillary healthcare services;c.
Infrastructure Operations,
including electric, natural gas, and water utilities, nuclear facilities and other generating facilities, utility poles and components, fuel pipelines and transmission systems, petroleum producers, telecommunications, electronic security and life safety services, wireless communication companies, communications sales and customer support, telecommunication and data centers, cybersecurity operations; businesses and other operations concerned with flood control, aviation, and the maintenance, operation, or construction of dams, airports, ports, roads and highways, and mass transit; automotive sales and repair, vehicle rental and taxi services, network providers (such as Uber and Lyft), freight and passenger rail, motor carriers, pipelines,and other transportation infrastructure and businesses, water and waste water systems, transportation companies such as airlines and bus lines, hazardous waste disposal, hotels and commercial lodging services, and RV parks;d.
Manufacturing facilities,
including food processing and production; companies that produce pharmaceuticals, food additives, medical equipment, medical devices and supplies, technology, biotechnology, chemical products, telecommunications products;automotive production and suppliers, airplane, ship, and space vehicle or rocket manufacturers; companies involved in healthcare, energy, steel and steel products, fuel and petroleum exploration and production, lubricants, greases and engine oils, mining, national defense, sanitary and cleaning products, household products, personal care products, products used by any other Essential Business or Operation;e.
Agricultural operations and farms including food cultivation, livestock, cattle, poultry and seafood operations, transportation of agricultural products, livestock auctions,feedlots, dealers and brokers of livestock, farmer’s markets, feed stores, repairers and suppliers of agricultural equipment, gas, diesel and petroleum suppliers, companies involved with aquaculture, horticulture, and chemicals, including pesticide, herbicide, and fertilizer producers and distributors, forest products businesses, including those involved in forestry operations, logging, manufacture of lumber and paper products; meat processing facilities, rendering facilities and transporters, feed processing facilities, veterinary services;f.
Essential retailers
, defined as all supermarkets, food and beverage stores, including liquor stores and warehouse clubs, food providers, convenience stores, office-supply stores, bookstores, computer stores, pharmacies, health care supply stores, hardware stores, home improvement stores, building materials stores, stores that sell electrical, plumbing, and heating materials, gun stores, gas stations; auto, farm equipment, bicycle,motorcycle, and boat supply and repair stores, and businesses that ship or deliver groceries, food, and goods directly to residences;g.
Essential personal services
, defined as trash collection, mail and shipping services,home repair, automotive sales and repair; warehouse, distribution and fulfillment centers,kennels, animal shelters, laundromats/laundry service, dry cleaners, childcare facilities, public transportation, and providers of business services including security and payroll;funeral, cemetery, and related services;i.
Media operations
, including newspapers, digital news sites, television, radio and other media services; j.
Education operations
, including educators supporting public and private K-12 schools,colleges and universities or other educational institutions, for purposes of facilitating distance learning and education continuity plans approved by the State Superintendent ofEducation, performing critical research or other essential functions, including public schools preparing and transporting distance-learning materials and meals to eligiblestudents and colleges providing lodging for students (all in compliance with paragraph 12 below);k.
Financial services
, including banks and related financial institutions, credit unions, payday lenders, businesses that process credit card and other financial transactions, andother services related to financial markets;l.
Professional Services
, including legal services, accounting services, insurance services,real estate services (including appraisal and title services);m.
Providers of basic necessities to economically disadvantaged populations
including businesses, religious and secular non-profit organizations, food banks, homeless shelters and congregate-care facilities;n.
Construction and construction-related services
, including building and construction,lumber, building materials and hardware businesses, electricians, plumbers, otherconstruction tradesmen and tradeswomen, exterminators; cleaning and janitorial, HVACR and water heating businesses; painting, moving and relocating services, other
skilled trades, and other related construction firms and professionals for maintaining essential infrastructure;o.
Essential public services
, defined as services necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation and essential operations of residences and essential businesses and essential business operations, including law enforcement, fire prevention and response, firearm and ammunition manufacturers and retailers, building code enforcement, security, emergency management and response, building cleaning including disinfection, automotive sales and repair, mortuaries and cemeteries; p.
Military or defense operations
, including employers and personnel who support the essential products and services required to meet national security commitments, including personnel working for companies and their subcontractors, who perform under contract to the Department of Defense providing materials and services to the Department of Defense and government-owned/contractor-operated and government-owned/government-operated facilities.q.
Essential services or product providers
, defined as vendors that provide services or products, including logistics, transportation, and technology support, child care programs and services, medical waste disposal, hazardous waste disposal, services needed to ensure the continuing operation of an essential business or operation, operation of government agencies, and to provide for the health, safety and welfare of the public;r.
Religious entities
, including religious and faith-based facilities, entities and groups;s.
Federally-designated critical infrastructure
, defined as workers and related industries identified by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Cyber security & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) in its “Memorandum on Identification of Essential Critical Infrastructure Workers During COVID-19 Response,”Identifying Critical Infrastructure During COVID-19 | CISA, as may be amended;t.
Other state-designated essential businesses and operations
, defined as businesses and operations deemed essential by the Alabama Department of Public Health or the Alabama Emergency Management Agency; andu.
Support operations for essential businesses and operations
, defined as employees,contractors, agents, suppliers, or vendors of an essential business or operation as defined in this paragraph.3. Operators of “essential businesses and operations” as defined in paragraph 2 may, but need not, issue credentials to their employees verifying their status as an employee of an essential business or operation. The decision to provide any such credentials is left to the discretion of the essential business or operation
Hair dressers and restaurants are Fu*ked.
At WalMart today. I go out once a payday to get a few things I need and see for myself how the world is doing. Mask on, sanitizer in pocket and used liberally as I have the stuff to make more when I want it. What I see is whole families (mom, dad, 3 kids) shopping with no mask or anything. Folks getting right next to you without a care in the world. Workers were a mix of those in masks and gloves and those wearing none. All ages, sexes, and races were guilty of all of it. In and out in 5 minutes and I hope like hell I don't need to go there again. I feel badly that my wife has to go out and do the shopping twice a month. Bad part is those folks with no protection and not caring won't die from it. They will carry it to others who will.
Define small number. Put a value on a single life. If more testing was in place things could move faster. I'm not blind I see what is happening to the economy it has a direct impact on me but we are talking about life and death. It's up to each state to determine when things get opened back up thank God.
It is not life or death. It is a risk for death. Big difference. All of us take a risk for death every day. Getting hit by car, bus, etc. or getting cancer. At some point we have to decide if staying at home is more risk than going to work. A lot of marriages are at risk once all the honeydo things are done. Together ain't always safe. Frankly we are doing what we can do with face mask, gloves, limiting our contact, but at some point going back to work is the only thing we can do. I know POTUS will catch hell for getting us going too soon but the alternative is losing our American freedom and liberty. I say I will die trying vs. die lying.
Matt, I think you already know the answer to that they are just two of 50.
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