🏈 Buy or Sell? UGA wasn't focused on the game. They were looking ahead knowing they were going to be in the playoffs?

[SoCalPatrick]

Georgia just needs to "reset" and then they'll be ready. They needed this loss so they could refocus.

Opinions?

 

[ElephantStomp]

IF there’s a rematch the only thing that changes is maybe the score, but that’s a big maybe. Their defense came at us the same as they have everybody else all year and we outplayed them. If their front 7 can’t get home then their overmatched secondary gets exposed. There’s absolutely nothing different they can do offense outside of starting Daniels and if they do that they better hope our pass rush doesn’t get home or they’re toast because Daniels isn’t near the runner that Stetson is.

This bs that they weren’t ready or were looking past us or didn’t take it serious is all bs. They were prepared, they were ready, and they took it serious, difference is we took every punch then hit back and we made their asses quit.

 

[rick4bama]

UGA can rest all they want to, Saban is and has always be in Kirby head! I watch that big boy on UGA D-Line and he was giving up right as the play begin.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

So you gonna bet the farm on Bama -17? Doubt it.

Not -17. Even or -7.....

Nobody would take that bet whenthey saw how much work there is to do on this farm...!

 

[mando]

IF there’s a rematch the only thing that changes is maybe the score, but that’s a big maybe. Their defense came at us the same as they have everybody else all year and we outplayed them. If their front 7 can’t get home then their overmatched secondary gets exposed. There’s absolutely nothing different they can do offense outside of starting Daniels and if they do that they better hope our pass rush doesn’t get home or they’re toast because Daniels isn’t near the runner that Stetson is.

This bs that they weren’t ready or were looking past us or didn’t take it serious is all bs. They were prepared, they were ready, and they took it serious, difference is we took every punch then hit back and we made their asses quit.

I try and look at these games with a broader lense than the score. If you remove the turnovers this game is much tighter. 2nd qtr Bama had their way with UGA's defense. 2nd half except for the first and last drive, UGA played our offense much better. Was that because of Metchie getting hurt or something else? Do not know but our productivity was not as good in the 2nd half. Offense only scored 10 2nd half points.

Now looking at their offense, they moved the ball and had 450+ yards of offense and 30 first downs. That is not shutting them down. The turnovers were the difference. I do think we played well on Defense against the run pretty much the whole game. Doing that help us dictate the game and forced Stetson to play a game that is not his strength. He still had a very productive game outside of the turnovers.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

There have been no conference championship[ rematches in the bowls. There have been a lot of regular season ones and the losers are 15-7 in those. There were also a lot of rematches in the conference championships from the regular season and the winners are 32-20 in those. I did a lot of number crunching and there is no pattern to any of it. Winners by more than 14 are something like 3-2 in rematches I think. Still, none in the bowls/playoffs from the CCG, just from regular season.

 

[TerryP]

There have been no conference championship[ rematches in the bowls. There have been a lot of regular season ones and the losers are 15-7 in those. There were also a lot of rematches in the conference championships from the regular season and the winners are 32-20 in those. I did a lot of number crunching and there is no pattern to any of it. Winners by more than 14 are something like 3-2 in rematches I think. Still, none in the bowls/playoffs from the CCG, just from regular season.

Coaches and media like to say it’s difficult to beat a team twice in the same season. The numbers don’t quite support that claim. According to statistics gathered from College Football Data, from 1950 to the end of the 2019 season, there were 78 rematches during the same season. The winner of the regular-season game won the rematch 44 times or 56.4% of the time.​

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According to research produced by the NCAA a few years ago, 20 of 33 conference championship game rematches resulted in a win for the team that also won the regular-season game — 60.6%.​

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[TerryP]

I try and look at these games with a broader lense than the score. If you remove the turnovers this game is much tighter. 2nd qtr Bama had their way with UGA's defense. 2nd half except for the first and last drive, UGA played our offense much better. Was that because of Metchie getting hurt or something else? Do not know but our productivity was not as good in the 2nd half. Offense only scored 10 2nd half points.

Now looking at their offense, they moved the ball and had 450+ yards of offense and 30 first downs. That is not shutting them down. The turnovers were the difference. I do think we played well on Defense against the run pretty much the whole game. Doing that help us dictate the game and forced Stetson to play a game that is not his strength. He still had a very productive game outside of the turnovers.

How can you say "if you remove the turnovers" when discussing Stetson Bennett who turns the ball over against Bama, consistently? He's 3:3, TD:INT over the past two seasons.

There seems to be an effort to redefine the game but we're still back to where we started post-Clemson.

After UGA won that game I reminded folks there's an issue with Georgia's offense and the win against the Tigers dug their hole deeper. Not only was it (still is) an offense that worked a decade ago it's being ran by guys who—on their best day—hope to be AJ McCarron.

Think about this for a minute.

We talked about Stetson's inability to handle pressure, his problems with secondary schemes that are disguised, all the while pointing to the likelihood of a turnover. We saw that.

We've talked about the key to stopping UGA's offense is stopping their running game. We saw that.

We asked "what happens with UGA faces a dynamic offense/quarterback?" We know what happens when UGA faces a dynamic offense/quarterback.

We asked if their offense could "keep up." No. They can't keep up.

I'm left with this question. Is the Alabama win an anomaly or the answer to questions posed all season?

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

I'm left with this question. Is the Alabama win an anomaly or the answer to questions posed all season?

There is a reason all the discussion was about the defense and how Alabama couldn't score more than 10 points on them. I heard few at all saying UGA's offense would score at will, it was all about how hard it would be to score on UGA.

 

[OldPlayer]

There have been no conference championship[ rematches in the bowls. There have been a lot of regular season ones and the losers are 15-7 in those. There were also a lot of rematches in the conference championships from the regular season and the winners are 32-20 in those. I did a lot of number crunching and there is no pattern to any of it. Winners by more than 14 are something like 3-2 in rematches I think. Still, none in the bowls/playoffs from the CCG, just from regular season.

A lot of that is due to the bowl tie-ins. It’s usually Conference A #? vs Conference B #?. That only changes when the conference slot team gets promoted to the CFP. Example: The SEC Champion is slotted for the Sugar Bowl. But, the #1 and #2 SEC teams are in the CFP. Therefore the #3 team, Ole Miss, gets the SEC nod for New Orleans.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

A lot of that is due to the bowl tie-ins. It’s usually Conference A #? vs Conference B #?. That only changes when the conference slot team gets promoted to the CFP. Example: The SEC Champion is slotted for the Sugar Bowl. But, the #1 and #2 SEC teams are in the CFP. Therefore the #3 team, Ole Miss, gets the SEC nod for New Orleans.

I understand that, but I know someone was going to see the numbers and ask about the CCG rematches in bowls. So far the loser of a CCG hasn't made the playoffs anyway so this is all new. That being said, I am not sure UGA can really do anything about what happened in the SECCG when we play again. Their defense may have better answers but I doubt their offense does.

 

[TerryP]

There is a reason all the discussion was about the defense and how Alabama couldn't score more than 10 points on them.

That's what's so crazy about this game: it always came back to what type of offense they'd faced this season.

I heard few at all saying UGA's offense would score at will, it was all about how hard it would be to score on UGA.

In those threads I referenced a feeling I could escape; Bama's defensive front versus Georgia and Stetson. UGA was averaging just under 41 points a game going into last weekend and we saw the Tide hold them to a little over half of that.

 

[mando]

How can you say "if you remove the turnovers" when discussing Stetson Bennett who turns the ball over against Bama, consistently? He's 3:3, TD:INT over the past two seasons.

There seems to be an effort to redefine the game but we're still back to where we started post-Clemson.

After UGA won that game I reminded folks there's an issue with Georgia's offense and the win against the Tigers dug their hole deeper. Not only was it (still is) an offense that worked a decade ago it's being ran by guys who—on their best day—hope to be AJ McCarron.

Think about this for a minute.

We talked about Stetson's inability to handle pressure, his problems with secondary schemes that are disguised, all the while pointing to the likelihood of a turnover. We saw that.

We've talked about the key to stopping UGA's offense is stopping their running game. We saw that.

We asked "what happens with UGA faces a dynamic offense/quarterback?" We know what happens when UGA faces a dynamic offense/quarterback.

We asked if their offense could "keep up." No. They can't keep up.

I'm left with this question. Is the Alabama win an anomaly or the answer to questions posed all season?

My point is do not count on turnovers, teams can clean that up. I know you are going to say but he has done that both games he played bama so this is likely the norm. Fair point but this game is not that far away from being a much tighter game when the UGA offense gained 450+ yards. Not trying to dismiss Georgia's issues. I think the Bama strategy is absolutely to put the game in Stenson's hands and take our chances. That is great strategy but what if he does not turn the ball over? Yep this is the "what if" game but not out of the realm of possibility in my opinion. Now it could also have the other effect that it gets in Stenson's head and he presses even more resulting in even more turnovers.

 

[PurlJam]

 

[50+yeartidefan]

My point is do not count on turnovers, teams can clean that up. I know you are going to say but he has done that both games he played bama so this is likely the norm. Fair point but this game is not that far away from being a much tighter game when the UGA offense gaine 450+ yards. Not trying to dismiss Georgia's issues. I think the Bama strategy is absolutely to put the game in Stenson's hands and take our chances. That is great strategy but what if he does not turn the ball over? Yep this is the "what if" game but not out of the realm of possibility in my opinion. Now it could also have the other effect that it gets in Stenson's head and he presses even more resulting in even more turnovers.

No doubt a rematch would bein his head and knowing an error may necessitate a change at QB.....

I dont fear a rematch like many do.....bama isa better team...with better players..
And a better QB....and receivers...and a stud at RB that will be healthy...
Skilled players...
they can bliz...they can double cover....zone..man to man....

Wont matter..period

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

I am not sure a QB change is going to do them what some think. Bennett is basically 3:1 TD:INT with 10+ yards per attempt. Daniels is 2:1 TD:INT with <8 yards per attempt. Daniels has 41% of the attempts Bennett does with 30% of the TD and 43% the INT. Bennett also has positive rushing yardage for the year (#4 on their team) while Daniels is negative. Yes I get that Daniels has played less, but he is playing worse than last year. Against Bama Daniels will be a liability as he is not a threat to take off much at all.

 

[TerryP]

I think the Bama strategy is absolutely to put the game in Stenson's hands and take our chances. That is great strategy but what if he does not turn the ball over?

My point is do not count on turnovers, teams can clean that up.

And that's my point as well. Stetson has a history of making bad decisions in the pocket; he's INT prone going 3:1 this season. What pressure has that offense been under this season until Saturday? He's better than last season (8:6) but there's still the reason he doesn't throw often: he's not that good in the passing game.

Semantics, but still. The Alabama strategy was stop the running game: it fell into Stetson's hands.

I'm not trying to be contentions here though it's hard not to be confused reading what sounds like a litany of things under "why Georgia didn't win" versus how they were beaten and not all of it is to Alabama's credit.

 

[BamaFan334]

I try and look at these games with a broader lense than the score. If you remove the turnovers this game is much tighter. 2nd qtr Bama had their way with UGA's defense. 2nd half except for the first and last drive, UGA played our offense much better. Was that because of Metchie getting hurt or something else? Do not know but our productivity was not as good in the 2nd half. Offense only scored 10 2nd half points.

Now looking at their offense, they moved the ball and had 450+ yards of offense and 30 first downs. That is not shutting them down. The turnovers were the difference. I do think we played well on Defense against the run pretty much the whole game. Doing that help us dictate the game and forced Stetson to play a game that is not his strength. He still had a very productive game outside of the turnovers.

If we do away with the turnovers this is still the same game. We were up by 14 points before both interceptions. Yes, they were close to scoring on one, but they never proved they could just run the ball up and down the field and put up points. I absolutely hate when people throw this out there like those interceptions kept them from winning the game. We had already imposed our will and this chapter was pretty much written. JT Daniels throws interceptions as well, so even if he had played he has just as much of a chance at getting picked as Stetson did. Bennett did more with his feet than Daniels could have, so if you take one over the other you're still giving something up. Alabama won this game hands down, and beat the Dawgs up. We played a little looser in the 4th quarter on defense in my mind, but we already knew we had it won as well. We could have put up another touchdown or two on offense as well.

 

[TerryP]

Even this Georgia gal gets it: Elle Duncan from ESPN's Sportscenter

 

[50+yeartidefan]

If we do away with the turnovers this is still the same game. We were up by 14 points before both interceptions. Yes, they were close to scoring on one, but they never proved they could just run the ball up and down the field and put up points. I absolutely hate when people throw this out there like those interceptions kept them from winning the game. We had already imposed our will and this chapter was pretty much written. JT Daniels throws interceptions as well, so even if he had played he has just as much of a chance at getting picked as Stetson did. Bennett did more with his feet than Daniels could have, so if you take one over the other you're still giving something up. Alabama won this game hands down, and beat the Dawgs up. We played a little looser in the 4th quarter on defense in my mind, but we already knew we had it won as well. We could have put up another touchdown or two on offense as well.

Agree... and we had shut O down some....
4th quarter...they were tired...wore down .....and bama O n Young were cranked
....just like last drive for FG.....they couldn't stop it....sucking wind....

I guess they really weren't the 85 Bears

 

[mando]

To me all this falls under do not get to high or to low especially in a rematch.

Our D shutting someone down someone is what we did against the Barn not what we did against UGA.

The flip side is also the impact of losing Metchie on our offense. We exposed their D when we could run some but more so because we pass blocked well. We have had our struggles there so they are not likely to be ALL fixed and could show back up.

Do we match up well against UGA? It appears so. Does that guarantee the same results? To be determined. Prepare well and be able to make in game adjustments to whatever strategy they bring to the rematch.