🏀 🏀 🏆 SEC Tournament -- Alabama Falls to No. 4 Kentucky

[TerryP]

Wait a second, SLO. I said this...

The lack of depth of guard play. A great, and most certainly, a leading question that we've seen no apparent answer.

And you interpreted it as this?

You don't think a coach worth his salt (or 3 million, in this case) could, or SHOULD correct poor ball-handlers (Grant recruits) by emphasizing the fundamentals of dribbling, passing, and rebounding in practice... In FOUR years?

Pfft.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Wait a second, SLO. I said this...



And you interpreted it as this?

Okay, so we've got plenty of guard depth that he's signed (and should have developed) in the last 4 years.

Quality, tho?

 

[#80]

What about a replacement for Hall it's not there. Who will protect the rim?

 

[TerryP]

The lack of depth of guard play. A great, and most certainly, a leading question that we've seen no apparent answer.

Okay, so we've got plenty of guard depth that he's signed (and should have developed) in the last 4 years.

I didn't say that either. It's literally the opposite.

 

[TerryP]

What about a replacement for Hall it's not there. Who will protect the rim?

I would assume that the reason we saw a guy like Galin Smith signed.

Hall has been a subject of conversation a few times this season. Earlier today I caught a bit from him talking about the team lacking commitment. My first thought was "that's a key of senior leadership."

 

[#80]

I would assume that the reason we saw a guy like Galin Smith signed.

Hall has been a subject of conversation a few times this season. Earlier today I caught a bit from him talking about the team lacking commitment. My first thought was "that's a key of senior leadership."

That will not work Smith is not a rim protector he is slow and not a leaper.

 

[TerryP]

That will not work Smith is not a rim protector he is slow and not a leaper.

I've not seen a defense I've liked much at all this past season. But, I've failed to mention that as an issue.

Galin averaged 10 boards in senior year and around 12 his junior year as I recall. I suspect he was thought of as a guy who could do well underneath.
This does bring up another point of consideration. We know Avery likes longer players. I don't mind that. What I'd like to see more is longer players who have a physical presence. Perhaps Galin doesn't have the metabolism to put on what's needed to become that physical guy. I don't know.

I do know it's easy to look at DeNeen and wonder if this is a repeat of what we saw under Shula and Rocky. Perhaps DeNeen wants more of a phsyical, body building type of program versus what Avery feels is needed. I don't know. I do know Rocky had other plans for the team in that era and his goals were...well, futile?

My gut and perception tell me that we've seen more of an emphasis on the offensive side of the team this past season and as a result we've seen the defensive side slide by the way.

 

[#80]

I've not seen a defense I've liked much at all this past season. But, I've failed to mention that as an issue.

Galin averaged 10 boards in senior year and around 12 his junior year as I recall. I suspect he was thought of as a guy who could do well underneath.
This does bring up another point of consideration. We know Avery likes longer players. I don't mind that. What I'd like to see more is longer players who have a physical presence. Perhaps Galin doesn't have the metabolism to put on what's needed to become that physical guy. I don't know.

I do know it's easy to look at DeNeen and wonder if this is a repeat of what we saw under Shula and Rocky. Perhaps DeNeen wants more of a phsyical, body building type of program versus what Avery feels is needed. I don't know. I do know Rocky had other plans for the team in that era and his goals were...well, futile?

My gut and perception tell me that we've seen more of an emphasis on the offensive side of the team this past season and as a result we've seen the defensive side slide by the way.

G. Smith's physical build is fine it's his foot speed, coordination, timing and leaping ability it's just not there.

 

[TerryP]

t's his foot speed, coordination, timing and leaping ability it's just not there.

Wouldn't all of those fall under physique? After all, part of the definition of physique is the development of the body which would cover coordination (foot drills would seem to be a good place to start,) and leaping ability certainly falls into that category.

I've yet to see Galin be a physical presence and I'm still leaning towards physical maturity. However, with guys how play basketball, it's a hard thing to judge from a visual perspective. If you think about it a bit, he's not built a lot differently than Roy Rogers. And, ol' Roy still carries a light frame (outside of his 40's gut that comes with age.) Roy didn't seem to gain a pound—fat or muscle—when he was in Tuscaloosa.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Wouldn't all of those fall under physique? After all, part of the definition of physique is the development of the body which would cover coordination (foot drills would seem to be a good place to start,) and leaping ability certainly falls into that category.

I've yet to see Galin be a physical presence and I'm still leaning towards physical maturity. However, with guys how play basketball, it's a hard thing to judge from a visual perspective. If you think about it a bit, he's not built a lot differently than Roy Rogers. And, ol' Roy still carries a light frame (outside of his 40's gut that comes with age.) Roy didn't seem to gain a pound—fat or muscle—when he was in Tuscaloosa.

Scrimmaged against Roy a few times...

 

[TerryP]

Scrimmaged against Roy a few times...

Foster?

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Foster?

There, the Cave when it was still a basketball practice gym, and Central (since that was technically our "home" court and we didn't have a gym at the time).

Literally scrimmaged. I was at Shelton on scholly because I didn't want to walk on at Bama. Idea was to transfer to Bama either A) after probation and they had a scholly available, or after some attrition to graduation (Like Roy, for instance) and a spot opened up that way.

We used to scrimmage in the preseason quite a bit.

As a 6'8" forward that played center in high school, I was a bit undersized against Roy. He was taller, but I was also thicker so I had a bit of a "physical" advantage where he had the experience (my frosh vs his sr) and length advantage. Dude's hands on the ends of his long-ass arms hung nearly to his knees. We battled, and I lost a few more than I won (experience lol). I used to frustrate the hell out of him defensively at times because I had a slightly lower center, I could root him out of the post with relative ease. I rarely let him "sit down" on me. Haha. Often times he'd settle for jump-hooks because he usually couldn't back me down like he wanted to. Now, he did dunk on me a couple times when we were in zone and I'd rotate over late after a couple of quick swing passes and a post entry pass from the baseline before I could get over quickly enough. Of course, he was a shot-blocker extraordinaire and I ate a few of my own shot attempts. Got him on a few pump fakes here and there.

ETA:Ya know, this convo got got me curious to what he was up to now, so I just looked him up. He's an assistant coach with the Rockets now. Cool.


Fun fact: I pinned an Eric Washington drive and dunk attempt against the backboard on backside help D after a swing pass to his side. Lol.

 

[TerryP]

There, the Cave when it was still a basketball practice gym, and Central (since that was technically our "home" court and we didn't have a gym at the time).

Small world. The chances I've seen you at one of those places is pretty high. With the reading load we had in New College I habitually did a lot of my reading around the teams at UA. I'd be around the basketball program until the weather was nice enough to watch the baseball team...until softball came along.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Small world. The chances I've seen you at one of those places is pretty high. With the reading load we had in New College I habitually did a lot of my reading around the teams at UA. I'd be around the basketball program until the weather was nice enough to watch the baseball team...until softball came along.

The university was a lot smaller then. Like, less than half the student population that it is now.

Very likely that we crossed paths.

Of course, in the off season, we'd play pickup at the Rec, which of course, was also "unorganized" scrimmages then. Coaches couldn't "coach", but they were there "watching" lol

As a juco team, we were respectable "practice dummies" for them, but it also made us better by practicing against a major college/SEC squad.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

My last trip to Foster was to see Bama vs Clyde Lee and Vandy. Mike Nordholz lead the Tide to an upset of a pretty good Vandy team. I believe that was around 64/65.

 

[TerryP]

The university was a lot smaller then. Like, less than half the student population that it is now.

Wasn't it? The last year of undergrad the enrollment was at 18K. We're at what? Getting really close to 38.5 now, aren't we?

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Wasn't it? The last year of undergrad the enrollment was at 18K. We're at what? Getting really close to 38.5 now, aren't we?

Thanks to Dr. Witt. The man was a great administrator.

Although retired, he still hangs around campus. Saw him outside the athletic building just last week.