Alabama football will continue to avoid scheduling in-state schools

[BamaFan334]

I am in the minority here but personally, I would like to see Bama schedule Troy, Jacksonville St., South Alabama and UAB for one home game a year.. This is one thing that Ohio St. does every year that I actually like, they always play one in state school at home. The visiting fans will still come to Tuscaloosa and spend money and the hotel rooms will still be used.

I'm with you on this. To me it really doesn't matter either way. I see no issues with playing an in-state school. Revenue may go down for the hotel rooms a hair, but I am willing to bet food, gas, and entertainment will not move an inch. Even if there is a $1M-$2M difference, one game will not cripple the Tuscaloosa economy. Tuscaloosa is on fire right now and is showing no signs of slowing down, trust me.

Hell, a slumping LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, or Arkansas may cause the needle to move more than one in-state FCS team.

 

[alagator]

The visiting fans will still come to Tuscaloosa and spend money and the hotel rooms will still be used.

I get your point, but have to go back to what Terry said.

That's money that would already be spent in the state. New money is always better in the long run.

 

[BamaFan334]

I get your point, but have to go back to what Terry said.

That's money that would already be spent in the state. New money is always better in the long run.

Not if it went out of state to another big school that schedules their team. The numbers are not life altering.

 

[18Champs]

Not if it went out of state to another big school that schedules their team.

Right. :eyeroll: UAB can't sell tickets to their own home games. You think they'll travel?

 

[alagator]

Not if it went out of state to another big school that schedules their team. The numbers are not life altering.

1.25 to 1.5 million to the city of Tuscaloosa's businesses, in lodging alone, isn't a big deal? Are you kidding us? That's not even opening the subjects of eating, proceeds to Bama, and a host of other avenues.

 

[BamaFan334]

1.25 to 1.5 million to the city of Tuscaloosa's businesses, in lodging alone, isn't a big deal? Are you kidding us? That's not even opening the subjects of eating, proceeds to Bama, and a host of other avenues.

Go back and read what I said. It's not life threatening and one game a year isn't killing the Tuscaloosa economy. And food and entertainment likely will not lose out because the stadium and town will fill up no matter who is playing. So no, I'm not kidding y'all. I also stated I didn't care either way, but this sink or swim delimma is just not that dire.

 

[BamaFan334]

Right. :eyeroll: UAB can't sell tickets to their own home games. You think they'll travel?

Enough to fill most of the spots another small school brings. If not, more tickets for Alabama fans. My entire point is that it's not making or breaking the city.

 

[TerryP]

There is one thing overlooked in the scheduling discussion here. There's a method to the madness.

Since Charleston Southern was brought up earlier, and I'm very familiar with that program, I'll use it as an example.

Jamey Chadwell, who was their coach up until recently, ran an offense that is as close to what Auburn runs as one can get. It's no coincidence they were scheduled before Auburn.

Jeff Durden, who coaches the Mocs, runs a spread with a lot of hurry up aspects. Again, very similar to what Gus runs down at Auburn.

UAB, has an offense that's just offensive. :sarcasm: (I honestly have no clue what they run. And, really couldn't care much less than I do today.)

 

[TUSKtimes]

There is one thing overlooked in the scheduling discussion here. There's a method to the madness.

Since Charleston Southern was brought up earlier, and I'm very familiar with that program, I'll use it as an example.

Jamey Chadwell, who was their coach up until recently, ran an offense that is as close to what Auburn runs as one can get. It's no coincidence they were scheduled before Auburn.

Jeff Durden, who coaches the Mocs, runs a spread with a lot of hurry up aspects. Again, very similar to what Gus runs down at Auburn.

UAB, has an offense that's just offensive. :sarcasm: (I honestly have no clue what they run. And, really couldn't care much less than I do today.)

Why are you talking about offenses if, in the end, you couldn't care less? For all of Alabama's accomplishments, they have allowed BOT politics to run away with this stuff. UAB is not the only in-state school that has been affected and we play 4 OOC games per season laced throughout the schedule.

 

[TerryP]

Why are you talking about offenses if, in the end, you couldn't care less?

Game prep, beau. You'll notice on the OOC competition they see a lot of teams with similar offenses than the ones they will face later on that season.

you couldn't care less?

About UAB.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Game prep, beau. You'll notice on the OOC competition they see a lot of teams with similar offenses than the ones they will face later on that season.


About UAB.

Jax State will spread you from sideline to sideline. Troy will run an uptempo spread. Something tells me you couldn't care less about either of these as well.

 

[BamaFan334]

Game prep, beau. You'll notice on the OOC competition they see a lot of teams with similar offenses than the ones they will face later on that season.


About UAB.

To be fair you said you didn't watch Charleston Southern or Chattanooga either, live.

 

[TerryP]

To be fair you said you didn't watch Charleston Southern or Chattanooga either, live.

Since Charleston Southern was brought up earlier, and I'm very familiar with that program,

There's one.

And, watching them live or watching them on the DVR. What's the difference? Live is supposed to give me a better perspective on the offense? When I choose not to watch those game live it's normally because there's better football on TV.

 

[TerryP]

It would do nothing for the city of Tuscaloosa. The others would bring in a lot of money

Jax State will spread you from sideline to sideline. Troy will run an uptempo spread. Something tells me you couldn't care less about either of these as well.

Is this so difficult to understand?

I would rather out of state schools be scheduled because it brings in out of state money. Scheduling schools from in state would not be the same in the coffers.

It's a two and a half hour drive from Troy. It's less than a hour from Birmingham. Those fans will choose to go home. Your out of state school fans stay in town.

People can choose to brag about the financial stability we see from the football program and also choose to argue against the model which has brought that financial stability to Alabama?

People can brag about how improved Tuscaloosa has become over the last several years but also choose to disagree with some of the facets that got the city where it is today?

Show me where the gain is. Show me where it's more beneficial for Alabama to have a school like UAB on the schedule.

 

[BamaFan334]

There's one.

And, watching them live or watching them on the DVR. What's the difference? Live is supposed to give me a better perspective on the offense? When I choose not to watch those game live it's normally because there's better football on TV.

I was simply saying it because you worded it as you didn't care for UAB, then you mentioned the other two schools as if you didn't even care about them like UAB. That's why I brought that up.

 

[BamaFan334]

Is this so difficult to understand?

I would rather out of state schools be scheduled because it brings in out of state money. Scheduling schools from in state would not be the same in the coffers.

It's a two and a half hour drive from Troy. It's less than a hour from Birmingham. Those fans will choose to go home. Your out of state school fans stay in town.

People can choose to brag about the financial stability we see from the football program and also choose to argue against the model which has brought that financial stability to Alabama?

People can brag about how improved Tuscaloosa has become over the last several years but also choose to disagree with some of the facets that got the city where it is today?

Show me where the gain is. Show me where it's more beneficial for Alabama to have a school like UAB on the schedule.

Bringing in Charleston Southern and Chattanooga did not get Tuscaloosa to where it is today, and there is not one fact out there that can show those OOC games built Tuscaloosa. Coach Saban and his machine have built Tuscaloosa the last ten years, not the OOC hotel and food revenues. For anyone to say playing Troy or UAB ONE game of the season brings down what was built or changes the outcome of what we currently see is about as ludicrous as it gets. I'll say it again, I personally don't care either way and hate us playing any FCS schools, but I can't sit there and listen to people saying these Alabama schools will kill the local economy when that is simply not true.

You say people from Birmingham and Troy will not stay the night, but what about those extra Alabama fans that may get tickets and travel from out of state to see the game since they can actually get seats? I'm betting it would make up for the lack of revenue an in-state school would make. I rented my house during these crappy games to Alabama fans from out of state and others coming to see their kids because they could actually get tickets, so I know first hand people are still coming for various reasons and renting hotels, houses, and eating out during these down games. And what's the difference in recycling in-state money if that money goes to say Gainesville, Columbia, Knoxville, Athens, or Baton Rouge that given weekend?

 

[TerryP]

I was simply saying it because you worded it as you didn't care for UAB, then you mentioned the other two schools as if you didn't even care about them like UAB. That's why I brought that up.

I didn't care about UAB football one way or another in the past. My only opinion was if they can't keep their program from being millions in the red each season, they should consider dropping out of D1.

Then, when all of this crap hit the fan and they shut down the program...state rep on his little pulpit about how it needs to be revived (with very few mentioning his vested interest in UAB's social media outlets) it turned me off completely.

 

[BamaFan334]

I didn't care about UAB football one way or another in the past. My only opinion was if they can't keep their program from being millions in the red each season, they should consider dropping out of D1.

Then, when all of this crap hit the fan and they shut down the program...state rep on his little pulpit about how it needs to be revived (with very few mentioning his vested interest in UAB's social media outlets) it turned me off completely.

Gotcha Gotcha. I didn't know the whole background behind the closing of the program other than not making money (maybe that was the entire reason?), then a couple years later they revive it like they struck oil to fund it or something. So yeah, I understand your being turned off from their program.

 

[TerryP]

Bringing in Charleston Southern and Chattanooga did not get Tuscaloosa to where it is today, and there is not one fact out there that can show those OOC games built Tuscaloosa.

It's certainly one facet of why the city is where it is today. It's not the main reason but to suggest it hasn't had it's impact is short-sighted.

Coach Saban and his machine have built Tuscaloosa the last ten years, not the OOC hotel and food revenues. For anyone to say playing Troy or UAB ONE game of the season brings down what was built or changes the outcome of what we currently see is about as ludicrous as it gets. I'll say it again, I personally don't care either way and hate us playing any FCS schools, but I can't sit there and listen to people saying these Alabama schools will kill the local economy when that is simply not true.

No one has suggested it would kill the local economy.

I have stated it helps the city with revenue. Any business owner in town will tell you the same. If I've heard it once, I've heard it a hundred times.

You say people from Birmingham and Troy will not stay the night, but what about those extra Alabama fans that may get tickets and travel from out of state to see the game since they can actually get seats? I'm betting it would make up for the lack of revenue an in-state school would make.

Dude. Those fans are going to come to town if it's UAB or UTC. Playing one, versus the other, isn't going to change whether Joe Smith decides to come.

Fans of UAB not staying in a local establishment doesn't equate to more tickets.

 

[TerryP]

Gotcha Gotcha. I didn't know the whole background behind the closing of the program other than not making money (maybe that was the entire reason?), then a couple years later they revive it like they struck oil to fund it or something. So yeah, I understand your being turned off from their program.

And, don't even get some of us old timers started on Gene Bartow. And I can't really call myself an old-timer--I've just associated with a lot of them over the years.