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With all of this I keep hoping cooler heads will prevail. Improve some areas of police sure we all can retrospect and improve. Make sure any bad apples are dealt with which I believe is in the minority.

I really appreciate your approach and the idea of this as an end game.... And in a more perfect world, this could get done fairly easily. It sounds simple, right?

But I think the point must be made in regards to the systematic issues... Especially judicially. If someone points out (what I believe to be factually) that one ethnicity is sentenced to more time for like crimes than another, those simple solutions are much bigger than just firing a few people. Which is why I empathize with that BLM movement of "it's bigger than just bad apples". From what I've seen, a legitimate argument can be made that systematically people are being treated differently. And then the frustration of "how do we change the system?", and when you can see both parties largely failing the people... Frustration grows to aggression... And so on and so on.
 
Only this. Issues plentiful....
Workable solutions ....rare if any

Raise awareness...great
Sustainable awareness.... difficult

Working together... fantastic
Burning ang looting.... counter productive

So with heightened awareness....
Where do we go as a society?
 
Absolutely needs to be justice reform. Justice should be blind and equal, but all of this back and forth can be boiled down to ā€œdon’t commit crimes large or smallā€.
Portland, Milwaukee, Kenosha are on the heads of BLM/Pantifa. I hope and pray that they keep their shit out of my neighborhood.
 
From what I've seen, a legitimate argument can be made that systematically people are being treated differently. And then the frustration of "how do we change the system?", and when you can see both parties largely failing the people... Frustration grows to aggression... And so on and so on.

I don't think there is any question that the black or latino communities have been treated differently. The question I have is this due primarily from systemic racism or because many of the these communities are in low income, high crime areas. I can't blame a police officer for taking precaution in these areas but certainly not to the point we've seen in this situations like Floyd.

From my own research, I am hearing/reading that the whole reason that these high crime communities are at a disadvantage due to systemic racism or lack of privilege (whole other thread topic). The culprit being that these minority communities are forced to live in high crime areas due to racism. That, people of color have been victimized mentally & physically so as to that they are unable to get out of these for their own good. As such, this is a self-repeating, generational, systemic problem for these communities. I agree there are folks stuck in this victimization situation which cultivates this racism narrative, especially as police officers are having to deal with consistent life threatening situations in these communities of color.

But is racism the ONLY, majority reason for keeping these communities in this systemic state? I humbly do not think so nor do I think that is the main reason. For me it comes down to one simple truth & that is if my kids/wife were growing up in a place where they were in danger, I'd get them out. I can still get public assistance under WIC, my kids can still get Medicaid, if we find a place that we can move to. If I need to work two jobs (which I have done), so be it. If I needed to go to college/tech school full time, so I can get a better paying job (which I've done), so be it. It is my complete responsibility to provide for these things for my family. Non-negotiable. And what's interesting is that when anyone decides to get out of those dangerous communities to do whatever it takes, they typically are able to get out despite a racist environment in which they live.

However, I do think some things need to change to help folks do that. I am totally convinced that one of the things that has discouraged the fundamental effects of a nuclear family in these poor communities is how government assistance is reduced or even eliminated when couples marry. The original intent of this government assistance was to assist single mothers who's husband or father of her children abandoned them. But nowadays, its the very thing inhibiting folks from marrying & working together. Basically, the pendulum has swung one government policy objective to now a completely different objective. So, if we really do believe that having a nuclear family makes a big difference on these matters we need to KEEP the government assistance for those folks who really are trying to get their families out of areas of system poverty & racism.
 
@Crimson&WhiteGecko I agree to an extent to what you are saying about where they live, low income, high crime areas. I don't know necessarily if it is racism or a lack of privilege. Here in my school system, we did a cohort on poverty. We had teachers from the HS that said that these kids' goals were to get out of school, get an apartment in the projects, have kids and get government checks. It's what their mom did and what her grandmother did. It's all they know.
Personally, I think there is some tones of greed from within their own ranks. We have several teachers and even a couple of administrators that came from those projects. Instead of being the ones touting "hey, you can do it! You can come from the lowest places and make it. I'm an example! I grew up right in that apartment! I know the struggles that you go through. I'm here to help you make your way." These kids hear it from our white teachers, myself included, and the kids look at us with the look of " you don't know what it's like! You don't know anything about the projects!" The ones that should be helping are standing back like they are protecting their valuables. Like they are afraid that these younger ones will come and take what they have earned.
 
Absolutely needs to be justice reform. Justice should be blind and equal, but all of this back and forth can be boiled down to ā€œdon’t commit crimes large or smallā€.
Portland, Milwaukee, Kenosha are on the heads of BLM/Pantifa. I hope and pray that they keep their shit out of my neighborhood.

Not sure what "on the heads of" means. The people causing the most problems and getting arrested in Kenosha are from out of state. Same in Portland. People are driving from out of state for the sole purpose of committing crimes and violence to further sow seeds of discord. These are domestic terrorists, like the POS 17 year old murderer from IL as case in point.
 
The 17 year old was attacked and it was self defense. He was shot at first.
Not sure what "on the heads of" means. The people causing the most problems and getting arrested in Kenosha are from out of state. Same in Portland. People are driving from out of state for the sole purpose of committing crimes and violence to further sow seeds of discord. These are domestic terrorists, like the POS 17 year old murderer from IL as case in point.
 
It all comes down to one simple fact
Regardless of someone's "difference", treat all females like you would want your daughter treated and all males like you would want your son to be treated. Nope, maybe you can't change everyone, but you sure can look yourself in the mirror and figure out if you are part of the problem or part of the solution and you can call out those within your circle when they clearly cross the line. And it's also important I believe, that the media whether it's left based or right based is held accountable. They have gone unchecked for far too long
 
Not sure what "on the heads of" means. The people causing the most problems and getting arrested in Kenosha are from out of state. Same in Portland. People are driving from out of state for the sole purpose of committing crimes and violence to further sow seeds of discord. These are domestic terrorists, like the POS 17 year old murderer from IL as case in point.

It merely means that they own it, nothing more nothing less. Don’t go looking for a boogey man, I’m not him. I don’t consider the origination point of the rioters to matter in the least, it should be obvious to anyone there is massive coordination with them. I read an interview with a BLM guy that caught a rubber bullet to his dangly bits. He was from S Africa. WTF is he here for? It remains to be seen if the kid is indeed a murderer, I will let it play out.

The cop that was the excuse for it all should be shot for stupidity. It seems Floyd was OD’ing. I wonder if the PD there even uses narcan. He could have been saved. That pisses me off.
 
These are domestic terrorists, like the POS 17 year old murderer from IL as case in point.
According to what I've read he was called and asked to come to help a friend protect his business from being looted or destroyed. We're still getting details on how that progressed, are we not?

Here we have a situation with a guy getting shot seven times in the back after the police had been called. He'd just sexually assaulted someone. A lot of people got up in arms about this story without knowing those details.

Are you doing the same thing here? Or, have you heard the story about his call, the one asking for help, and don't believe it?
 
According to what I've read he was called and asked to come to help a friend protect his business from being looted or destroyed. We're still getting details on how that progressed, are we not?

Here we have a situation with a guy getting shot seven times in the back after the police had been called. He'd just sexually assaulted someone. A lot of people got up in arms about this story without knowing those details.

Are you doing the same thing here? Or, have you heard the story about his call, the one asking for help, and don't believe it?

False narrative. Charges were filed in July. Officers were unaware of this information at the time of the call and their response.
 
Negative. A little bit of research would open your eyes

"We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work ā€œdouble shiftsā€ so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ā€œvillagesā€ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."

The above statement was taken from their website. I believe it's a matter of interpretation. I read this and I don't see it as opposition to the nuclear family, but basically stating the a family can be more than just the traditional core structure of two parents with children. This definition of nuclear family was taken from google - "A nuclear family, elementary family or conjugal family is a family group consisting of two parents and their children (one or more). It is in contrast to a single-parent family, the larger extended family, or a family with more than two parents." Statistics show that single parent homes are growing across all races and socioeconomic groups. When I read this statement, I see an organization stating it supports all types families including those that don't satisfy the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure. So once again, it's a matter of interpretation in my opinion. If you want to make it negative you can, but I don't see it as such.
 
False narrative. Charges were filed in July. Officers were unaware of this information at the time of the call and their response.
How are they unaware of the situation with a warrant out? The reports say they knew according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association.
 
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