📡 Alabama football players, coaches to march on Monday in protest of racial inequality - TideSports.com

[XXL TideFan]

This is where A LOT of people are missing the boat! I’ve seen a lot of comments that include “if they are supporting BLM, then I’m done with them!” Not one time have these kids said one word about supporting that organization. You can be for one and not the other!

Yes, unfortunately they are tied at the moment. Can’t make stupid videos about blm and march without it being tied. You are no more in their minds than I am. Besides, there was any of this bullshit until blm. Can you even acknowledge how they are more joined than not?

 

[50+yeartidefan]

As a "senior" ( i hate the term...but better than old fart)
I really dont how to feel...
For the ones that kneel for our National Anthem....regardless of what they say...it is disrespectful to all those whohave served...have given their life...who love America..

For the ones that destroy history...public or private property...try to or do intimidate those they disagree with...kill or maim public officials...police, first responders, fire fighters.....they are thugs...criminals... and should be dealt as so....
Go on utube and see what Minneapolis looks like...those arethugs...

To have a peaceful march.... to say what you feel...to respect what others say and about how they feel... i say this....thats about as American as it gets...
Raise awareness....not just identify problems...but offer solutions...
Go for it....

As far as "black lives matter" ...that racism...the one thing they profess to hate...they do... that makes only sense...fueled by media.... which is none
Of course black, white, blue etc lives matter...

 

[RollllTide!]

Wow. Some of the responses here are simple amazing. I speak to young people of all races, socio-economic groups and ethnicities and I will definitely be using this thread as a point of discussion at the next group meeting.

What are you promoting or teaching to these young people. America has a wide diversity. There is only one thing we have in common. We all bleed crimson. None of the opinions on this site are any different than the ones on facebook, twitter, etc. It is just another way to express our opinions. Opinions are like belly buttons. We all have our own. Some with lint and some without.

 

[TerryP]

You only seem to be missing that they are not rioting to improve the country or lives. They are rioting to end them.

I'm not that daft. It doesn't take an elementary education to understand what "Death to America" means (as seen in Oakland.)

If you don't recall, I was in downtown Charleston when the riots and violence first struck here. I didn't stay. I sure as hell didn't run. I had things to do. I have friends who were trapped inside businesses down there. None of this is lost on me.

 

[Tidestalker]

I do believe there are social injustices within the judicial system and we've been seeing this.

Since the George Floyd killing, I really tried to take an open minded dive into this issue.

The one thing I found inarguable, after looking at multiple sources that I BELIEVE were objective and legitimate, was that African Americans are sentenced more harshly than whites for like crimes. (I also found what I believe is pretty strong evidence that they are more likely to be policed differently - But those types of studies can be more subjective, so I won't dive into that).

Whether or not you believe in the BLM movement, whether or not you think some of these killings are justified, are cops under an unfair microscope, etc.... The sentencing issues in itself are a legitimate injustice. It's not OK. The judicial system is flawed. And if you legitimately look into that issue, see the same #'s I did, and believe that's not a problem... Then IMO some self evaluation may be necessary.

 

[BamaFan334]

Since the George Floyd killing, I really tried to take an open minded dive into this issue.

The one thing I found inarguable, after looking at multiple sources that I BELIEVE were objective and legitimate, was that African Americans are sentenced more harshly than whites for like crimes. (I also found what I believe is pretty strong evidence that they are more likely to be policed differently - But those types of studies can be more subjective, so I won't dive into that).

Whether or not you believe in the BLM movement, whether or not you think some of these killings are justified, are cops under an unfair microscope, etc.... The sentencing issues in itself are a legitimate injustice. It's not OK. The judicial system is flawed. And if you legitimately look into that issue, see the same #'s I did, and believe that's not a problem... Then IMO some self evaluation may be necessary.

You could say all of this as well when you compare a white child molester against another white child molester, or a white murderer against another white murderer. It's all about the kind of legal representation you can get. Most of this falls back on the judges and system that allow lawyers to bend rules and navigate them to allow for these disparities. Your comments, while probably hold some truth, or high level comments. Do certain people have records, how many strikes do they have in their community, do they pose a threat? A lot goes into decisions, but I tend to agree that sentencing for crimes is never the same, for any race or gender.

 

[Tidestalker]

You could say all of this as well when you compare a white child molester against another white child molester, or a white murderer against another white murderer. It's all about the kind of legal representation you can get. Most of this falls back on the judges and system that allow lawyers to bend rules and navigate them to allow for these disparities. Your comments, while probably hold some truth, or high level comments. Do certain people have records, how many strikes do they have in their community, do they pose a threat? A lot goes into decisions, but I tend to agree that sentencing for crimes is never the same, for any race or gender.

Look into it, brother.

Let me know what you find.

Like I alluded to, we all have to find sources we believe are accurate and objective.

I'm very comfortable with my statements.

 

[bamaledge]

As I recall, there was only one Adam and one Eve. Sooo, wouldn’t that makes all brothers and sisters.
I agree with whoever said that you make of your life what you make of it.
im gonna start some shit now, or maybe not... I think the middle class white folks is getting screwed on alot of issues.

 

[XXL TideFan]

No sir, I did not know about your experience in Charleston or have forgotten reading it. Experiencing barbaric, mindless mob violence has to be a harrowing experience.

Back to the players, regardless of why they think they are marching, the timing makes it nearly impossible for many not to associate the two. You simply cannot have any BLM lettering in the march without the association, it is the brand.

The brand is no different than KKK. Both are hate groups, read their website. The only difference between the two groups is BLM has tons of cash, celebrities, pro athletes and an entire political party in its corner.

 

[XXL TideFan]

You could say all of this as well when you compare a white child molester against another white child molester, or a white murderer against another white murderer. It's all about the kind of legal representation you can get. Most of this falls back on the judges and system that allow lawyers to bend rules and navigate them to allow for these disparities. Your comments, while probably hold some truth, or high level comments. Do certain people have records, how many strikes do they have in their community, do they pose a threat? A lot goes into decisions, but I tend to agree that sentencing for crimes is never the same, for any race or gender.

Look into it, brother.

Let me know what you find.

Like I alluded to, we all have to find sources we believe are accurate and objective.

I'm very comfortable with my statements.

Both of you are correct. I may have multiple statements on here about having a legal system not a justice system, there was a reason Jesus never associated with religious leaders and lawyers, the more corrupt a nation the more numerous the laws. The last being a butchered quote of Tacitus. I’m no Biden I try not to plagerize

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

This is a pretty simple one, summarized best by Coach Saban. He supports the players on a topic that affects them and that they feels strongly about. There's no question the players will handle themselves professionally and diplomatically. Supporting them is a no-brainer.

 

[XXL TideFan]

This is a pretty simple one, summarized best by Coach Saban. He supports the players on a topic that affects them and that they feels strongly about. There's no question the players will handle themselves professionally and diplomatically. Supporting them is a no-brainer.

Agreed, unless they pop out the BLM brand. I would hope the difference between another hate group and justice reform has been explained to them.

 

[Tidestalker]

Agreed, unless they pop out the BLM brand. I would hope the difference between another hate group and justice reform has been explained to them.

What if they do...?

 

[XXL TideFan]

What if they do...?

That would be up to each individual fan how they receive or act on it, would it not?

 

[Tidestalker]

That would be up to each individual fan how they receive or act on it, would it not?

Yes - And since you brought it up, how would you act on it?

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Over the weekend there was discussion of the UAPD Chief joining the march and speaking at the event. Not sure if that all got worked out, but I know its a possibility. I'd bet this entire thing will be handled as well as possible. Think back to the statement the team released (from Leatherwood)... It got a strong message across without really alienating any certain group. While I know I don't view the issues the same way as many of Bama's players, I 100% support and respect their right to do this, as it will be done peacefully. They've had their experiences, I've had mine, and you've had yours. Hopefully at some point, some solutions can be reached that bridge this gap in society (a gap that probably isn't nearly as wide as the media makes it appear).

 

[XXL TideFan]

Yes - And since you brought it up, how would you act on it?

The better question would be. Why would you ask of something that isn’t any of your concern?

 

[Tidestalker]

The better question would be. Why would you ask of something that isn’t any of your concern?

Same reason you are concerned about what Alabama football players are doing on their own time....

Because I'm interested.

 

[XXL TideFan]

Same reason you are concerned about what Alabama football players are doing on their own time....

Because I'm interested.

Therein sir lies your quandary. One is a public display and the other is personal. However I will indulge you. The point is moot, I am too insignificant to make a difference. I have zero cable or internet and their one or two OTA games may or may not be watched.

Now please, indulge me. Are you a supporter of BLM? Not black lives matter.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

Agreed, unless they pop out the BLM brand. I would hope the difference between another hate group and justice reform has been explained to them.

I think you're getting into semantics. Someone saying black lives matter, or having that statement on a shirt doesn't mean an affiliation with that organization. So if players are saying black lives matter, I have no problem with that.

It's not really complicated with me. I support protestors. I don't support people looting and committing crimes. I support law enforcement. I absolutely don't support bad cops and those who commit crimes and use their position of power to kill people unjustly. The cops in my family feel the same.