🏈 You guys into an "official" talk about Missiouri thread? Seems like as good of a time as any.

[reedus23]

If they run the table and end the season with only one loss, being in their conference tournament, and are 25-1 or whatever, I am pretty sure they get into the tournament and are probably a higher seed than whoever wins the conference tournament. I don't know if I personally agree they should get in along with another team from their conference under those circumstances because the only teams of note that they played are Memphis and Dayton.

 

[TerryP]

They are talking about automatic bids here. They have to be.

Bo, find that year with Alabama State you're talking about.

Simple process. 32 automatic, 32 at large, with the play-in games.

It had to be something really weird for a team with two losses to get left out. They had to have had more OOC loses of note.

 

[Bo]

They are talking about automatic bids here. They have to be.

Bo, find that year with Alabama State you're talking about.

Simple process. 32 automatic, 32 at large, with the play-in games.

It had to be something really weird for a team with two losses to get left out. They had to have had more OOC loses of note.

They had more than 2 losses, they just didn't have many conference losses. 1 or 2 conference losses at the most. I think they finished with a total of like 8 losses, but missed the tourney. Didn't even get the play in game.

I'm not saying the regular season AND the tournament winner should get an auto bid. I just think the regular season champ should get the bid if only one or the other is going to get it.

**Edit**
I'm checking with a friend of mine now that is on the ASU staff to find out what year and what the record was.

 

[reedus23]

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2012/02/07/plans-tiger-town-continue-city-council-meeting/

I'm not sure if any are planning on traveling to Columbia for the game this year, but some changes/plans that have been discussed since the announcement of Mizzou joining the SEC. Hopefully it all gets worked out and in place before the season starts.

 

[LBS]

"Missouri has sold out only one home game this season, its homecoming victory over Iowa State, and had nearly 10,000 empty seats in a recent home game, a Nov. 12 victory over Texas."
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/11/20/missouri-mulls-stadium-expansion-sec-awaits/

With a capacity of 71,004, the quote above makes it interesting. Either joining the SEC turns it around for in regards to attendance, or Columbia becomes the easiest road game ticket to get for a conference game.

This same piece also noted that the SEC required 7000 tickets that were required to be offered to visiting team was three times that of the BIG 12 norm. Reading between the lines, they are likley not use to traveling in big numbers themselves.

 

[TerryP]

"Missouri has sold out only one home game this season, its homecoming victory over Iowa State, and had nearly 10,000 empty seats in a recent home game, a Nov. 12 victory over Texas."
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/11/20/missouri-mulls-stadium-expansion-sec-awaits/

With a capacity of 71,004, the quote above makes it interesting. Either joining the SEC turns it around for in regards to attendance, or Columbia becomes the easiest road game ticket to get for a conference game.

This same piece also noted that the SEC required 7000 tickets that were required to be offered to visiting team was three times that of the BIG 12 norm. Reading between the lines, they are likley not use to traveling in big numbers themselves.

It'll be pretty hard to supplant Vandy for that honor! :lol:

 

[reedus23]

I haven't seen any hard numbers, but the word is that both season ticket sales and donations are way up since the announcement of the move to the SEC. Having said that, I would agree that there have been disappointing crowds at many games. The bigger games brought bigger crowds obviously. The good news is, for us, every game next year will be a bigger game. Plus, there is just an overall new found energy after joining the SEC. There is definitely a learning curve going from the Big 12 to the SEC but I think you will see the support continue to grow. We're not used to seeing large crowds coming in from opposing schools while in the Big 12 and are taking steps to make Columbia a more enjoyable experience with the understanding that the SEC fans do travel unlike any other conference's teams. As far as MU fanbase traveling to away games, I won't suggest you will see the same levels as Alabama sends to their away games, but the topic of which away games people are going to and which ones they most want to attend are a common topic on the Missouri message board, with many of them having already booked hotels and yes, planning weddings around games. Again, it will be a learning curve for MU but I think you will see the support in that respect continue to grow too. After all, I think there is a little bit of a difference between going to just about any SEC venue versus going to Manhatten Kansas, with all due respect to Manhatten.

 

[reedus23]

And for a team like Alabama coming to town, I can guarantee you, it will be a full house with Missouri fans looking high and low looking for tickets. I will be there, tickets or not. lol In fact, I have heard all hotels in Columbia are filled to capacity and that Jefferson City (30 miles away) is nearly to capacity if not already full. The bigger question for us is, will the stadium continue to be packed for the Kentucky's and Vanderbilt's.

 

[TerryP]

"Missouri has sold out only one home game this season, its homecoming victory over Iowa State, and had nearly 10,000 empty seats in a recent home game, a Nov. 12 victory over Texas."
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/11/20/missouri-mulls-stadium-expansion-sec-awaits/

With a capacity of 71,004, the quote above makes it interesting. Either joining the SEC turns it around for in regards to attendance, or Columbia becomes the easiest road game ticket to get for a conference game.

This same piece also noted that the SEC required 7000 tickets that were required to be offered to visiting team was three times that of the BIG 12 norm. Reading between the lines, they are likley not use to traveling in big numbers themselves.

I haven't read a lot about it, but from what I have seen Missouri makes a big deal out of homecoming. So, the fact that sold out doesn't surprise me.

 

[TerryP]

It's Sunday so I"ll set aside the "ass-hole" side of my personality for a minute: ONLY a minute.

You've been a great new addition here. 'preciate you stopping in for a spell and hope you stick around!

I haven't seen any hard numbers, but the word is that both season ticket sales and donations are way up since the announcement of the move to the SEC. Having said that, I would agree that there have been disappointing crowds at many games. The bigger games brought bigger crowds obviously. The good news is, for us, every game next year will be a bigger game. Plus, there is just an overall new found energy after joining the SEC. There is definitely a learning curve going from the Big 12 to the SEC but I think you will see the support continue to grow. We're not used to seeing large crowds coming in from opposing schools while in the Big 12 and are taking steps to make Columbia a more enjoyable experience with the understanding that the SEC fans do travel unlike any other conference's teams. As far as MU fanbase traveling to away games, I won't suggest you will see the same levels as Alabama sends to their away games, but the topic of which away games people are going to and which ones they most want to attend are a common topic on the Missouri message board, with many of them having already booked hotels and yes, planning weddings around games. Again, it will be a learning curve for MU but I think you will see the support in that respect continue to grow too. After all, I think there is a little bit of a difference between going to just about any SEC venue versus going to Manhatten Kansas, with all due respect to Manhatten.

Caveat: I'm not saying this as a slight on Georgia.

Your fans will get a little exposure to how some SEC fan bases travel with the Bulldogs. It'll probably be a a slightly larger contingent this year because of their schedule and what's considered a legitimate shot at returning to ATL for the SECCG.

That said, and this is an attempt to set my Bama loyalties aside, I don't see them traveling to MO as well as we will. The last game I attended—west of the Mississippi River—was the trip to Norman. Now, considering it was OU vs Bama, that automatically added a few travelers that wouldn't have attended...say, a game with Okie St. Just the RV camp alone had over 300 RV's from Bama. It was literally a "city" that moved into Norman that year.

It shocked the OU fan base, specifically their Admin., so much that Stoops and Castiglione jumped in a golf cart simply to take in the sights that Friday night.

On a side note: I consider Castiglione one of the best AD's in the business. I just remembered. OU snatched him from you guys back in the late nineties, didn't they?

And for a team like Alabama coming to town, I can guarantee you, it will be a full house with Missouri fans looking high and low looking for tickets. I will be there, tickets or not. lol In fact, I have heard all hotels in Columbia are filled to capacity and that Jefferson City (30 miles away) is nearly to capacity if not already full. The bigger question for us is, will the stadium continue to be packed for the Kentucky's and Vanderbilt's.

Just after a brief glance, I'd guess both UK and VU will be at .500 when they travel to Columbus. IF Vandy can pull one upset they may travel decently. But, it won't be a case where they sell out allotment. At least, I don't expect them to do so.

 

[TerryP]

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2012/02/07/plans-tiger-town-continue-city-council-meeting/

I'm not sure if any are planning on traveling to Columbia for the game this year, but some changes/plans that have been discussed since the announcement of Mizzou joining the SEC. Hopefully it all gets worked out and in place before the season starts.

Now, back to my real self! :hyper:

The author of that piece, Grace Lyden, has undoubtedly NEVER been to "The Grove" at Ole Miss. There isn't a tailgate in the NCAA that is comparable. N. O. N. E.

In fact, the comparison to USC's "Coop" is a stretch as well. The only thing these two have in common are football fans on a game day.

If you make it to a game in Cola, be sure to check out the Cockaboose section on the east side of WBS. One hell of a tailgate there if you can "befriend" some Gamecock fans.

 

[motigers]

You're probably right that she's never been to the Grove, but I don't think she meant that they are going to try to recreate the atmosphere or tradition of the Grove. The comparison was more of a logistical or geographic one rather than game-day atmosphere. I think all they are trying to do is have a more centralized pre- and post-game gathering spot where fans congregate. Right now, tailgating is big at Mizzou but it's very spread out over a whole bunch of small to medium size parking lots near the stadium where everyone brings their own food and drink. This won't change of course, but what they want to do is also create a large area close to downtown for people to gather which will make it easier for local businesses, especially restaurants and bars, to profit from the increased visitors from SEC schools.

 

[TerryP]

You're probably right that she's never been to the Grove, but I don't think she meant that they are going to try to recreate the atmosphere or tradition of the Grove. The comparison was more of a logistical or geographic one rather than game-day atmosphere. I think all they are trying to do is have a more centralized pre- and post-game gathering spot where fans congregate. Right now, tailgating is big at Mizzou but it's very spread out over a whole bunch of small to medium size parking lots near the stadium where everyone brings their own food and drink. This won't change of course, but what they want to do is also create a large area close to downtown for people to gather which will make it easier for local businesses, especially restaurants and bars, to profit from the increased visitors from SEC schools.

I understand what she was driving at but also realize she's on the wrong road.

I'm glad you guys are trying to get something set up like that. It'll be great for the fans and their pregame get-togethers!

FWIW, you won't find "vendors booths, restaurant booths, or radio stations" in the Coop. It's a gated lot with a building set aside for large donors. It has nothing to do with the "everyday" fan base.

I don't recall seeing those things the last time I was in Oxford.

I'm not taking shots at the author or the intent of the promotion. I am taking issue with her examples. All of the SEC venues are like the ones you guys are putting together, sans one. South Carolina. Heck, you can find the tailgates within two blocks of BDS on the Quad. Two blocks in the other direction you have fans gathering around the bars and restaurants.

Honestly, it reminds me more of Penn State's pregame rituals. That's not a bad thing as long as you take out the kids having a little too much leeway with what they've been "partaking in."