Tell us how you really feel [MENTION=11359]Argo[/MENTION]!
🏈 Tony Brown (early-entry) arrested Saturday night:
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Tell us how you really feel [MENTION=11359]Argo[/MENTION]!
And that's where it gets tough coaching them and convincing them to buy into the system (or process, if you will).
BamaFan334
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Either way it went down, why can't you just listen to the cops and back up? Was it worth the publicized problems it'll cause, was it worth it to get sprayed, is it going to be worth the stairs you're going to run, was the reputation you'll get worth it? Now this is nothing compared to stealing from a teammate, DUI, drugs, or a serial number being filed off like they have to handle at Georgia, but being on top like Alabama is, they'll look for anything and everything to report. I'm not going to say "oh they're just kids", because I think that's the biggest bullshirt argument so many people throw out there to take up for their team. Any kid six years old and older knows not to confront a police officer or anyone of the law. It's common sense and there is no excuse for it, even if you want to be edgy and cool to a bunch of other idiots that will laugh about you from the confines of their own room that night. In the end, yes the media sensationalizes everything in order to garner attention and "hits" on their articles, but there is no need to give them ammunition by making idiot decisions that a little kid knows better than.
I have a close friend who was arrested and tossed in the TPD jail for yelling at an undercover cop who was driving dangerously. The cop turned around and threw him in jail without any real cause.
My friend decided not to pursue legal action, but could have. Not every case of arrest is a serious issue. I don't know if that is relevant here, but it certainly seems as if it could be.
For what it's worth, I DO believe the majority of police officers - especially on the TPD force - are very decent people.
My friend decided not to pursue legal action, but could have. Not every case of arrest is a serious issue. I don't know if that is relevant here, but it certainly seems as if it could be.
For what it's worth, I DO believe the majority of police officers - especially on the TPD force - are very decent people.
All this talk about how Saban is going to punish this young man… what about his punishment from the track team? How do you punish a runner, albeit a sprinter, with running? Will he be suspended from track?
If you are in heavy training for track what were you doing up so late? Really! You’re not working very hard then, are you?
Say what you want, I’ve been there in track. How does he have enough energy to be out doing what he’s doing? This young man does not know what hard work is. Flame away. Been there, done that. I know what I’m talking about.
If you are in heavy training for track what were you doing up so late? Really! You’re not working very hard then, are you?
Say what you want, I’ve been there in track. How does he have enough energy to be out doing what he’s doing? This young man does not know what hard work is. Flame away. Been there, done that. I know what I’m talking about.
Who said punished more? I said you don't punish runners with running.
Look at how I wrote that, Chief.
You certainly are talking about punishment coming from Saban OR the track team.
All I'm saying is getting thrown in jail over something this minor...why add more to what he's already going to get (or has gotten in the case of being locked up?)
It's not what, it's why.
PhillyGirl
Member
No, Saban hasn't said a thing about this. The only statement coming from UA came from Purinton and he said "Saban was aware of the situation."
That may be older than you are, Jill. It has to be as old as Free Shoes U, and other monickers that are similar.
planomateo
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Worthy of a share...a peak into his thinking, not sure what the Track Coach is thinking.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Finished up with Saban. Asked about Tony Brown arrest and said "sometimes people are in the wrong place at the wrong time."</p>— D.C. Reeves (@_DCReeves) <a href="https://twitter.com/_DCReeves/statuses/425716885024677888">January 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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BAMANEWSBOT
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Witnesses say police the aggressors in melee that led to Alabama football player's arrest (video)
Witnesses from Tuscaloosa apartment parking lot refute police account of incident that included pepper spray.
Read More Here...
Alabama cornerback Tony Brown was pepper sprayed, arrested then charged with failure to obey and resisting arrest Saturday night at an off-campus party. That was the Tuscaloosa Police Department's account, according to a press release Sunday night.
Multiple eyewitnesses, however, have told AL.com the news release was filled with inaccuracies or fabrications. One witness told AL.com an unidentified officer pointed a gun at Brown and others during the encounter.
Multiple attempts by AL.com to obtain or view an arrest report and any other public documents linked to the incident were rejected by Tuscaloosa police. Sgt. Brent Blankley said Tuesday the press release would be the only comment from the department.
Jaison Davis, 23 from Atlanta, said Brown was never threatening to the two police officers, who responded to a noise complaint at Campus Way, an off-campus student apartment complex. The party was attended by mostly Alabama track and field team members, Davis and other witnesses said.
Police ordered Brown, also a member of the track team, and other witnesses to disperse in the parking lot. The officers could not be identified without arrest reports, which police would not release to AL.com and other news outlets. Blankley refused to name the officers.
According to the press release, Brown "would walk a few steps away and then would walk right back towards officers. The officers warned the individual that if he did not leave the parking lot he would be arrested. The individual yelled threatening profanity at the officer and stepped toward the officers again."
That's not true, said Davis and fellow Campus Way resident Richard Sharper.
They say Brown and a few other guests turned to leave immediately after officers pulled out the pepper spray. Brown walked approximately 30-40 yards to his car with an officer following behind, they said. The officer walked beside Brown and pepper sprayed Brown in the face as the athlete was complying with the command to leave, said Davis who only briefly met Brown before Saturday night..
"The police officer kept heckling him in his ear walking behind him," said Sharper, a 19-year-old Alabama student from Tuscaloosa.
Davis and Sharper said they never saw Brown say anything or make any threatening move to provoke the pepper spray.
Brown immediately fell to the ground in a fetal position, Davis said, as the officer pulled his gun. The crowd, which had been relatively calm to that point, was more tense after the pepper spray was used and when the gun came out, Davis said.
Sharper said everyone moved away fast when they saw the gun.
"I was like 'whoa, he's going crazy,'" Sharper said.
The officer then approached Davis, and instructed him to leave. In video provided by Davis, he can be heard yelling at the officer he said sprayed Brown. Davis argued he had a right to stay at the scene because he lived in the complex.
"I'm going to say it now," the unidentified officer tells Davis on the video. "Walk away now."
Davis said he raised his arm to shield his eyes expecting to get the pepper spray and cut the video off a few seconds later.
Click here for the video (Warning: adult language)
David Thomas, 20 of Tuscaloosa, shares an apartment with Sharper which faces the parking lot where the confrontation took place. The Alabama student said the police officer appeared to become more aggressive when witnesses pulled out camera phones to capture video of the encounter.
Davis said there's at least five other videos out there that paint a much different picture than what police presented, though AL.com has not been able to obtain those.
Davis came forward to dispute accounts based solely on the police statement. Blankley said the police would not comment on claims their account of the situation was not accurate.
"We've already sent our statement of what happened," Blankley said. "That was the accounts given to us by the officers."
Attempts by AL.com to speak with Brown and other track athletes, who Davis and others say were at the scene, were unsuccessful through a request with Alabama's Athletics Communications.
Alabama football coach Nick Saban said he's spoken with Brown and he's doing fine.
"Look, some people are in the wrong place at the wrong time," Saban said in Mobile on Tuesday afternoon. "Some people don't make good decisions about what they do, what they say. Tony Brown's a fine young man, we're glad to have him in the program. We'll certainly try to use this as a learning experience for him.
"The punishment he receives will be so that he learns not to do something like this in a disrespectful way to somebody in a position of authority who is there to protect us all, which is our police. We're going to get him to learn from this."
Davis wants the record set straight.
"Everything that's on the Internet, that is a complete lie because it makes it seem like Tony was just totally insubordinate and straight ignoring every instruction by the police officers," Davis said. "And that wasn't the case at all."
Davis and other witnesses said the crowd was much smaller than the estimate of 40 listed in the news release. It was close to half that size, he said.
Witnesses from Tuscaloosa apartment parking lot refute police account of incident that included pepper spray.
Read More Here...
Alabama cornerback Tony Brown was pepper sprayed, arrested then charged with failure to obey and resisting arrest Saturday night at an off-campus party. That was the Tuscaloosa Police Department's account, according to a press release Sunday night.
Multiple eyewitnesses, however, have told AL.com the news release was filled with inaccuracies or fabrications. One witness told AL.com an unidentified officer pointed a gun at Brown and others during the encounter.
Multiple attempts by AL.com to obtain or view an arrest report and any other public documents linked to the incident were rejected by Tuscaloosa police. Sgt. Brent Blankley said Tuesday the press release would be the only comment from the department.
Jaison Davis, 23 from Atlanta, said Brown was never threatening to the two police officers, who responded to a noise complaint at Campus Way, an off-campus student apartment complex. The party was attended by mostly Alabama track and field team members, Davis and other witnesses said.
Police ordered Brown, also a member of the track team, and other witnesses to disperse in the parking lot. The officers could not be identified without arrest reports, which police would not release to AL.com and other news outlets. Blankley refused to name the officers.
According to the press release, Brown "would walk a few steps away and then would walk right back towards officers. The officers warned the individual that if he did not leave the parking lot he would be arrested. The individual yelled threatening profanity at the officer and stepped toward the officers again."
That's not true, said Davis and fellow Campus Way resident Richard Sharper.
They say Brown and a few other guests turned to leave immediately after officers pulled out the pepper spray. Brown walked approximately 30-40 yards to his car with an officer following behind, they said. The officer walked beside Brown and pepper sprayed Brown in the face as the athlete was complying with the command to leave, said Davis who only briefly met Brown before Saturday night..
"The police officer kept heckling him in his ear walking behind him," said Sharper, a 19-year-old Alabama student from Tuscaloosa.
Davis and Sharper said they never saw Brown say anything or make any threatening move to provoke the pepper spray.
Brown immediately fell to the ground in a fetal position, Davis said, as the officer pulled his gun. The crowd, which had been relatively calm to that point, was more tense after the pepper spray was used and when the gun came out, Davis said.
Sharper said everyone moved away fast when they saw the gun.
"I was like 'whoa, he's going crazy,'" Sharper said.
The officer then approached Davis, and instructed him to leave. In video provided by Davis, he can be heard yelling at the officer he said sprayed Brown. Davis argued he had a right to stay at the scene because he lived in the complex.
"I'm going to say it now," the unidentified officer tells Davis on the video. "Walk away now."
Davis said he raised his arm to shield his eyes expecting to get the pepper spray and cut the video off a few seconds later.
Click here for the video (Warning: adult language)
David Thomas, 20 of Tuscaloosa, shares an apartment with Sharper which faces the parking lot where the confrontation took place. The Alabama student said the police officer appeared to become more aggressive when witnesses pulled out camera phones to capture video of the encounter.
Davis said there's at least five other videos out there that paint a much different picture than what police presented, though AL.com has not been able to obtain those.
Davis came forward to dispute accounts based solely on the police statement. Blankley said the police would not comment on claims their account of the situation was not accurate.
"We've already sent our statement of what happened," Blankley said. "That was the accounts given to us by the officers."
Attempts by AL.com to speak with Brown and other track athletes, who Davis and others say were at the scene, were unsuccessful through a request with Alabama's Athletics Communications.
Alabama football coach Nick Saban said he's spoken with Brown and he's doing fine.
"Look, some people are in the wrong place at the wrong time," Saban said in Mobile on Tuesday afternoon. "Some people don't make good decisions about what they do, what they say. Tony Brown's a fine young man, we're glad to have him in the program. We'll certainly try to use this as a learning experience for him.
"The punishment he receives will be so that he learns not to do something like this in a disrespectful way to somebody in a position of authority who is there to protect us all, which is our police. We're going to get him to learn from this."
Davis wants the record set straight.
"Everything that's on the Internet, that is a complete lie because it makes it seem like Tony was just totally insubordinate and straight ignoring every instruction by the police officers," Davis said. "And that wasn't the case at all."
Davis and other witnesses said the crowd was much smaller than the estimate of 40 listed in the news release. It was close to half that size, he said.
An interesting read on the whole incident.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/01/witnesses_say_police_the_aggre.html
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/01/witnesses_say_police_the_aggre.html
PhillyGirl
Member
Oh man, maybe I'm not hip to Bama history as much I'd hope, but why did we get the Parole Tide moniker in the past?
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