🏈 Thoughts on CFB Playoff, Bama vs LSU and Recruiting

It's not their Defense that worries me.... They are a team that can score to keep up with us even vs a good defense...
When I consider the efficiency the Bama defense is playing with I just don't see that happening.

If you want to ride the Georgia train,
I'm not riding anyone's train. Neither UGA or LSU are what they are cracked up to be.

Neither team is as good as their '17 squad. LSU isn't any better today than they've been in years.

LSU has played teams with MUCH more talent, regardless of record, and won.

More than whom? UGA or UGA's opponents?
 
It's not their Defense that worries me.... They are a team that can score to keep up with us even vs a good defense...
When I consider the efficiency the Bama defense is playing with I just don't see that happening.

If you want to ride the Georgia train,
I'm not riding anyone's train. Neither UGA or LSU are what they are cracked up to be.

Neither team is as good as their '17 squad. LSU isn't any better today than they've been in years.

LSU has played teams with MUCH more talent, regardless of record, and won.

More than whom? UGA or UGA's opponents?

More than Georgia's opponents. It was more of a comparison of stats that you brought up Georgia leading in. Well they should be after playing that sorry ass schedule. Auburn, Miami, Mississippi State, and Washington may not all still be Top 10-20 teams, but we know they carry WAY more talent than anyone else Georgia has played.

Georgia is a very talented team, but the lack of Chubb, Michele, and Roquan has them looking for leaders. LSU will always have talent and I think they are better than they have been in recent years. I think we beat them by atleast three touchdowns, but that isn't saying much. I think LSU plays us harder than any other team on our schedule. We could have destroyed A&M, but clearly Saban called off the dogs on Jimbo, so I fully expect LSU to give us more of a game than anyone else, including Georgia if things end up with us two meeting in Atlanta.
 
LSU will always have talent and I think they are better than they have been in recent years.

How so? The numbers simply don't support that conclusion. The opponents they've faced aren't as good as they were last season (AU, UGA, Miami, et. al) and their numbers aren't as good this year as they were last.
 
How on Earth can you put Georgia ahead of LSU after that butt kicking they threw on the Dawgs? They showed us the blueprint for the SEC Championship. LSU smothered their ass and was rendered helpless the entire game. Please tell me you're not basing this off the Georgia-Florida game where Felipe Franks single handily killed his team's chance at winning.

Was Auburn better then UGA last year when they beat them the 1st time?

UGA played about as poor a game as I've seen them this year (the play calling and execution was pathetic) and LSU maybe their best game to date that day. UGA had wide open WR that Fromm couldn't come close to hitting for some reason. The coaches went away from a running game that LSU didn't seem to have an answer for... Fake FG and fumbles/interceptions...

Looking at both teams, UGA has a much higher ceiling than LSU...

Let's put it this way. If UGA and LSU were to play 10 games vs each other, UGA would win at least 7 of them and more likely 8 or 9.

Florida stopped Georgia seven times in a row on the goal line this past Saturday. They held Georgia in check for about three quarters of the game. Franks missed a wide open receiver on the first play of the game, threw a pathetic interception, and then fumbled on the one yard line to give Georgia six. Franks gave the game to Georgia, and that cannot be disproven. Georgia is nothing special. Georgia went away from the run against LSU because they weren't scoring points and got far enough behind that they had to get the ball downfield. They had like 120 rushing yards, and most of those were in the first half with zero points. Fromm had a bad game, but did you ever think LSU was maybe just that good? They have beaten teams no one outside of their locker room had them picked to beat. I would take LSU 7 out of those 10 times you speak of, because Georgia's defense is susceptible to the pass and definitely the run. Their offense is toast without a running game.

What was the score of the UF/LSU Game ? (In case you don't want to look that up it was UF 27 - LSU 19)

Had UF won vs UGA, I most likely would have considered UF ahead of LSU too...

Fromm missed wide open receivers when not under any pressures. How would that had been because LSU was "just that good"?
 
LSU will always have talent and I think they are better than they have been in recent years.

How so? The numbers simply don't support that conclusion. The opponents they've faced aren't as good as they were last season (AU, UGA, Miami, et. al) and their numbers aren't as good this year as they were last.

Then how do they keep winning? I could say the same about Georgia, and many other teams. Statistics from year to year are not static, they change and mean different things. Strength of schedule in every metric shows LSU has had the tougher schedule between the two, so that may support why Georgia has elevated offensive numbers. Did you expect LSU with that schedule to have larger numbers than a team that plays Middle Tennessee State, Austen Peay, Vanderbilt, and Tennessee? Kind of falls in line with that whole "SEC beating up on each other" everyone talked about during the BCS run. Playing tougher teams makes you look mere mortal. Outside of this season Alabama's offense has never really jumped off the page, we were balanced and let our defense stagger the opponent. That doesn't mean we were any worse than previous years, we just played to our strengths.
 
How on Earth can you put Georgia ahead of LSU after that butt kicking they threw on the Dawgs? They showed us the blueprint for the SEC Championship. LSU smothered their ass and was rendered helpless the entire game. Please tell me you're not basing this off the Georgia-Florida game where Felipe Franks single handily killed his team's chance at winning.

Was Auburn better then UGA last year when they beat them the 1st time?

UGA played about as poor a game as I've seen them this year (the play calling and execution was pathetic) and LSU maybe their best game to date that day. UGA had wide open WR that Fromm couldn't come close to hitting for some reason. The coaches went away from a running game that LSU didn't seem to have an answer for... Fake FG and fumbles/interceptions...

Looking at both teams, UGA has a much higher ceiling than LSU...

Let's put it this way. If UGA and LSU were to play 10 games vs each other, UGA would win at least 7 of them and more likely 8 or 9.

Florida stopped Georgia seven times in a row on the goal line this past Saturday. They held Georgia in check for about three quarters of the game. Franks missed a wide open receiver on the first play of the game, threw a pathetic interception, and then fumbled on the one yard line to give Georgia six. Franks gave the game to Georgia, and that cannot be disproven. Georgia is nothing special. Georgia went away from the run against LSU because they weren't scoring points and got far enough behind that they had to get the ball downfield. They had like 120 rushing yards, and most of those were in the first half with zero points. Fromm had a bad game, but did you ever think LSU was maybe just that good? They have beaten teams no one outside of their locker room had them picked to beat. I would take LSU 7 out of those 10 times you speak of, because Georgia's defense is susceptible to the pass and definitely the run. Their offense is toast without a running game.

What was the score of the UF/LSU Game ? (In case you don't want to look that up it was UF 27 - LSU 19)

Had UF won vs UGA, I most likely would have considered UF ahead of LSU too...

Fromm missed wide open receivers when not under any pressures. How would that had been because LSU was "just that good"?

Did you consider quarterback pressure from the defensive line of LSU? If Fromm had all day to throw and missed wide open receivers I would understand where you are coming from, but he was harassed all game long, not just back there having a picnic.
 
What was the score of the UF/LSU Game ? (In case you don't want to look that up it was UF 27 - LSU 19)

Had UF won vs UGA, I most likely would have considered UF ahead of LSU too...

Fromm missed wide open receivers when not under any pressures. How would that had been because LSU was "just that good"?

Did you consider quarterback pressure from the defensive line of LSU? If Fromm had all day to throw and missed wide open receivers I would understand where you are coming from, but he was harassed all game long, not just back there having a picnic.

ReRead my post, see above bolded. LSU had 2 QB hurries.. so of Fromm's 34 passing attempts, he was hurried 2 times... and one of those hurries was Fromm's last pass of the game.

BTW, UGA ran the ball with Swift/Hollyfield a total of 7 times in the 2nd half for a total of 48 yards (average 6.8 per carry)... half of those runs were on their 1st TD of the game. In the 1st half on the 2nd drive those two ran the ball 8 times for 69 yards before they tried two passes inside the redzone and a fake FG. Those two accounted for a total of 3 more rushing attempts the rest of the 1st half....

Also, I'm not saying UGA is that great a team either... just if I was ranking them, I'd put them ahead of LSU... In all honestly, LSU/UGA/UF I feel are all over ranked...
 
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Then how do they keep winning?
While LSU has almost maintained their status quo, their opponents are not as good as they were last season. It's pretty simple.

But my point was that they have a lot of talent, so even though their records may not show it, LSU is winning against talent. USC for example. Their record is awful, but I'll bet you $1,000 that they challenge Notre Dame. USC has more talent than Notre Dame, no?
 
USC has more talent than Notre Dame, no?
They do if we look at it in the light of the 2004 Tide team. A full roster, based on where we've seen classes ranked, one would give the nod to USC. But, USC--much like Bama in '04--is now down to starting their third string quarterback; true frosh Jack Sears.

I've never believed there was much of a difference between classes ranked in the top five from your recruiting services. The same goes for classes that were ranked #5- #10 and so on. Given current depth situations, it's very likely a pretty even draw.

Today, I'd certainly take ND's QB over USC's, and I'd definitely take ND's rushing attack over USC's. On defense, there's no question I'm leaning towards ND.
 
My 2 copper coins...... Neither LSU or Georgia are that good this year. Kirby is stil trying to remove Richtoids* from the bulldogs and the only thing I've seen that has made LSU decent is they now have a QB that can complete 50% of his passes.

*Richtoid - The dilusion of thinking you are worthy of being in the top 5 rankings year in and year out, just because. Symptoms include swollen head, uncontrollable urges to talk unwarranted smack, whining, dilusions of preseaon grandeur... all symptoms are concluded by a massive brick shitting of a/or more regualr season games, thus deflating the swollen head and clearing all other symptoms. :devil:
 
My 2 copper coins...... Neither LSU or Georgia are that good this year. Kirby is stil trying to remove Richtoids* from the bulldogs and the only thing I've seen that has made LSU decent is they now have a QB that can complete 50% of his passes.

*Richtoid - The dilusion of thinking you are worthy of being in the top 5 rankings year in and year out, just because. Symptoms include swollen head, uncontrollable urges to talk unwarranted smack, whining, dilusions of preseaon grandeur... all symptoms are concluded by a massive brick shitting of a/or more regualr season games, thus deflating the swollen head and clearing all other symptoms. :devil:

They'd lose 90% of their fanbase.
 
But who have they played? LSU would have beaten those teams by that as well, and they have minus the loss at Florida. LSU has played a schedule twenty time more difficult than Georgia.
All of these "ranked opponents" that's the "resume builders" for LSU look like nothing more than part-time jobs now. Hardly a blimp on my radar.

If we take the four main statistical categories from each side of the ball (giving us eight) UGA leads in five of the eight. They are a better team than LSU.

But, as said many a time before this season started, it was only a dream to think UGA could make it through their schedule undefeated. Kirby just Kirby'd that game.

I'm seeing both teams as being worse than they were last year even with LSU having a better W/L record.

Doesn't matter unless you perform and win the game. If you want to ride the Georgia train, that's fine, but I'll take the hungrier team every time and LSU wants it more than Georgia, that's why they kicked their face in. Georgia has looked like a National Championship contender for the last fifteen years or so, but we clearly know how that has ended each and every year. They have had the better team, better athletes, and even some better coaches than all of their competition, but yet they still can't put it together, so excuse me if I just don't buy the "better team" argument. Their statistics are against Austen Peay, Middle Tennessee State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Missouri, Vanderbilt, and Florida. They struggled against Florida, and Florida is a team in transition. Georgia got beat by the only true team they have played. LSU has played teams with MUCH more talent, regardless of record, and won. We cannot sit here and say that Georgia would have beat Washington, Auburn, Mississippi State, Miami, and LSU if they had that schedule in the first eight game. No way any of us can say that for certain when you look at how their season has been.

Some would substitute Bama where you have Georgia....just saying
 
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