🏈 The unintended cost of success - ticket prices and seat relocations

[50+yeartidefan]

They recognize the importance of those fans, but they cannot die at the alter of those fans. College sports is a business and it has to be ran like a business.

Really. How can you say that?
They are catering to the money at the expense of loyal fans!!!!!!!!!
You can run a business without trampling the fans that got you the status with their loyalty
If there are other factors that aren't being shared here. And concessions to the displaced. Then that's how you run a business. Take care of the displaced as a priority

 

[JoshB]

There’s consequences to success in every industry. Same people bitching about this are the same people that would bitch if Bama sucked. Can’t have it both ways

This is the type of mindset that allows this shit to go on. People were still filling that damn stadium up when Shula and DuBose were here, so don't pretend like this is a recent thing. They are pricing out families and moderate-income people. It's honestly the only saving grace of having games against FCS teams. It's probably the only time A LOT of fans will be able to afford a ticket.

 

[JoshB]

They recognize the importance of those fans, but they cannot die at the alter of those fans. College sports is a business and it has to be ran like a business.

Boy, they're really "dying at the alter" here. Absolute freaking nonsense.

Alabama athletics brings in school record $177 million revenue, profits dip

The results of Alabama's financial report filed with the NCAA.

www.al.com

 

[rammerjammer]

I don't think it is just the stadium and the renovation. While trying to make everything more "enjoyable", it has all come with a price. My first few years that I had season tickets I would go down and tailgate with friends and made a day of it. This started in 2002. It is nearly impossible to go down on a Saturday and get a spot on campus tailgate. With the Bruno event team taking over so much of the ancillary "stuff" going on around campus, premium tailgate spots, come with a price. Parking used to be fairly convenient (relatively). Now you can't get close to the stadium for no less than $20 for a crap game, and around $50 for a good game.

It's not just the seats. It's everything associated with game: tickets, food, parking. I try to never eat at the stadium. You have to put the food on lay-a-way.

 

[TerryP]

This is the type of mindset that allows this shit to go on. People were still filling that damn stadium up when Shula and DuBose were here, so don't pretend like this is a recent thing. They are pricing out families and moderate-income people. It's honestly the only saving grace of having games against FCS teams. It's probably the only time A LOT of fans will be able to afford a ticket.

The ability to go to a game has become a luxury item. It's really that simple in my view.

A group of these luxury boxes are estimated to be able to bring in as much as 75 million over a 10 years, I believe.

This is an interesting twist...Tuscaloosa News publishes an article about the improvement expected in season around town. AL.com, not sure which print publication this might go to, publishes one about the stadium and all hell breaks loose.

Tuscaloosa ... infrastructure improvement.
UA and BDS ... ?

 

[ElephantStomp]

Really. How can you say that?
They are catering to the money at the expense of loyal fans!!!!!!!!!
You can run a business without trampling the fans that got you the status with their loyalty
If there are other factors that aren't being shared here. And concessions to the displaced. Then that's how you run a business. Take care of the displaced as a priority

You raise prices when the demand is there. That’s exactly how you run a business

 

[ElephantStomp]

This is the type of mindset that allows this shit to go on. People were still filling that damn stadium up when Shula and DuBose were here, so don't pretend like this is a recent thing. They are pricing out families and moderate-income people. It's honestly the only saving grace of having games against FCS teams. It's probably the only time A LOT of fans will be able to afford a ticket.

Going to a game is a luxury item. I don’t have a Porsche or Lamborghini because my cop salary can’t afford it, so if people can’t afford to go then you simply don’t go or you save up to go....it’s really not that difficult

 

[planomateo]

You raise prices when the demand is there. That’s exactly how you run a business

Not necessarily, it's not that black and white.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Boy, they're really "dying at the alter" here. Absolute freaking nonsense.

Alabama athletics brings in school record $177 million revenue, profits dip

The results of Alabama's financial report filed with the NCAA.

www.al.com

I didn’t say they were dying at the alter I said they can’t. You can think it’s nonsense all you want, but businesses aren’t ran like Bernie Sanders thinks they are where everything is free and/or cheap. If the demand is there then there’s no reason not to raise prices on whatever goods or service you’re selling

 

[planomateo]

I didn’t say they were dying at the alter I said they can’t. You can think it’s nonsense all you want, but businesses aren’t ran like Bernie Sanders thinks they are where everything is free and/or cheap. If the demand is there then there’s no reason not to raise prices on whatever goods or service you’re selling

Familiar with Costco?

 

[ElephantStomp]

Not necessarily, it's not that black and white.

We can differ on opinions.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Familiar with Costco?

They’ve raised prices throughout their history.

 

[JoshB]

The ability to go to a game has become a luxury item. It's really that simple in my view.

A group of these luxury boxes are estimated to be able to bring in as much as 75 million over a 10 years, I believe.

This is an interesting twist...Tuscaloosa News publishes an article about the improvement expected in season around town. AL.com, not sure which print publication this might go to, publishes one about the stadium and all hell breaks loose.

Tuscaloosa ... infrastructure improvement.
UA and BDS ... ?

When has attending a football game NOT been a luxury item? It was a luxury item in 1952 and it's still one in 2019. I have no issue with luxury boxes, do whatever but you should also then try to make OTHER seating options more affordable, too. Giving more people options to attend is certainly not a bad thing, especially in the long run. Eventually Alabama will not be a perennial power again. There will be dry spells, it happens with every program, not matter how huge the dynasty. Turning off non-rich fans during the up swing won't do you any favors in 6-win seasons. But that's not what they're doing. They're adding luxury boxes and then going to raise ticket prices everywhere else, too and probably concessions which already outrageous and parking and gameday merch and everything else.

 

[BamaFan334]

I didn’t say they were dying at the alter I said they can’t. You can think it’s nonsense all you want, but businesses aren’t ran like Bernie Sanders thinks they are where everything is free and/or cheap. If the demand is there then there’s no reason not to raise prices on whatever goods or service you’re selling

What aren't you understanding about the demand not being there? Demand is down all over college football. You see all of the open seats in the stadium the last few years? Costs of Gameday, lackluster opponents and competition, and just the time associated has people not caring anymore about going. As @planomateo said, it's not as black and white as you are trying to play it. Business is supply and demand, but a whole lot of other factors in between there as well. I'm a capitalist, so no Bernie or AOC economics here.

 

[BamaFan334]

They’ve raised prices throughout their history.

It's called inflation, everyone has.

 

[ElephantStomp]

What aren't you understanding about the demand not being there? Demand is down all over college football. You see all of the open seats in the stadium the last few years? Costs of Gameday, lackluster opponents and competition, and just the time associated has people not caring anymore about going. As @planomateo said, it's not as black and white as you are trying to play it. Business is supply and demand, but a whole lot of other factors in between there as well. I'm a capitalist, so no Bernie or AOC economics here.

I can guarantee the school knows the exact economics of their decisions, so supply and demand has to be there or they wouldn’t be making the decisions they’re making.

 

[ElephantStomp]

It's called inflation, everyone has.

No kidding?

 

[BamaFan334]

No kidding?

Just making a point that it's not supply that increases all prices.

 

[BamaFan334]

I can guarantee the school knows the exact economics of their decisions, so supply and demand has to be there or they wouldn’t be making the decisions they’re making.

Hmmmm, wonder why they went so overboard with the Crimson Initiative and marketed Saban starting off the event with a $1M donation. They needed more of what was not there and they knew it beforehand.

Yeah, Florida State (Taggert) and Georgia Tech (Hewitt) probably thought they knew what they were doing economically as well when they made decisions that killed them financially and crippled the program for years to come. Look at Auburn with Gus, bet they thought they made a good economic decision as well with his buyout terms. The people in charge aren't always the best or all knowing.

 

[footballer]

50 to 60 years ago, when a buck was worth almost 3 times what it's worth now, businesses sold more product for less money. But then due to greed, inflation, taxation and government waste, the dollar has declined to next to nothing. Now days, businesses sell less product for as much money as they can get.