🌎 The Pfizer COVID-19 “vaccine” injected into billions of arms was not the same one used in Pfizer’s clinical trials.

[rick4bama]

I'm glad I took the Moderna one!

 

[ElephantStomp]

This all goes back to what I said in the original thread on Covid. No one was fine that took the jab...if you are taking something that hasn't been properly tested and vetted? Ya ain't fine. Coincidentally, how many side effects are we hearing about now-a-day?

If you have an administration that lied left and right and you accepted those lies at face value? Ya ain't fine.

The era displayed the lack of critical thinking to a degree I've never seen. Those that fell into that whole thing...ain't fine. All it took were a few simple questions to see, "this shit doesn't make any sense."

I find it fascinating that a couple of years ago you couldn't get a job in the medical field UNLESS you had the jab. Now, when asked by medical professionals, none of them give a damn. I know this from personal experience.

Well we disagree with the “no one was a fine that took the jab”, that’s just dishonest and hyperbolic. You wouldn’t hear of side effects now that is/was caused by the vax, it’s out of your system in a few weeks unless you’re saying it changed DNA or some shit still would fall under the dishonest/hyperbolic thing.

I assume by administration you mean the first Trump administration since you know they started the vax thing.

You have to get vaccines in the medical field, you might not have to get the covid vax, but you have to get several. I know this from personal experience too

 

[TerryP]

Well we disagree with the “no one was a fine that took the jab”, that’s just dishonest and hyperbolic. You wouldn’t hear of side effects now that is/was caused by the vax, it’s out of your system in a few weeks unless you’re saying it changed DNA or some shit still would fall under the dishonest/hyperbolic thing.

The main reason the B1G cited they weren't going to play sports was the fear of Myocarditis from the vaccine. One of the major side effects cited today is Mycarditis from the vaccine. So, no hyperbole.

We know the clinical trials were a farce. We knew it then, we know it now. If you put a drug in your body and hasn't been properly vetted...ya ain't fine.

You can read through all my posts about C-19 here. I've never once mentioned mRNA.

From day one I also said this. Wash your damn hands and get outside in the sun.

If you'd like to discuss dishonest and hyperbolic...

Let's talk. None of that shit made sense. People were lied to and they bought it.

 

[Rsedge72]

Well we disagree with the “no one was a fine that took the jab”, that’s just dishonest and hyperbolic. You wouldn’t hear of side effects now that is/was caused by the vax, it’s out of your system in a few weeks unless you’re saying it changed DNA or some shit still would fall under the dishonest/hyperbolic thing.

I assume by administration you mean the first Trump administration since you know they started the vax thing.

You have to get vaccines in the medical field, you might not have to get the covid vax, but you have to get several. I know this from personal experience too

The mRNA shots are active in your system 6 months. They never completely leave your body. Spike proteins do not just leave your body.
The heavy metals in the others don’t leave your system either. I know these metals are needed for some of these vaccines but they do not leave your system in a couple weeks.

 

[ElephantStomp]

The main reason the B1G cited they weren't going to play sports was the fear of Myocarditis from the vaccine. One of the major side effects cited today is Mycarditis from the vaccine. So, no hyperbole.

We know the clinical trials were a farce. We knew it then, we know it now. If you put a drug in your body and hasn't been properly vetted...ya ain't fine.

You can read through all my posts about C-19 here. I've never once mentioned mRNA.

From day one I also said this. Wash your damn hands and get outside in the sun.

If you'd like to discuss dishonest and hyperbolic...

Let's talk. None of that shit made sense. People were lied to and they bought it.

Myocarditis with the vaccine was minimal, that’s a fact. This isn’t political to me, but it falls on political lines on who believed in the vaccine and who believed in a damn horse dewormer. I didn’t get the vaccine for a year after it was released because I wanted to study it and study it and study it and study it I did, I read EVERY paper on it from scientists both “left” and “right”.

It was properly vetted. The studies (outside of a few by people that shit to gain by selling their bullshit “natural remedies” showed it was safe.

I’m all for discussing dishonest and hyperbole. But, between scientists not between politicians.

People weren’t lied to. What happened is the right decided they didn’t like it and there was tons of bullshit posted that people on that side bought hook, line, and sinker

 

[TerryP]

Myocarditis with the vaccine was minimal, that’s a fact. This isn’t political to me, but it falls on political lines on who believed in the vaccine and who believed in a damn horse dewormer

There is no truth to be found in this statement. You have been duped and you are still swallowing it hook, line, and sinker. It is close to comparing Kingsford charcoal to that which is used for medical emergencies in drug overdoses and the like.

You know damn well (as an example) Joe Rogan wasn't taking a horse de-wormer. For you to continue to espouse and outright lie like this is perplexing. The medical benefits of hydroxychloroquine are indisputable. The narrative people were taking a "horse de-wormer" is indistinguishable when compared to a pile of horse shit.

It was properly vetted. The studies (outside of a few by people that shit to gain by selling their bullshit “natural remedies” showed it was safe.

No. It was not.

"Emergency use" bypasses set protocols. The Pfizer-BioNTech was based on manufacturing data, not clinical trials. That same vaccine is no longer approved for use by the FDA.

Again, I state. If you are allowing a medicine to be put in your body without in-human trials, "ya ain't fine."

People weren’t lied to.

If you take the vaccine you won't catch Covid. If you take the vaccine, you won't pass Covid. Those are blatant lies. It's imperative you stay "six feet apart" when we find out it was an arbitrary number based on nothing. Just for the hell of it..I'll call that gaslighting instead of lying.

I don't feel it's a political thing with me. Although, I have to say, some of the biggest faux pas we saw came from one side of the aisle: Cuomo would be a good one to cite as an example.

It's in the common sense, critical thinking arena.

 

[ElephantStomp]

There is no truth to be found in this statement. You have been duped and you are still swallowing it hook, line, and sinker. It is close to comparing Kingsford charcoal to that which is used for medical emergencies in drug overdoses and the like.

You know damn well (as an example) Joe Rogan wasn't taking a horse de-wormer. For you to continue to espouse and outright lie like this is perplexing. The medical benefits of hydroxychloroquine are indisputable. The narrative people were taking a "horse de-wormer" is indistinguishable when compared to a pile of horse shit.


No. It was not.

"Emergency use" bypasses set protocols. The Pfizer-BioNTech was based on manufacturing data, not clinical trials. That same vaccine is no longer approved for use by the FDA.

Again, I state. If you are allowing a medicine to be put in your body without in-human trials, "ya ain't fine."

If you take the vaccine you won't catch Covid. If you take the vaccine, you won't pass Covid. Those are blatant lies. It's imperative you stay "six feet apart" when we find out it was an arbitrary number based on nothing. Just for the hell of it..I'll call that gaslighting instead of lying.

I don't feel it's a political thing with me. Although, I have to say, some of the biggest faux pas we saw came from one side of the aisle: Cuomo would be a good one to cite as an example.

It's in the common sense, critical thinking arena.

The studies did in fact show it was safe, the people saying otherwise just simply don’t know how to read medical research papers plain and simple.

People were in fact putting dewormer into their bodies, maybe not Joe Rogan, but millions upon millions of people were, Murdoch’s where I used to live had to lock it up and approve the purchase because people were buying it and the place was selling out of it, so yes people were using the actual horse medication, hence why a statement had to be made that horse dewormer doesn’t work and wouldn’t work.

You want to talk common sense and critical thinking while espousing the bs you’re espousing. You say lies, but common sense and critical thinking aren’t being used, it was a new virus and it was a learning as we go and having to adapt as things went, that’s a simple case of using common sense and critical thinking.

The only part that’s political to me is one side was attacking and harassing healthcare workers. It was only one side that pitched a two year idiotic fit about wearing a mask, it was only one side that was taking dewormer, it was only one side that turned healthcare workers and scientists into enemies based a lack of common sense and critical thinking or thinking of any measure.

 

[TerryP]

People were in fact putting dewormer into their bodies, maybe not Joe Rogan, but millions upon millions of people were,

Dude. This is bullshit. You know it's bullshit.

 

[TerryP]

You want to talk common sense and critical thinking while espousing the bs you’re espousing. You say lies, but common sense and critical thinking aren’t being used, it was a new virus and it was a learning as we go and having to adapt as things went, that’s a simple case of using common sense and critical thinking.

As stated, using an untested drug is neither using common sense or exercising critical thinking.

The whole country was lied to spearheaded by Fauci. It's all good...he's been pardoned for all his bullshit.

I do find it ironic the "man of two masks" has so many faces.

 

[ElephantStomp]

As stated, using an untested drug is neither using common sense or exercising critical thinking.

The whole country was lied to spearheaded by Fauci. It's all good...he's been pardoned for all his bullshit.

I do find it ironic the "man of two masks" has so many faces.

Thankfully Fauci was pardoned

 

[ElephantStomp]

Dude. This is bullshit. You know it's bullshit.

Alabama Extension and Auburn health experts: Ivermectin for animals not safe for people

Farm supply and feed stores cannot keep a livestock deworming medication on the shelves because social media posts are calling it a cure for COVID-19. A veterinarian with the Alabama Cooperative Extension System warns that people should not buy animal ivermectin products to self-medicate.

ocm.auburn.edu

Jesus man it really is pretty simple to find this out yourself before typing…..I promise it’s very easy

 

[TerryP]

Alabama Extension and Auburn health experts: Ivermectin for animals not safe for people

Farm supply and feed stores cannot keep a livestock deworming medication on the shelves because social media posts are calling it a cure for COVID-19. A veterinarian with the Alabama Cooperative Extension System warns that people should not buy animal ivermectin products to self-medicate.

ocm.auburn.edu

Jesus man it really is pretty simple to find this out yourself before typing…..I promise it’s very easy

It's so ironic in one breath you use the word "hyperbolic" and then in another breath say "millions and millions." That's bullshit, and you know it.

I'm well aware there were concerns and some idiots. I'm also well aware of how hyperbolic the main stream media was during this time.

Thankfully Fauci was pardoned

Obama: Don't do this.
Fauci: We'll just do it in China.
Stomp: Thankfully ...

 

[ElephantStomp]

It's so ironic in one breath you use the word "hyperbolic" and then in another breath say "millions and millions." That's bullshit, and you know it.

I'm well aware there were concerns and some idiots. I'm also well aware of how hyperbolic the main stream media was during this time.


Obama: Don't do this.
Fauci: We'll just do it in China.
Stomp: Thankfully ...

I am thankful he was pardoned because the right wanted to crucify him based on them not knowing shit about science.

 

[TerryP]

I am thankful he was pardoned because the right wanted to crucify him based on them not knowing shit about science.

Would this be...hyperbole?

This is where I laugh. Here's a guy preaching wear a mask, preaching wear two, then appears at a ball game not wearing one. Now, as I'm reading "not knowing shit about science" when we know the very masks he was demanding don't do a damn thing?

Think about it...

Lied to the American people
Lied to Congress
Circumvented a presidential order.
Instrumental in forcing the lock down of people's lives.
...all the while likely making a fortune (alleged.)

And some people want him prosecuted.

 

[footballer]

The auto pen was likely manipulated by someone other than Biden. Was he even in town when some of those pardons were signed?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I am thankful he was pardoned because the right wanted to crucify him based on them not knowing shit about science.

I never fully understood the patents and personal licensing that enriched government employees like Fauci. You're either a government employee or you're not. The dual role is foreign to me. When I was a bank regulator, I couldn't go and do consulting for a bank and earn money. I couldn't even borrow from a bank due to the conflict of interest in regulating it. I borrowed from a credit union (NCUA insured, not FDIC). As an executive, I was required to submit filings for any external activity, and to report on my wife's work. My ethics submissions were reviewed extensively, and I was questioned on any issue that wasn't clear. I was well compensated during my 38 years with FDIC, and in my role I believe I was able to advance the pubic interest by fostering public confidence in the banking system; being a good steward of the DIF (Deposit Insurance Fund), which is funded by banks, not taxpayers; identifying outlier banks exhibiting an outsized risk to the DIF and taking the necessary steps to either return them to a safe and sound condition or close and sell them; and finally, addressing civil and criminal violations of law by individual bankers and, as necessary, banning them from the banking industry for life. I was never asked to reinstate any dead bankers, I might add.

Even now, as a fiscal conservative, I'm not perturbed by the likely changes in my pension. If the FERS amendment passes under reconciliation, my pension will decline $35,000 in 2026 and 2027. I have saved for over thirty years to be secure in my retirement, and I am. If my reduced pension helps reduce spending by $51 billion over the next ten years, it's a drop in the bucket, but it's a start, and one I accept without rancor.

RTR,

Tim

 

[ElephantStomp]

Would this be...hyperbole?

This is where I laugh. Here's a guy preaching wear a mask, preaching wear two, then appears at a ball game not wearing one. Now, as I'm reading "not knowing shit about science" when we know the very masks he was demanding don't do a damn thing?

Think about it...

Lied to the American people
Lied to Congress
Circumvented a presidential order.
Instrumental in forcing the lock down of people's lives.
...all the while likely making a fortune (alleged.)

And some people want him prosecuted.

He didn’t lie. Science is ever changing, which leads to things changing, that’s the entire thing about science. I can tell you that what we know now in terms of cancer is much much different than what we knew five years because of research which leads to learning.

From the very start a part of the population with a certain political perspective whined and cried about masks. From a law enforcement standpoint the two busiest times for me in the almost decade I worked at the agency I did was during covid and the BLM protests, but one was a lot of violence and anger and one wasn’t, but still real busy, but I bet you can’t guess which was the more violent.

The same people that wanted him prosecuted think the 34 felonies were a witch hunt, so you’ll have to excuse me if I find it funny

 

[TerryP]

He didn’t lie.

NIH funding.

 

[TerryP]

The same people that wanted him prosecuted think the 34 felonies were a witch hunt, so you’ll have to excuse me if I find it funny

You are a Seminole fan, doing the tomahawk chop, and haven't won a game yet. Geez, man. Don't dig yourself in a hole here.

 

[ElephantStomp]

You are a Seminole fan, doing the tomahawk chop, and haven't won a game yet. Geez, man. Don't dig yourself in a hole here.

You can say whatever you want, but the only people wanting him prosecuted are the same that believe the 34 time convicted felonies were a witch hunt. Also, the same ones that agree that judges should have less power over what this administration is doing