🏈 The continuing saga of Johnathan Taylor

I too didn't agree with the decision to bring Taylor into the fold, BUT I gave Coach Saban and his staff the benefit of the doubt, because I knew they had all of the facts pertaining to Taylor and his tenure at UGA. With that said, it still blew up in Saban's face. Taylor was offered the chance to straighten up and continue his pursuit of playing in the NFL. Now his pursuit will be getting out of prison for good behavior.
 
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!! Rough weekend for 'Bama ..

How can folks just throw away chances like this? Saban gave him everything .. a fresh start .. a chance to get on the right track. He defended him against a ton of criticism. And he just threw it all away. He will regret that one day .. For now, I hope he gets his life straight and stops hurting others!
 
@TheChief, I remember exactly what happened. @Rolltide24 was implying that we took Douglas off of UTs hands because UT kicked him out for drugs. I simply corrected his assumption. I know it ended badly with Douglas dying of a drug overdose.

@uagrad93 I really meant to add to what you said (in a better way than I did) not be derogatory to you. I sort of thought you remembered too. Sorry about that.
 
Perhaps he could have said it a bit more diplomatically, but diplomacy is not his long suit. He cut to the essentials very quickly. Taylor was offered a second chance, but was on a very short leash. Taylor messed up, and now he is gone. He was given every chance to succeed, received professional counseling help, yet still blew it. In spite of all the widespread opinions offered in the news conference, the U of A knew what it was getting into. This was not just CNS's decision. The AD approved it, as did the administration of our favorite school.

It boils down to whether you give a player with bad past history a second chance, hoping to help him,even as he helps your team. Pettway took advantage of the opportunity, Taylor did not. Going forward, will this mean that we change how we make these decisions... I confess that I don't know.
 
So is a scholarship wasted on that dipshit? Can we allow the greyshirt to come in now? Sucks we have a greyshirt that took one for the team, and then we have dumbass Taylor eating up a scholarship and can't stay on campus for three whole months.
 
What I can't understand is why is the media after CNS to apologize? It seems to me Taylor is the one who owes everyone an apology. From what I know about the situation the "system" in place did it's job to help him. Taylor is the one who didn't do his job.
 
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http://espn.go.com/college-football...an-taylor-situation-very-sorry-way-worked-out

Nick Saban: Not sorry for opportunity

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Alabama coach Nick Saban would not apologize for signing Jonathan Taylor, but he did say Monday that he was "very, very sorry for the way this worked out."

Saban, athletic director Bill Battle and the Alabama administration gave Taylor what they called a "second chance" in January, a year after he was dismissed by Georgia following an arrest for felony aggravated assault and family violence. On Saturday night, the 6-foot-4, 335-pound defensive lineman was arrested again on a domestic violence charge. He was dismissed on Sunday.

"I'm not sorry for giving him an opportunity. I'm sorry for the way things worked out," Saban told reporters in Tuscaloosa. "I'm not apologizing for the opportunity that we gave him. I wanted to try to help the guy make it work. It didn't work. So we're sorry that it didn't work and we're sorry there was an incident and we're sorry for the people that were involved in the incident. But we're not apologizing for what we did, and we're going to continue to create opportunities for people in the future and we'll very, very closely evaluate anyone's character that we allow in the program."

Taylor, 21, is charged with domestic violence third-degree assault and domestic violence third-degree criminal mischief in Tuscaloosa.

According to an incident report, Tuscaloosa Police Department officers responded to a call near the Alabama campus to speak with a woman who told police she was assaulted by her boyfriend. The 24-year-old victim had "minor injuries to her neck from the assault." Officers also noticed a bedroom door that had a "hole punched in it."

Taylor, who spent a year at a junior college before enrolling at Alabama, still faces a trial in Athens, Georgia, on two felony counts of aggravated assault. Three months before that alleged altercation with his girlfriend, he was one of four Georgia players arrested on misdemeanor charges of theft by deception for allegedly double-cashing meal-reimbursement checks from the athletic department.

Taylor was not involved in any known police incidents at the Wesson, Mississippi, junior college he was enrolled at, Copiah-Lincoln Community College, ESPN has confirmed.

Saban, who said "it's not always going to work out" giving players second chances, argued in favor of his decision to sign Taylor. At times defensive, he tried to emphasize the success stories he's had with troubled athletes and turn the attention to the other players on the roster who have not run afoul of the law.

"He did everything we asked him to do here," Saban said of Taylor. "He had a lot of psychological profiling, a lot of psychological counseling. He never missed a session. He did everything he was supposed to do. We're sorry there was an incident. We levied the consequences. I think that's all there is to talk about when it comes to that. We have 125 other players on our team that are doing really well. There's really nothing else to talk about. Jonathan Taylor came here, we gave him an opportunity, it didn't work out, he failed, we're sorry, it's time to move on."

Battle said in a statement that: "Violent conduct by any representative of the University of Alabama athletics department will not be tolerated."

"I believe in second chances. I still do," he wrote Sunday. "However, being successful in that second chance requires responsibility and accountability. In Jonathan's situation, the University and the Department of Athletics set forth very clear standards of accountability and expectations of conduct. Jonathan was afforded a chance to successfully overcome the difficulties that resulted in his departure from the University of Georgia. Unfortunately, it appears that he was unable to do so, in spite of extensive efforts to assist him."

Saban said that despite what's happened with Taylor, he hopes he can help him in the future.

"I still think he's a good person," he said. "I think he has a problem and a circumstance and a situation that is not acceptable, and that is his problem. And he has been certainly dealt with relative to this problem."

As far as the punishment facing defensive back Geno Smith, who was arrested and charged with his second DUI this past weekend, Saban said he gave "no consideration" to dismissing him and that he would be dealt with in-house.

Citing his dealings with his children, Saban cautioned not to "throw them out with the bathwater every time they do something wrong."

"This is a second for him," he added. "There are a series of things he has to do, internally, which will be inpatient and outpatient to help him get better. We have a series of counseling things we're going to do to help him with psychological disposition so he can be more positive and not need to do things like this. So we're trying to help the person. And when we feel like we've helped them enough that he can get back on the field, then we'll do that."
 
Had a former player of mine tell me that word is, Taylor was set up. All water under the bridge now, but DAMN the kid should've known to leave any situation rather than react.
 
Had a former player of mine tell me that word is, Taylor was set up. All water under the bridge now, but DAMN the kid should've known to leave any situation rather than react.

Unfortunately, that's not unusual.

I know. It's not unusual for victims to recant their statements.

I don't know how often those who press charges in situations like this are charged with falsifying police reports. That seems to be what's happened here based on a few threads I noticed over on TI this morning. I don't know how factual they are. If she did indeed lie to the police about what happened it's pretty easy to see how it'll play out.
You won't see much, if any, mention of it in the press. You will see people assuming/posturing that she was pressured into recanting her story.

All of this stinks to high heaven no matter which breeze you're facing.
 
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