🏈 Tennessee is hiring UCF’s Josh Heupel as its next head football coach,

[mando]

Program is crippled. That contract basically says so and admits that the HC will be starting lame from day one. Kirby and Mullen (not that they don’t already) will beat the living hell out of them with negative recruiting. The low is about to get lower

Just breaks my heart .

 

[mando]

Heupel looks like a Fulmer clone with regards to his physique. The donut shops around Knoxville are about to rake in some cash.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Yes, on all accounts sans the "stirring." Does he hit nerves? NO doubt. He's inflamed some of the national media with his "Coronabros" theme. However, I have to say. A good majority of the time he's pointing out hypocrisy that exists.

Like Paul, I'm not a big fan of his content. And like Paul, he's done a hell of a job with his brand. He's a success story like him or not.

Stirring may not be a fair description, but he definitely likes to create controversy at times in an attempt to build his brand. I do think his outlet at Outkick has a place (even if it's not for me), and you're right, they are really good at highlighting the hypocrisy that exists throughout the sports world. I'm 100% on board with that, if for no reason than it pisses off folks like Richard Deitsch.

 

[TerryP]

if for no reason than it pisses off folks like Richard Deitsch

Mic drop

 

[rick4bama]

White was upset about the name of the new coach getting out! Welcome to the SEC!

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

I keep coming back to this thread. Not for new info but because it is like a joke that gets funnier each time I hear it

From Kiffin to Heupel An Epic Journey of Epic Failure. Like something written by an inbred meth addict Tolkien

 

[TerryP]

Check out this paragraph from The Athletic on UT's hire.

Instead, we’ve got UCF North. Or North UCF? How about UCF-Knoxville? A slight rearranging of the letters in UCFK creates the exact word a large percentage of the Tennessee fan base said when Heupel’s hire became public, and exactly what zero percent of fans of other SEC teams said.

 

[18Champs]

Maybe he can, maybe he can't


When you are Tennessee in its current state, you make a Maybe Hire.

Maybe it works out. Maybe it doesn’t. You can have hope, but no certainty. You’re in no position to lure a surefire, A-list candidate to lead your dilapidated football program—new athletic director Danny White tried that in the past few days, and it didn’t work out. So you keep working down the list—from proven to splashy to maybe—until you get a yes.

It can be a great job, on paper in the top half of the Southeastern Conference and with the potential to compete for league and national titles. But at the moment it is an iffy job, fraught with peril and clouded by the unknown, with a fan base that could politely be characterized as volatile. That reduces the viable candidate pool to Maybes, and White chose a familiar Maybe.

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For many Tennessee fans, the Heupel hire is the next step in coming to grips with what the program is. They’ve ignored a dozen years of evidence that the Vols are just another program—instead believing in Santa Gruden, and believing that hiring coaches like Greg Schiano and Dave Doeren was beneath them. Fact is, this is a tough sell at present.

James Franklin wasn’t leaving the job security of Penn State for Tennessee, no matter how much money White was rumored to be offering. P.J. Fleck? Please. SMU coach Sonny Dykes isn’t leaving the state of Texas for a struggling program that has to battle Alabama, Georgia and Florida every season. And offensive coordinator Tony Elliott wasn’t going to depart the rock-solid reliability of Clemson for Rocky Top.

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Since Phillip Fulmer’s last good season, in 2007, this is what Tennessee football has been: a losing program (78–82 overall, 36–70 in the SEC, zero East Division titles); a program in constant transition (Heupel is the sixth permanent head coach); and now a program immersed in a self-acknowledged major NCAA investigation that has months (perhaps years) left to unspool.

From ’08 to ’20, the Vols’ SEC winning percentage was .339. The only East Division programs lower than that are Kentucky and Vanderbilt. South Carolina (.481) and Missouri (.473 since joining the league in ’12) are well ahead of Tennessee.

The records against the teams the Vols used to battle in the East are frightful: Florida has won 15 of its last 16 against Tennessee; Georgia has won nine of its last 11. And the annual crossover rivalry against Alabama is a recurring nightmare—the Crimson Tide have won 14 straight. Ever since Bama nose tackle Terrence Cody blocked a last-second field goal for the win in ’09, Lane Kiffin’s only season at UT, the fates of the two programs have been drastically divergent.

Alabama is winning national titles. Tennessee leads the nation in dysfunction.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

At some point Niedermeyer is going to tell his side of the story. UT boosters had to be supplying him the money to give to recruits and the question is how many other than Niedermeyer were part of the scheme. Who will fund Niedermeyer going forward? Doubtful he can even get a HS job at this point.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

At some point Niedermeyer is going to tell his side of the story. UT boosters had to be supplying him the money to give to recruits and the question is how many other than Niedermeyer were part of the scheme. Who will fund Niedermeyer going forward? Doubtful he can even get a HS job at this point.

one big point is....

The ncaa stuff doesnt have an ending point....this stuff ...the pre stuff...the speculation...the investigation.....the negative recruiting....the players leaving...
Is all now....like awaiting trial....to find out sentence

and then the sanctions...evenif they are light or none...the damages are done...but if they are 1-2 years..reduced schollys...bowls...

Then...you play with a light roster....for years and years....

Then you have 3 potential top 5 programs to play annually...

I remember when the headlines were...."bama is bowl eligible.".. and that would be late in season... and be excited about Independence or music City bowl .....

Bad time are awaiting...Vols...bad bad TIMES
..

 

[mando]

Bad time are awaiting...Vols...bad bad TIMES
..

Have I mentioned this just makes me tear up . A program with a solid foundation would struggle. One that already has huge cracks in the foundation is in trouble big time. May have to bulldoze it down so to speak and start over. I am sure White and Heupel are more than qualified to fix it lol.

 

[BamaFan615]

I’ll be interested to see what happens with JP’s buyout. I can’t recall exactly how much it was for, but it was steep. $13M, maybe?

Right now UT’s saying they’re not paying it, but I’d imagine there will be some sort of a settlement...neither side is going to want to take that to court - especially the University.

 

[OldPlayer]

I’ll be interested to see what happens with JP’s buyout. I can’t recall exactly how much it was for, but it was steep. $13M, maybe?

Right now UT’s saying they’re not paying it, but I’d imagine there will be some sort of a settlement...neither side is going to want to take that to court - especially the University.

If he was fired for cause (meaning he specifically violated 1+ clauses in his contract), he gets nothing. The school may negotiate a small payout to keep him quiet, but his taking a role with the Giants lessens the chance of that. He'll still be bound by the terms of the original contract about speaking negatively about UT.

I've heard that multiple incidents of recruiting violations occurred, so it will be tough to fight it. Any penalties received by the NCAA will make it worse.

 

[mando]

Hope Pruitt does get cleared and he tells it all about the Viles!!!! The are a sickening bunch and deserve all the misery they get.

 

[BamaFan615]

I was thinking it was said that Pruitt had lawyered up? Is that correct or am I thinking wrong?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I was thinking it was said that Pruitt had lawyered up? Is that correct or am I thinking wrong?

I believe that's the case. I presume he's readying a lawsuit for wrongful termination, or threatening to do so to salvage a portion of his buyout.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Hope Pruitt does get cleared and he tells it all about the Viles!!!! The are a sickening bunch and deserve all the misery they get.

Heck yeah. I hope they pin some shit on ole phatphil too....
His distain for bama....his downfall...his thought and actions to get revenge....for whatever....
I still believe he hired JP with thought it would hurt bama for the NC game....
if its true...that makes all even better

 

[OldPlayer]

It's going to be a while for Tennessee
Tennessee the only loser on National Signing Day

 

[mando]

It's going to be a while for Tennessee
Tennessee the only loser on National Signing Day

The Viles are a Vile bunch. Dig the hole, put the coffin in and nail it shut then pour concrete over it. I thought our dark days were bad but it was nothing like this.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

The Viles are a Vile bunch. Dig the hole, put the coffin in and nail it shut then pour concrete over it. I thought our dark days were bad but it was nothing like this.

@OldPlayer
I remember what Nick saidwhen he came to bama....we will honor all offers...but you shop, we shop...or something like that...