🏈 So, regarding the appeal..............

[Bamaforlife]

In your opinion......Good thing ?? Bad thing??

I see both sides- On the one side, 3 years is excessive, as is the vacating of all those wins from 2005-2007, and if either, or both of thse penalties could be reduced, I think it would be a huge plus.

On the other side, I can see the point of those that feel anything that may further tick off the NCAA and bring them back down on us harder in the future is never going to be to our advantage.

What are the board's opinions?? Thanks.

BFL. :a: :a: :a: :a:

 

[Nothing_But_A_Winner00]

I'd like to just move forward with no appeal. But, if there is anyway of reducing the amount of years of probation I'm all for it.

 

[Duder]

In your opinion......Good thing ?? Bad thing??

I see both sides- On the one side, 3 years is excessive, as is the vacating of all those wins from 2005-2007, and if either, or both of thse penalties could be reduced, I think it would be a huge plus.

On the other side, I can see the point of those that feel anything that may further tick off the NCAA and bring them back down on us harder in the future is never going to be to our advantage.

What are the board's opinions?? Thanks.

BFL. :a: :a: :a: :a:

I don't think it will hurt Bama at all to appeal. I'm pretty sure the NCAA has enough of a problem with the university as it is. If there is another violation during the probation period it'll get ugly anyway (no, I do not believe the death penalty will ever truly be considered).

Keep in mind the last time the NCAA put Bama on sanctions they warned them they were staring down the barrel of a gun and they had considered the death penalty, blah blah blah. While the three year probation and losing three years worth of wins is nothing to scoff at, it isn't anywhere near as damning as scholarship loss, post season ban, etc.

Given what happened with OU and what may happen with FSU, I think Bama may get the wins back but the probation window probably isn't going anywhere.

I agree with Nothing_but though, it may be best to just pick up and move on so there isn't any distraction to the team. If everyone's nose is kept clean this is nothing any of the kids on the team now really have to worry about. You guys will be fine.

 

[rolltide1969]

The ncaa always comes down hard on Bama, so I don't see why we should not appeal. We may actually get some of the penalties reduced. Maybe in the future they will be more fair-minded if they know that Bama is going to fight and appeal them every step of the way......

 

[bamabarney]

Never hurts to try, they shouldn't tack on any more penalities for appealing. If Bama can kept it clean for a while ( and I hope we do), we shouldn't have to worry about the NCAA anymore.

 

[shipley00]

If Alabama handles it in the correct way, they won't tick off the NCAA. The system is set up so that Universities can appeal. They all but expect an appeal. I feel that if the NCAA were still out for blood, there would have been scholarships lost. The day you stop trying to protect your university from what you perceive to be an injustice, then you'd better start worrying.

Warning: Dead horse about to be kicked!


If they University had appealed the 98 incindent where the boosters turned in the basketball coach, and the University fired him and self reported, (and recieved a ridculous probably period for it!) they Alabama wouldn't have been in the "probation" window for the big fiasco... I'll stop there.

 

[Bamadrill]

I say take out the NCAA with a well planned all out assault.

 

[Bo]

I think it's a waste of time personally. IMO, the "vacating of wins" is meaningless. As far getting a year knocked off the probation period, from my understanding, Alabama will be in a 5 year repeat offender window if whether the probation is 1 year or 3 years. So what difference does it make if they take it down from 3 to 2 years probation?

 

[reger60]

I'd like to see the probation time reduced, but I don't see the NCAA backing down from that. Reducing it by a year would send a message that basically says, "Okay, y'all can't cheat for the next two years, but after that, it's okay -- unless we catch ya."

Probation is what it is.

The wins? Who cares. We all know who won those games.

Take that out of the equation and you've got the University spending about $500,000 in legal fees over a $40,000 fine.

 

[Bamadrill]

Take that out of the equation and you've got the University spending about $500,000 in legal fees over a $40,000 fine.

Makes sense doesn't it?

 

[kc]

The extended probation for the football program is the only part that bothers me. I could care less about losing the past wins...

NCAA has too many nick picking rules anyway. The school, fans etc are being punished because of overpriced text books.

 

[shipley00]

Take that out of the equation and you've got the University spending about $500,000 in legal fees over a $40,000 fine.

Point well taken. On the flip side, the University tried the "non-appeal" deal in 98, bent over during the Means investigation, and it was too late to mount a defense in the end. Point being, maybe if we take every allegation this seriously, there won't be a such a NCAA fiasco should something happen in the future.

 

[psychojoe]

In the meantime we need a "compliance nerd" in the athletic department to ride herd on all the nit picking details.