🏈 RE: BCSNC and teams left out that are undefeated—Saying "it's not OSU's fault the B1G is down" gross

[TerryP]

The closer we are to the end of December the larger the odds are becoming for OSU to slip in to the BCSNC game. The last time I looked the Bovada has them listed at 6-1. The numbers—IE: percentage chance—are getting better for them to be undefeated and yet are continuing to get worse...going into last weekend there was roughly a 25% chance they'd make it to the title game.

I'm sure you've seen, countless times at that, people mentioning their schedule and those same people have been quick to point out "it's not Ohio State's fault the B1G is down."

That's true. In the end it still doesn't tell the whole story.

Next season this scenario wouldn't be a big deal. The Buckeyes would be looking at a game with FSU for their title shot.

This season wouldn't have been a big deal either except for the following: Jim Delany, Gordon Gee, Graham Spanier, and Harvey Perlman.

I've seen one person point to this group of four (they weren't alone, but definitely the main voices leading the charge against) with the reminder these were the last group of decision makers that were standing staunchly against the playoff being instituted.

It's going to happen...the only question is how much air play it gets and how loudly we hear B1G members complain; "it's not fair!"

The point which needs to be mentioned, frequently, is your own administration put you in this position.

As the BCS era closes out one thing will stand true; it worked—again.

 

[BamaFan615]

As the BCS era closes out one thing will stand true; it worked—again.

Very good point Terry.

 

[mhardiman]

Originally Posted by TerryP As the BCS era closes out one thing will stand true; it worked—again.

Very good point Terry.

Very true; all the playoff system is going to do (especially if it goes to eight or sixteen teams) is allow a chance for a team to play for a National Championship that doesn't deserve being there much like you get in the NFL Playoffs or the NCAA basketball tournament.

 

[MissingRing]

You can't do more than win all of your games. That will be the crux of Ohio State's complaint if they win out and still miss the BCSNCG. That was our complaint in 1966. There never has been a perfect system for choosing a college football national champion. The playoff system will mitigate that situation to some degree.

 

[TerryP]

You can't do more than win all of your games. That will be the crux of Ohio State's complaint if they win out and still miss the BCSNCG. That was our complaint in 1966. There never has been a perfect system for choosing a college football national champion. The playoff system will mitigate that situation to some degree.

I agree with this to an extent.

I don't agree with your comparison between 1966 and what may happen with OSU this season. As a conference the SEC wasn't standing against a monumental change like those "powers that be" have done in the B1G.

If we just take one of those mentioned, Gordon Gee, we've witnessed how he felt OSU was bigger than the game itself and the NCAA. I believe the same can be said for Delany...something we've seen on several occasions right up until the point the playoff was instituted. It's arguable he's still of that position.

 

[musso]

Very good point Terry.

I'm having a hard time with the popular narrative that FSU is more deserving than Ohio St to play for the national title. Won't Ohio St's schedule eventually be more impressive than FSU's?

 

[riz]

Remember when the OSU administration decided to play in the Sugar Bowl instead of self imposing?

 

[TerryP]

I'm having a hard time with the popular narrative that FSU is more deserving than Ohio St to play for the national title. Won't Ohio St's schedule eventually be more impressive than FSU's?

Remember when the OSU administration decided to play in the Sugar Bowl instead of self imposing?

That's one of the examples from the beginning of their unveiling.

 

[BamaFan615]

I'm having a hard time with the popular narrative that FSU is more deserving than Ohio St to play for the national title. Won't Ohio St's schedule eventually be more impressive than FSU's?

There is certainly an argument to be made that Ohio State is just as deserving as FSU. When you compare the two schedules thus far, I'd say they're pretty even.

FSU going to Clemson and dominating them is certainly a game that FSU can hang their hat on.

Ohio State most impressive win? I'd say it's Northwestern - a game they won by 10 points.

Just my opinion, but I think FSU had the tougher schedule. I'll admit, both teams played an extremely soft schedule. But, the difference to me is how FSU handled their schedule, and how Ohio State handled their schedule. FSU took care of business early and often...Ohio State struggled from time to time with inferior competition.

 

[musso]

wait, i misread you terry. i now see that you said OSU is becoming a likelier participant in the BCS title game. i thought you were saying just the opposite. i was confused.

fwiw, i'd take quality wins over Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Michigan St over Maryland, Clemson, and Miami.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

I don't think OSU is going to beat Mich State. Their defense is the real deal & they know how to run the ball. I think MSU is going to stomp them into the ground.

 

[TerryP]

wait, i misread you terry. i now see that you said OSU is becoming a likelier participant in the BCS title game. i thought you were saying just the opposite. i was confused.

fwiw, i'd take quality wins over Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Michigan St over Maryland, Clemson, and Miami.

How can a win over Northwestern be considered a quality win?

While Maryland has only won two conference games this season that's twice as many as NW.

 

[JoshB]

OSU's biggest friend is Michigan State if they keep winning, as long as they beat Michigan and MSU.