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LSU’s second-quarter touchdown that gave it a 13-point lead was a controversial one. Three plays before the score, a 16-yard completion from Joe Burrow to Thaddeus Moss put the Tigers on the 1-yard line. A replay showed Moss stepped out of bounds before getting both feet back in bounds and...

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LSU’s second-quarter touchdown that gave it a 13-point lead was a controversial one.

Three plays before the score, a 16-yard completion from Joe Burrow to Thaddeus Moss put the Tigers on the 1-yard line. A replay showed Moss stepped out of bounds before getting both feet back in bounds and making the catch, but the call on the field of a catch was confirmed.

Later, the SEC released through its @SECOfficiating Twitter account the following: “In #LSUvsBama, if a receiver is forced out of bounds due to contact by a defender, the receiver can re-establish position on the field and make a legal catch. On the play in question, the ruling on the field was the receiver was forced out of bounds by contact.

“By rule, if there is contact between the defender and the receiver, whether or not a player was forced out of bounds is not reviewable. Replay confirmed the receiver reestablished himself and completed the catch.”

Trevon Diggs was defending Moss on the catch.

Opening surge

The touchdown and field goal that put LSU up by 10 in the first 10 minutes of the game was historic in more ways than one.

It was LSU’s first touchdown against Alabama since 2017, given the shutout last season, and it was the Tigers’ first lead against UA since 2014. It was LSU’s first two-possession lead since 2010 and its largest lead in Tuscaloosa since 2007, Saban’s first season at the helm.

It was also the first time UA has trailed by double digits at home since the 2015 loss to Ole Miss.

First of the year

Jaylen Waddle returned his first punt for a touchdown this season. The sophomore fielded a punt inside the 20-yard line and appeared to have his face mask grabbed by an LSU defender. Waddle managed to break loose and sprinted toward the edge where Alabama formed a wall. He followed behind it and went untouched for a 77-yard touchdown.

Waddle returned one punt for a touchdown last year, a 63-yard against the University of Louisiana.

Using his legs, too

While LSU quarterback Joe Burrow stole the show with his arm throwing for 393 yards on 31-for-39 passing and three touchdowns, it was his legs that perhaps made more damage to Alabama’s chances throughout the game. Burrow rushed for a season high 96 yards to assist the Tigers to post the most points scored on an Alabama defense under Nick Saban.

“Joe has a really good handle on what they’re trying to do,” Alabama coach Nick Saban said. “They have no weaknesses on offense. It’s nothing like what they tried to do a year ago, they do a really good job executing.”

The Crimson Tide were able to sack Burrow five times and forced seven hurries, however, the defensive front left gaping holes up the middle which Burrow capitalized on. The top three leading tacklers for Alabama were all defensive backs in Xavier McKinney (13), Jared Mayden (11) and Trevon Diggs (10) as the ball was in the defensive backfield countless times in the game.

First loss in front of a sitting president

The 46-41 loss to the second-ranked LSU Tigers marked the first time the Alabama Crimson Tide had lost a game in front of a sitting president.

Prior to Saturday’s results, Alabama had beaten Oklahoma 17-0 in 1963 in front of President Kennedy and Georgia 26-23 in 2018 in front of President Trump.

President Trump arrived at Bryant-Denny Stadium a few minutes before kickoff and stayed most of the game.

 

[shipley00]

Here’s my problem with their “logic”... One the referee Never mentioned it, not once. It wasn’t until they were grilled on that they put that excuse forth. Second, if he was “forced” out of bounds while the ball was in the air, why didn’t they throw a flag for pass interference?

On a separate not CBSs rule “expert” sucks as bad as SEC offficials. I was screaming at the tv that he was out of bounds 20 sec before good ole Gary brought it up... “Oh... that’s a good point Gary..” You’re only job is to be a rules expert...

 

[mando]

Bad call period!!!!

 

[#80]

The excuse of him being forced out was pathetic.

 

[bamachine]

It was a bad call but it did not decide the game. that terrible first half and their inability to shut LSU down when they decided they needed to score, that is what doomed them.

 

[JoshB]

Here’s my problem with their “logic”... One the referee Never mentioned it, not once. It wasn’t until they were grilled on that they put that excuse forth. Second, if he was “forced” out of bounds while the ball was in the air, why didn’t they throw a flag for pass interference?

On a separate not CBSs rule “expert” sucks as bad as SEC offficials. I was screaming at the tv that he was out of bounds 20 sec before good ole Gary brought it up... “Oh... that’s a good point Gary..” You’re only job is to be a rules expert...

100% every bit of this. Their rules "expert" had no damn clue - or at least acted like he didn't - that a receiver cant go out of bounds unforced and catch the ball. Brad Nessler had to awkwardly be like "but... but... if he stepped out of bounds on his own, that can't be complete can it?" and the guy started stammering "ye...yea... yes, you're right."

IF the call on the field was he was "forced out" then that should have been explained on the field. It wasn't because that was not the call on the field. It's bullshit and them covering their asses.

Now, granted, that play did not lose Alabama the football game. Mistakes in the first half and a defense that couldn't stop a nose bleed in the fourth quarter lost the game. It sure didn't help, though.

 

[OldPlayer]

There was no way he was forced out. He stepped out while trying to adjust to the ball. Every angle showed it.

 

[c5vetman]

my problem with it was, he NEVER re-established himself anyway. If he was pushed out, both feet never came back in to re-establish. Total BS all the way around. The ref's knew they screwed up, and then couldn't explain it, so they had to make up some BS.

 

[Tidestalker]

So I could be wrong here.... But I think it was ultimately called correctly.

-Yes he went out of bounds on his own

-But he re established himself with both feet in

-The pass was SLIGHTLY, and I mean slightly tipped by our defender before it hit the LSU receivers hands

-Dude snuck his toe down in bounds on the catch

The fact that our defender got a fingernail on it before the LSU guy caught it made it a legal catch. He wasn't the first player to touch it before coming back in bounds and establishing himself. JMO

 

[mando]

The fact that our defender got a fingernail on it...

I did not see that or hear anyone mention it...

 

[Tidestalker]

Go to :58 second mark. Diggs tips it....

 

[We All Bleed Crimson]

Typical BAD officiating when we play lsu...
Although, the unforced fumble on the opening drive and the hurried throw-interception just prior to the half were bigger issues.
Had we scored or prevented the score, respectively, the call would still have been bad, but we would have won the game.

 

[UAgrad93]

Blown call all the way around and the replay showed the ineptitude of officials. If he went out on his own or was forced out, the official standing there with his thumb up his ass should’ve dropped his cap, signaling that he had indeed stepped out. If he was forced out while the ball was in the air, the yellow hanky should’ve dropped as well, signaling DPI. Those guys get $3k a game and still blow 8-10 calls a game and they aren’t even close!! On Waddle’s punt return, I’m still amazed that 101,000+ in the stands can clearly see a face mask, yet 3 guys in stripes within 10-15 yards of the play, can’t see shit!! Now, the penalty would’ve been declined, but the fact still remains that they completely whiffed on it!!!

 

[#80]

We were beat in every phase of the game even our club footed kick missed another extra point. Officiating was terrible as usual. Time to let this shit go.

 

[planomateo]

We were beat in every phase of the game even our club footed kick missed another extra point. Officiating was terrible as usual. Time to let this shit go.

I don't agree.

We made mistakes, they didn't. We weren't able to tackle Burrow at times and he turned them into yards, lots of them.

The defense did hold them to FG's and punts...

We were not beat in every phase of the game.

Offense got off to a slow start, was this due to Tua being gimp for 3 weeks? Who knows, but a fumble, horrible punt attempt, and at least one dumbass penalty (12 men on field and landon getting too nasty).

I won't complain about the officiating.

 

[BamaFan334]

So I could be wrong here.... But I think it was ultimately called correctly.

-Yes he went out of bounds on his own

-But he re established himself with both feet in

-The pass was SLIGHTLY, and I mean slightly tipped by our defender before it hit the LSU receivers hands

-Dude snuck his toe down in bounds on the catch

The fact that our defender got a fingernail on it before the LSU guy caught it made it a legal catch. He wasn't the first player to touch it before coming back in bounds and establishing himself. JMO

I think that is in pro ball. In college you can't be the first to touch it, unless you were forced out and you re-establish. You must have eagle eyes to see that Diggs touched that ball.

 

[Tidestalker]

I think that is in pro ball. In college you can't be the first to touch it, unless you were forced out and you re-establish. You must have eagle eyes to see that Diggs touched that ball.

I'm no rules expert and it sounds like you aren't either...

But to me it's clear Diggs touched it first if you look at the video & time I posted.

If that's the case and ole boy re established himself, then I think they got it right. Now the SEC explanation was that he was forced out which is BS - But in a backwards way it appears to me it's still the right call.

 

[#80]

I don't agree.

We made mistakes, they didn't. We weren't able to tackle Burrow at times and he turned them into yards, lots of them.

The defense did hold them to FG's and punts...

We were not beat in every phase of the game.

Offense got off to a slow start, was this due to Tua being gimp for 3 weeks? Who knows, but a fumble, horrible punt attempt, and at least one dumbass penalty (12 men on field and landon getting too nasty).

I won't complain about the officiating.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I stand by mine. I hope the first drill today in practice is tackling since we did not do much during the game.

 

[mando]

I hope the first drill today in practice is tackling

Yes please. Pretty sad that we are this far into the season and are having to revert back to practicing Defense 101.

Oh yeah and at this point we are past the 24 hour rule. Time to move on ad focus on State.

 

['65 Cobra]

This is the first I've heard about a "tip." I watched the video where you reference a few times now, and I don't see a tip. I see a ball that was wobbly before it got there. Plus, there is no way to know for sure if his re-established left foot was completely in bounds because the pylon is in the way.